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There are plenty of really nice places in the US that rival the nicest places in the world. Especially if you've got a decent job.
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loquacius posted:Nope. The one an-cap I'm Facebook friends with thinks "private companies will build the roads" is an adequate answer to that question, and thinks it's dumb enough of a question that he and his friends comment "HOO BILD A ROAD" on each other's dumbass reposted links. (I blocked him from my feed a while ago, obviously.) Well there is this piece of poo poo from Walter Block. Its 400 pages long, and it pretty much starts with "We'll sell off all of the roads to private buisnesses. The Free Market will (for some reason) force them to include rules that will prevent encircling (because if you trap someone you could extort the poo poo out of them) and then a whole bunch of other really stupid poo poo. He actually brings up a lot of salient points as to why it wouldn't work, but then really falls down on rebutting them in any meaningful manner, which is not surprising. And of course the entire thing is predicated on the idea that private business gets to buy already existing and established infrastructure. So while they maintain the roads it was still in fact government who built the roads.
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hangedman1984 posted:Is it? I mean moving within the country isn't cheap, and when your rear end is broke that makes it really hard. Not even trying to factor in any sort of immigration process which, while most likely not a giant mess as much as the US's, would stil have quite a few hoops to jump through for any sort of country worth moving to. I moved to another country with no savings. My wife and I live extremely comfortably with less than $1,000 / month. There are no guns here, no TEA party, no police brutality, my diet is much better, healthcare is extremely cheap, and gasoline is $1 / gallon (although I don't drive because public transportation is very good/ cheap).
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May 1, 2014 03:19
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Leaving the country is giving up. I'm not leaving until it's fixed. 
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May 1, 2014 03:25
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The caveat is that it's easy to migrate if you're a college educated professional, the demographic least likely to want to move abroad.
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May 1, 2014 03:26
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:I moved to another country with no savings. My wife and I live extremely comfortably with less than $1,000 / month. There are no guns here, no TEA party, no police brutality, my diet is much better, healthcare is extremely cheap, and gasoline is $1 / gallon (although I don't drive because public transportation is very good/ cheap). Where do you live, do they use Nuclear power or have any demand for Nuclear Engineers?
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May 1, 2014 03:29
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I've always been intrigued by expats or would-be expats (or those who expatriate because of their feelings about the country's future), especially given how feelings about the future break down on racial lines, with white people feeling more pessimistic about the future and black and Hispanic people feeling more optimistic.
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May 1, 2014 03:38
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Magres posted:Where do you live, do they use Nuclear power or have any demand for Nuclear Engineers? Based on cost of living, gun laws, and gasoline subsidy I would guess Venezuela. Not sure about the healthcare but their bizarro Tea Party runs the government.
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May 1, 2014 03:41
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You can be an expat and come back to America. It's not 1750, you don't have to write off your birth country, even if you are a rich white male. Do you have a liberal arts BA? Congrats, now you have a ticket to escape the hellhole of modern America by teaching English. China is definitely hiring.
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May 1, 2014 03:41
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If it's worth anything, I'm a minority that is pretty pessimistic, although I wonder how those results would go if they accounted for generational differences as well.
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May 1, 2014 03:42
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It'd make more sense to look at expats through the lens of class rather than race since minorities are a blip among expats in developed countries.
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May 1, 2014 03:43
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Old James posted:Based on cost of living, gun laws, and gasoline subsidy I would guess Venezuela. Not sure about the healthcare but their bizarro Tea Party runs the government. No, Venezuela's fuel subsidies are so high that it's around 6 US cents a gallon - a government policy that's been in place since the 1960s too.
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May 1, 2014 03:44
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Old James posted:Based on cost of living, gun laws, and gasoline subsidy I would guess Venezuela. Not sure about the healthcare but their bizarro Tea Party runs the government. Are you kidding me? That place is a shithole. I live in Ecuador 
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May 1, 2014 03:44
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Eh the whole world's hosed one way or another soon and I'm living in a relatively earthquake free zone next to the world's largest body of fresh water, which means I get to be drafted and fight Canadians (or possibly rebellious Wisconsinites) in the upcoming water wars. Which hey, free meals! Also all of my family and friends live here. So maybe if they all died I'd move.
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The Warszawa posted:I've always been intrigued by expats or would-be expats (or those who expatriate because of their feelings about the country's future), especially given how feelings about the future break down on racial lines, with white people feeling more pessimistic about the future and black and Hispanic people feeling more optimistic. 
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Last Buffalo posted:You can be an expat and come back to America. It's not 1750, you don't have to write off your birth country, even if you are a rich white male. Yup. I'm gonna let the US fester for a bit, let the second civil war come to an end, watch as the oppressive (white) rich people get eaten, wait 10 or so years, and come back to live in a socialist utopia.
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Magres posted:Where do you live, do they use Nuclear power or have any demand for Nuclear Engineers? No, but a lot of our power comes from hydro. Back in the day rolling black outs were somewhat common but now there's enough power for everyone. My city is building a rail-transit system too. The city I live in has been voted the #1 place for Americans to come retire.
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May 1, 2014 03:48
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shrike82 posted:It'd make more sense to look at expats through the lens of class rather than race since minorities are a blip among expats in developed countries. I'm not sure it makes sense to look at expats at all without a breakdown of expats who leave because of political pessimism or job prospects or lifestyle or whatever, but it's hard to escape the image of the moving-to-Canada/Sweden/Eurtopia expat (which may or may not be significant) when thinking about political pessimism/optimism.
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May 1, 2014 03:56
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Benagain posted:Eh the whole world's hosed one way or another soon and I'm living in a relatively earthquake free zone next to the world's largest body of fresh water, which means I get to be drafted and fight Canadians (or possibly rebellious Wisconsinites) in the upcoming water wars. Which hey, free meals! I live in one of the most geographically unstable areas on the planet where access to fresh water is a huge issue to anyone not completely loving idiotic. I'm banking on the sweet sweet embrace of sinking into arizona bay in the future. poo poo, I'm like a liberal version of one of those rapture assholes aren't I? 
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Fried Chicken posted:So I didn't see this coming at all, but the Senate is set to vote on an amendment to reverse the citizens united ruling later this year And in a 5-4 ruling, the SCOTUS tells Congress to get hosed and that this is still unconstitutional. Just kidding. This is going to die in the senate to a filibusterer so that the House doesn't have to deal with it. Last Buffalo posted:You can be an expat and come back to America. It's not 1750, you don't have to write off your birth country, even if you are a rich white male. There are very few people I know living in China who would suggest moving there unless you have rather specific tastes or like the culture. Or like wearing a mask outside because you just moved to a major city with apocalyptic-level air pollution.
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May 1, 2014 05:35
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The Warszawa posted:especially given how feelings about the future break down on racial lines, with white people feeling more pessimistic about the future and black and Hispanic people feeling more optimistic. That's really interesting and not something I would've expected to see at all. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Evil Fluffy posted:And in a 5-4 ruling, the SCOTUS tells Congress to get hosed and that this is still unconstitutional. An amendment isn't harmed by a filibuster because it needs 67 votes to pass regardless.
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May 1, 2014 05:38
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eviltastic posted:That's really interesting and not something I would've expected to see at all. Thanks for pointing it out. Historically, it's been the opposite - it's pretty recent (2007/08) that it's switched over.
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Evil Fluffy posted:And in a 5-4 ruling, the SCOTUS tells Congress to get hosed and that this is still unconstitutional. Seriously. Go. Google Beijing air quality. The pictures you see are real. And common.
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May 1, 2014 05:39
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Evil Fluffy posted:And in a 5-4 ruling, the SCOTUS tells Congress to get hosed and that this is still unconstitutional. I don't think even this court would rule a Constitutional amendment unconstitutional, though as you note this is not making it through the Senate anyway.
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May 1, 2014 05:41
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If the Supreme Court explicitly ignored a constitutional amendment passed as a direct reaction to their case, then that's a constitutional crisis resolvable more or less only by impeaching them. They wouldn't be that dumb.
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The Warszawa posted:I've always been intrigued by expats or would-be expats (or those who expatriate because of their feelings about the country's future), especially given how feelings about the future break down on racial lines, with white people feeling more pessimistic about the future and black and Hispanic people feeling more optimistic. Looking at it, I don't see if the study asked why in particular those polled felt more or less optimistic about the countries future, a bit disappointing. I know I'd be less pessimistic if the reason white people are pessimistic is legit dissatisfaction with the right wing elements of society, and not you know, the likely more depressing truth that minorities and "commifascists" scare them Evil Fluffy posted:And in a 5-4 ruling, the SCOTUS tells Congress to get hosed and that this is still unconstitutional. Even if defeated, it's something to campaign on and it gives me hope that left wing populism is being entertained visibly.
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May 1, 2014 05:48
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:An amendment isn't harmed by a filibuster because it needs 67 votes to pass regardless. Not to mention the 38 States to ratify it.
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McAlister posted:Seriously. Go. Google Beijing air quality. The pictures you see are real. And common. There are tons of small and mid sized towns that are well developed and pleasant places to live that don't suffer from comic levels of pollution. You still shouldn't drink their water.
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May 1, 2014 05:54
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FaustianQ posted:Even if defeated, it's something to campaign on and it gives me hope that left wing populism is being entertained visibly. "Left wing populism" had a different viewpoint when Nixon was using FECA to silence his critics. United States v. National Committee for Impeachment, 469 F.2d 1135 (1972), American Civil Liberties Union, Inc. v. Jennings, 366 F. Supp. 1041 (1973)
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Install Windows posted:Not to mention the 38 States to ratify it.
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May 1, 2014 06:01
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JT Jag posted:Technically speaking if two thirds of both houses or two thirds of a national convention vote for an amendment, then the input of the states is not constitutionally required, though amendments have been ratified by the states in all but one case in US history. There is no end-run around ratification. You can end-run around the legislatures (except for in New Mexico), but you can't bypass the states giving their input. The two-thirds is only to submit it to the states for ratification in the first place.
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Benagain posted:Eh the whole world's hosed one way or another soon and I'm living in a relatively earthquake free zone next to the world's largest body of fresh water, which means I get to be drafted and fight Canadians (or possibly rebellious Wisconsinites) in the upcoming water wars. Which hey, free meals! Do you live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan? As a local of the UP, I feel compelled to ask. Unless you're from some other part of the world that could get roped into a war with Wisconsin and/or Canada, which seems to be a very limited amount of places.
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Putin It In Mah rear end posted:Put it this way: if the economy's performance was already known but the Fed's measures were not, then the former was already priced in, while the latter only just became so. Overall GDP was lower than expectations. Weak exports and bad weather were priced in somewhat, but even to the extent that both were worse than expected they are considered temporary drags. The FED was expected to continue the taper of QE, which is a vote of confidence in the recovery. If the FED had reacted to the Q1 report by changing course that would have indicated loss of confidence in the recovery and would possibly have led to a stock market correction. It is the fact that the FED did not react despite a bad report that gave the markets confidence--in the short term at least. It should be noted that there was never a chance that the FED would change course--the FOMC statement contemporaneous with a quarterly report will never change an expected forward guidance path as that would cause volatility for no reason. You would have to be observing events on the level of another GFC for that to happen.
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cucka posted:Do you live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan? As a local of the UP, I feel compelled to ask. Unless you're from some other part of the world that could get roped into a war with Wisconsin and/or Canada, which seems to be a very limited amount of places. The best thing about the UP is the term "Yooper".
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May 1, 2014 07:14
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So DnD doesn't appear to have a labor day thread, any big stuff happening today?
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effectual posted:So DnD doesn't appear to have a labor day thread, any big stuff happening today? 
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loquacius posted:Nope. The one an-cap I'm Facebook friends with thinks "private companies will build the roads" is an adequate answer to that question, and thinks it's dumb enough of a question that he and his friends comment "HOO BILD A ROAD" on each other's dumbass reposted links. (I blocked him from my feed a while ago, obviously.) I live in an actual business libertopia (funny how it's a third world country) and the only private road we got was built from the airport to where all the westerners being rotated in and out on business contracts stay. It's a very nice toll road typically littered with dead bodies and hideous crashes because Indians like to get drunk and never really go as fast as they can on interstates. These private roads are all over the country connecting various destinations. Sadly there are no traffic laws and no real way for police to stop people to check for license, insurance, sobriety, etc. You can't use the roads during the night, because they're typically filled with drunk truck drives going the wrong way. The closets thing you have to a police check point in the city is a cop running out to stop a scooter, and throwing a stick if they try to drive off. If you want to ever counter someone with the private companies to build roads thing, just ask them a series of simple questions: -who trains the drivers. the state? -who pays the police officers? -who pays for the courts to make breaking laws mean something? -who cleans up the wrecks? Also if anyone wants to bail, it's really easy to get to India. Like, really easy. 168 dollars for a visa and 700 dollars for the ticket. And you will get a job immediately.
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Caros posted:Well there is this piece of poo poo from Walter Block. Walter Block is also pro-choice..... because he believes mothers have the right to evict their "tenants".
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I wouldn't really call India a libertopia. If anything, it trends the opposite end with too much government intervention.
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