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Asehujiko posted:Which NPC's need to be summoned a certain number of times for a sidequest and which ones are just there to supplement sunbro numbers? Lucatiel and Benhart both need to be summoned (and survive) 3 times. They're available for 4 different fights, but if you're desperate you can double up using ascetics.
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If you forget it's no big deal, though. The rewards aren't that great.
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May 1, 2014 16:24
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Cardiovorax posted:You've been saying nothing except "lol l2p scrubs Its not "cribbed", they put the lava area right after the poison area on purpose. Its supposed to remind you have Dark Souls because one of the themes of the game is about how memories influence our perception. They are deliberately trying to remind you of stuff from Dark Souls and Demon's Souls. But yes the transition is atrociously bad and makes zero sense. It feels like they had a bunch of people design these awesome areas then at the last moment had a group of interns create some things to piece them together. How do we get from poison land to lava land? Uhhhhhh gently caress I dunno just put in an elevator or something. While the game is already plenty long enough, they really should of put in a few more short transition areas to avoid this problem. Cardiovorax posted:The Bed of Chaos was a pretty cool and unique boss, though. You're insane. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 16:28 on May 1, 2014 |
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May 1, 2014 16:25
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" for pages now. We get it, you're awesome and anyone who has any criticism about the level design just sucks at it. Now go back to gamefaqs.
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Maxmaps posted:Kinda amazing how prevalent messages that say 'tongue but hole' next to female NPCs have become. I wish you could downvote messages as well as rating them up.
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May 1, 2014 16:26
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Internet Kraken posted:Its not "cribbed", they put the lava area right after the poison area on purpose. Its supposed to remind you have Dark Souls because one of the themes of the game is about how memories influence our perception. They are deliberately trying to remind you of stuff from Dark Souls and Demon's Souls. It's a volcano!! Everyone please meditate on this for awhile and you too will realize that it is obviously a volcano
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May 1, 2014 16:27
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I haven't played for a couple weeks, what is the current FOTM in regards to pvp on PC? When I stopped it was the chaos blade, avelyn, and dark fog.
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May 1, 2014 16:27
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Cardiovorax posted:If you forget it's no big deal, though. The rewards aren't that great. You do get an achievement for completing their quests though if that's your thing.
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May 1, 2014 16:28
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Zaphod42 posted:Although I think part of why those messages, as well as the "keep going, skeleton!" messages get upvoted so much is since Dark Souls is so stressful and bleak, its nice to have some comedic relief once in awhile. There's so many of these "nice job, skeleton!" messages that I really wonder if it's some sort of meme that I missed out or if it's just folks naturally doing it.
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Maxmaps posted:Kinda amazing how prevalent messages that say 'tongue but hole' next to female NPCs have become. RIP Sticky white stuff.
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Zaphod42 posted:^^^ I really like the Lost Bastille? Burning an effigy only applies to the area connected to that particular bonfire. So if you want to opt out of PvP completely that way you're probably going to run out of effigies really quick.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:I wish you could downvote messages as well as rating them up. Yeah its kinda frustrating. Whenever I see really stupid "secret door ahead" where there isn't one, I wish I could downvote it to keep the newbies from getting confused. Lazy trolling. You could in DS1, but they got rid of it which seems odd. It kinda works that you can upvote but not downvote and you can just check how many upvotes messages have to determine their authenticity, but sometimes you upvote a bad one by mistake and that requires lots of people to upvote good messages. Lots of time you just have a bunch of messages with 2-5 upvotes and its not clear which are bs and which are sincere. Varinn posted:It's a volcano!! First of all shut the gently caress up, nobody cares you've already said this, stop re-iterating your stupid whiney feelings. Second that doesn't work, when you're inside Iron Keep you can see the architecture clearly standing over any edges, but you can't see anything remotely like the Iron Keep architecture from Harvest Valley. Its very obvious to anybody who isn't a loving shithead like you that they cut an area that was supposed to be between them. Is that the end of the world? NO. The game's still loving awesome. But it does suck and it stands out compared to the rest of the world design. NOW MOVE THE gently caress ON. 
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Internet Kraken posted:Its not "cribbed", they put the lava area right after the poison area on purpose. Its supposed to remind you have Dark Souls because one of the themes of the game is about how memories influence our perception. They are deliberately trying to remind you of stuff from Dark Souls and Demon's Souls. Internet Kraken posted:You're insane. Cardiovorax fucked around with this message at 16:32 on May 1, 2014 |
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May 1, 2014 16:29
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I talked to this NPC named Pate and he gave me all his items, why? Did I do something for him before and forgot?
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Reason posted:I talked to this NPC named Pate and he gave me all his items, why? Did I do something for him before and forgot? ooooooooohhhhh. which area are you in?
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May 1, 2014 16:31
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Reason posted:I talked to this NPC named Pate and he gave me all his items, why? Did I do something for him before and forgot? You summoned him to help during Last Giant fight.
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May 1, 2014 16:31
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Huntsman Copse was a neat area because the world needs more Castlevania looking things.
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May 1, 2014 16:32
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Yodzilla posted:Huntsman Copse was a neat area because the world needs more Castlevania looking things. You're gonna love Drangleic Castle I wish it was longer, that area rules.
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May 1, 2014 16:33
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Cardiovorax posted:If you forget it's no big deal, though. The rewards aren't that great. Lucatiel's hat is "no big deal"?!
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May 1, 2014 16:33
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I killed a snake woman living at the top of an, uhh, stone age poison factory? And now I took a long elevator up into a lava church
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May 1, 2014 16:33
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Al-Saqr posted:ooooooooohhhhh. which area are you in? Whatever that area is after earthen peak where you burn the windmill
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May 1, 2014 16:34
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Asehujiko posted:I killed a snake woman living at the top of an, uhh, stone age poison factory? And now I took a long elevator up into a lava church Yep, that's what we've been bitching about for the past dozen pages  Both of those areas are amazing, and really well designed, but its painfully obvious they cut an area between them. If only they'd just made it a door and a short hallway or a cave, then it would at least sorta make sense even if the relative distances weren't accurate like Dark Souls 1. I'm okay with that, like Majula -> Heide's being further than you run, no problem there. But you go up. It just doesn't make sense. Oh well. Reason posted:Whatever that area is after earthen peak where you burn the windmill You're in Earthen Peak. Pate gave you his things because you summoned him for The Last Giant fight. I already said this 
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Reason posted:I talked to this NPC named Pate and he gave me all his items, why? Did I do something for him before and forgot? I'm getting the feeling you smacked a npc around at some point. Did you?
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May 1, 2014 16:36
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It took a few days for people to reach that area but there are now a bunch upvoted jokes related to heads in front of the Baleful Queen boss door. Community did not disappoint. "Head Ahead" VVV Drangleic Castle is fantastic and I don't get why people expect it to have a bunch of interior decoration like Anor Londo. Unlike Anord Londo, nobody is trying to maintain the illusion that Drangleic Castle is still in its glory age. Its been fully converted into an ebony fortress of death, and as such all the decorations have been stripped away over time. Aside from one, because its cursed! Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 16:40 on May 1, 2014 |
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May 1, 2014 16:36
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Zaphod42 posted:You're gonna love Drangleic Castle I thought Drangleic Castle was okay with a few neat areas but yeah it was too short for such a massive place and it looks like loving garbage inside.
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Mindblast posted:I'm getting the feeling you smacked a npc around at some point. Did you? Wrong answer. I already gave the right answer twice though.  That part comes later! Sssh he hasn't done that yet.
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NihilVerumNisiMors posted:The whole path to the Iron King is just one big meta-commentary on the appalling effects of the exploitation of labor by the bourgeoisie and we plebians are just too dumb to realize it. Let me put it into simple words that explains why you two are getting shouted down, all right? This isn't level design. This is world design. They are two different things. Level design is the mechanical structure of the game in regards to how the game plays, where items are located, traps, and enemy encounters are. World design is the aesthetics and relation each level has in relation to one another. This game's general focus (where it fails occasionally, as well,) is complex encounter setpieces where a large number of enemies are placed with regard to the level architecture to make things easier or harder on you. There are a lot of really good encounters (a level design concept) in this game, where encountering nine royal swordsmen is totally possible because of the level geometry you can take advantage of. They're never able to surround you. (There are exceptions, like the ruin sentinel/stone knight death room in Drangleic Castle. That's just a big square room with a tight leash point for them. That's bad level design, because it's uninteresting.) The reason why most people disagree with you is because you're saying the wrong thing. Most people would agree that this game has really good level design, but some of those same people would probably agree that the game's world design is lacking. The rest, including myself, don't really care because the world design is completely secondary.
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Zaphod42 posted:
Of course you can't see it from harvest valley, it's in the CRATER of the VOLCANO the real question is: who really sank iron keep into that volcano?? flame can't melt steel at those temperatures?? thermite in the keep? Google loose change
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May 1, 2014 16:48
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Zaphod42 posted:You summoned him to help during Last Giant fight. Either my game glitched or that's not the trigger because he gave me all his stuff and I never summoned him for anything. I just talked to him everywhere I found him.
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May 1, 2014 16:49
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Kimmalah posted:Either my game glitched or that's not the trigger because he gave me all his stuff and I never summoned him for anything. I just talked to him everywhere I found him.
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Varinn posted:Of course you can't see it from harvest valley, it's in the CRATER of the VOLCANO Except like I already loving said when you're in Iron Keep the tops of the architecture clearly stand above anything else, you're not sunken down into some crater. You would be able to loving see a crater. Shut up, ugh. Kimmalah posted:Either my game glitched or that's not the trigger because he gave me all his stuff and I never summoned him for anything. I just talked to him everywhere I found him. OR there's more than one way to get his stuff? Which is how it works?  You can get it at earthen peak or later in brightstone cove. You have to summon him for last giant for him to give it to you in earthen peak. You have to talk to him everywhere and kill creighton to get it in tseldora, or you can kill pate at pretty much any point and buy it from a merchant. But then you don't get his ring. Cardiovorax posted:Yeah, you don't actually need to summon Pate anywhere. Talking to him in all his spots is enough. You do have to summon him to get it in Earthen Peak. That's what we were talking about, pay attention. You can get it later in the game otherwise, yes, good for you. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 17:00 on May 1, 2014 |
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I hope I didn't miss Pate and Creighton fighting. I kinda went the opposite way - so hopefully that is only triggered when you go in the door.
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Vintersorg posted:I hope I didn't miss Pate and Creighton fighting. I kinda went the opposite way - so hopefully that is only triggered when you go in the door. I think its triggered when you get near. Its definitely possible for One of them to kill the other without your help, in which case you won't get as many rewards
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So is like the Covetous Demon fight a joke fight? All I had to do was run around it plinking arrows at him every time he took a very dodgeable swing at me.
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Maxmaps posted:So is like the Covetous Demon fight a joke fight? All I had to do was run around it plinking arrows at him every time he took a very dodgeable swing at me. From what I've heard, his only really dangerous move is eating you and taking all your armor and stuff. But I never saw it in the short time it took to kill him. 
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You mean you didn't see him start violently flopping around like a bus-sized salmon on dry land?
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Maxmaps posted:So is like the Covetous Demon fight a joke fight? All I had to do was run around it plinking arrows at him every time he took a very dodgeable swing at me. It becomes a lot less funny if you get caught by the grab attack that unequips all of your equipment though it's just about impossible to get caught by it if you're any good.
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I didn't know about it and tried to block it. Ended up still killing him naked with firebombs (always have firebombs).
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Vanderdeath posted:I'm almost SL100 and I still only have one Great Soul. One thing I love about this game over Dark Souls 1 is just how much better Steam is at connecting people then Windows Live. I had very few sunbro moments in DS1 because the summoning would often fail, and PvP was a complete no-show, even after I got good enough to stay human for long periods. DS2, I don't think I've soloed a single boss so far because phantoms only fail if someone beats me to the sign and there's always more signs (except the Royal Rat Vanguard, since you can't drop a sign in that area it seems). That said, didn't DS1 switch to Steamworks after GFWL's much deserved death? Hmmmm....
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Maxmaps posted:So is like the Covetous Demon fight a joke fight? All I had to do was run around it plinking arrows at him every time he took a very dodgeable swing at me. He's a giant goon and I don't think he's supposed to be very hard. For me the only difficulty in the fight comes from him being so horrible to look at. His actual attacks all hit hard but they are telegraphed heavily and super slow. Dodging them is easy and even if he does manage to hit you, he's such a sloth that you can easily heal before he can hit you again. Despite this, I regularly see people die to him while sunbroing, usually because they don't respect his roll. His roll hurts a ton and can be somewhat tricky to dodge. If you get hit by it, get the gently caress away and heal. Don't keep attacking him because he's just gonna turn again and crush you beneath his wrinkly girth. Perfectly logical.
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