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zoux posted:It's best that we all just come to terms with Laurel learning crime fighting ways. It might not happen, but we should prepare ourselves nonetheless. I'm hoping that next season Queen Consolidated is gone, and Thea starts like, The Queen Foundation with Walter's money, run by Laurel. Then that line about the addiction storyline being her island makes sense, and it gives her a defined role in the show.
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ayb posted:can someone link this I edited it, but you get the gist from the edit 
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May 1, 2014 22:13
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Warmachine posted:I'm chalking that up to the lines. Maybe, MAYBE Patrick Stewart could have saved those lines. Those were terrible lines. Yeah as easy as it is to blame Laurel's problems on Katie Cassidy that was a prime example of the terrible dialogue she's saddled with regularly. She's written like a 14 year old more often than she's written like a lawyer.
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May 1, 2014 22:55
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In my opinion the whole knowing the arrows identity is kind of wasted by the fact that she's probably just going to be another drat cheerleader for Oliver. One of the things that I liked about Tommy finding out about Ollie secret Identity was Tommy calling him out over a lot of his bullshit. Then they killed him off solely for dramatic purposes at the end of the first season and Laurel mentally regressed to a fourteen year old girl so she'd have something to do.
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May 2, 2014 01:05
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Why is Thea such a hateful bitch, seriously? Nobody on earth is that much of a hateful bitch "I hate Oliver for being stuck on an Island for 5 years". "Now I hate my dad for dying". "Now I hate my mom for lying" "Now I hate my brother for also lying". "Now I hate my brother because my mom died"... You'd think she'd give the hating everybody a rest for a minute once Moira died and she even admits "she died thinking I hated her". But no, she goes right into hating Oliver again. It's seriously annoying, she acts like a 5 year old You would think that with Thea constantly deciding she hates her family, they would have gotten used to it and stopped caring, growing up with her. "Oh, Thea hates me again, it must be Tuesday"
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May 2, 2014 03:58
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Thea was cool for pretty much a whole season. She got over being pissy at Ollie and her dad towards the middle/end of last season and only started freaking out this season when she found out just about everyone knew she was the daughter of a mass murdering psychopath and lied about it to her. Now her mom is dead as a direct consequence of poo poo that Ollie did and lied about. Seriously, she deserves some slack.
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May 2, 2014 04:01
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DrunkPanda posted:Why is Thea such a hateful bitch, seriously? Nobody on earth is that much of a hateful bitch "I hate Oliver for being stuck on an Island for 5 years". "Now I hate my dad for dying". "Now I hate my mom for lying" "Now I hate my brother for also lying". "Now I hate my brother because my mom died"... ..But she did. Maybe you do need a second watch.
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Her entire loving family has completely fallen apart like three separate times, and her boyfriend broke up with her and then randomly turned out to be a crazy hulk psycho. I think she gets a pass on the whole being dramatic thing and not trusting anyone. Honestly Thea just getting tired of everyone's poo poo and telling them all to gently caress off has been one of my favorite parts of this season. I still think her relationship with Roy was a bit too soap opera-ish (mostly last season), but her being annoyed/mad at everyone is perfectly valid. It's not like when Laurel just got drunk and was a huge bitch to everyone around her (which was pretty awesome), Thea's got some pretty serious beef with basically everyone in her life.
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Awesome episode! Is it me or did Isabel's headgear make her look loving retarded?
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I still can't believe the show has the balls to hit us with SEVEN cliffhangers in one episode. (Ollie and Laurel and super dudes buried under rocks! Diggle confronted by Super Summer Glau! Felicity gets a phone call probably about the cure! Super Dude at the police station with Lance! Super Dude at the train station with Thea! Super dudes marching on the city! Bonus flashback cliffhanger: what's happening with the submarine and where is Sarah?) I've been catching up on Agents of SHIELD lately and it's even improved some...But despite having a lower budget, Arrow makes it look like a student film. DrunkPanda posted:Why is Thea such a hateful bitch, seriously? Nobody on earth is that much of a hateful bitch "I hate Oliver for being stuck on an Island for 5 years". "Now I hate my dad for dying". "Now I hate my mom for lying" "Now I hate my brother for also lying". "Now I hate my brother because my mom died"... When Ollie says his little goodbye speech to her and encourages her to leave town, I got the impression she wasn't hateful, she just had no idea what to think anymore. Everything has just gotten so crazy. Feenix posted:Awesome episode! Is it me or did Isabel's headgear make her look loving retarded?
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May 2, 2014 05:18
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The mask looks weird because it kind of bulges out and makes her head look like a big bubble. All I can see is the helmet all the Assholes in Spaceballs wear.
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May 2, 2014 05:41
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One thing that bothers me about this episode: Did the Japanese actually have torpedoes that required a pilot inside them? It just seems kind of stupid to me.
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DrunkPanda posted:Why is Thea such a hateful bitch, seriously? Nobody on earth is that much of a hateful bitch "I hate Oliver for being stuck on an Island for 5 years". "Now I hate my dad for dying". "Now I hate my mom for lying" "Now I hate my brother for also lying". "Now I hate my brother because my mom died"... Ollie did kind of gently caress up the family company which directly led to her club being closed. David D. Davidson posted:One thing that bothers me about this episode: Did the Japanese actually have torpedoes that required a pilot inside them? It just seems kind of stupid to me. The Japanese had flying bombs that were piloted by people. A torpedo is not out of the realm of possibility.
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May 2, 2014 06:07
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They were real http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiten
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Pierce and Pierce posted:They were real WW2-era Japan must have been a crazy loving place.
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raditts posted:WW2-era Japan must have been a crazy loving place. Well, it kinda was.
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The Libearian posted:I'm kinda sad that mice priest's entire character arc was chill with some mice, give some advice, get shot out of a torpedo bay. That was the same guy? Did they recast him or am I just dumb for not recognizing him?
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May 2, 2014 07:00
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Kruller posted:The mask looks weird because it kind of bulges out and makes her head look like a big bubble. All I can see is the helmet all the Assholes in Spaceballs wear. When you put it like that, it's not half as bad.
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May 2, 2014 07:07
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Bad Moon posted:Ollie did kind of gently caress up the family company which directly led to her club being closed. Thea did kind of gently caress up the club by not signing those papers so they would have some money. Who did she think owned the club?
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I'm just going to assume people saying "Thea is such a bitch!" are troll posting. Everyone in the Queen family has moments of awfulness, but Oliver has long done way, way shittier things. He left her alone for several days to deal with burying their mother. I was completely expecting some badass reveal that Oliver was off training or gathering a team to take down Slade - but nope, he's just been emotionally crippled and has literally given up the fight.
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May 2, 2014 08:53
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Narcissus1916 posted:I'm just going to assume people saying "Thea is such a bitch!" are troll posting. Everyone in the Queen family has moments of awfulness, but Oliver has long done way, way shittier things. In a way I'm kinda glad about that. We've got enough stories about emotionally stale super-men. Sure, sometimes people get toughened against trauma, but a lot of time you get the exact opposite reaction. It traumatizes them and they get even more sensitive. It's totally realistic that Ollie would go all PTSD as a result of Slade carefully re-enacting the worst things that have ever happened to him.
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Narcissus1916 posted:I'm just going to assume people saying "Thea is such a bitch!" are troll posting. Everyone in the Queen family has moments of awfulness, but Oliver has long done way, way shittier things. This whole season has been about how Oliver's lies have been ruining the lives of everybody around him. I'm not surprised at all that Thea is mad at him for not mentioning that the man they were happily showing around the house - Slade Wilson - is a murderous psychopath. It's pretty easy to go down the whole "maybe if you said something Mom would still be alive" route.
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Epi Lepi posted:That was the same guy? Did they recast him or am I just dumb for not recognizing him? Turns out i'm full of poo poo! The priest was called Thomas and that guy was called Peter. I just assumed he was supposed to be the only previously named prisoner other than Anatoly and Henrick.
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Bad Moon posted:Ollie did kind of gently caress up the family company which directly led to her club being closed. Actually Thea's the one that directly led to her club being closed. She was the one that was all "screw you guys, I got mine" when Ollie and Moira were trying to get her to sign that document that would allow them to protect their assets. Because for some reason she thought her club would be safe, just Ollie and Moira would lose everything (which is my biggest beef with her)
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Narcissus1916 posted:I'm just going to assume people saying "Thea is such a bitch!" are troll posting. Everyone in the Queen family has moments of awfulness, but Oliver has long done way, way shittier things. Haha never underestimate people's ability to completely misjudge and miss the point of character's actions, especially when they get to pass moral judgement on that character (and the character is a woman  )
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Thea signing those papers wouldn't have kept the club. The club was owned by Queen Consolidated, not by some special class of Queen Consolidated shares. She won't lose the club though. Isabel will die, and Oliver or Walter will become CEO, or Thea for maximum CW stupidity, and the club will be just fine and everyone will be happy. Except Sara. She's dead. For sure.
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No Butt Stuff posted:Thea signing those papers wouldn't have kept the club. The club was owned by Queen Consolidated, not by some special class of Queen Consolidated shares. I dunno, I can imagine them keeping Sara alive (due to the fan love for her), but having to leave for a time, and asking Laurel to take up her mantle so that Canary can stay even if she can't.
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zoux posted:Haha never underestimate people's ability to completely misjudge and miss the point of character's actions, especially when they get to pass moral judgement on that character (and the character is a woman I don't blame her character motivations because she's been poo poo on by the other characters in one way or another all season, but her being the Always Mad character does get a bit tiring. Especially considering this show usually breezes past high-drama threads rather than drawing them out. Seriously though, Ollie needs to hurry up and tell her the truth about everything already, for gently caress's sake. This last episode is like what, the 3rd, 4th time she's been in a dangerous situation because she doesn't know her brother is a goddamned superhero (and is literally the last one to not know)?
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BreakAtmo posted:I dunno, I can imagine them keeping Sara alive (due to the fan love for her), but having to leave for a time, and asking Laurel to take up her mantle so that Canary can stay even if she can't. A death is really the only strong enough motivation for Laurel to go vigilante. She believes in the law, even though we've seen her faith in it start to dip. I suppose a member of the mayor's army killing her father could work though. Plus if she's going to call herself Black Canary that's totally because it's the mourning color. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 15:41 on May 2, 2014 |
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Why the hell was Laurel in the facility? She's such an idiot, she's not trained, what the hell can she even do? "I'll litigate you... TO DEATH!" She's just a giant distraction. CW should kill her and keep Sara.
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Ravane posted:Why the hell was Laurel in the facility? She's such an idiot, she's not trained, what the hell can she even do? Save Oliver's life, apparently.
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Ravane posted:Why the hell was Laurel in the facility? She's such an idiot, she's not trained, what the hell can she even do? Sneak up behind a guy about to kill Oliver and hit him in the head, thus distracting him enough for Ollie to take him out? Aphrodite posted:Save Oliver's life, apparently. Yeah, this.
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BreakAtmo posted:Sneak up behind a guy about to kill Oliver and hit him in the head, thus distracting him enough for Ollie to take him out? Yeah, but that's just a giant deus ex machina. She's not capable of sneaking into the facility without getting caught. Black Canary, sure. Laurel? No. But she gets in (without being seen by Oliver's crew or the enemy), follows Oliver (without him seeing her, drat ninja skills), and then distracts the guy. I can believe the distraction, I can't believe her being there.
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It's not a facility. It's the sewers.
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Oliver and co probably weren't really trying to make sure they weren't tailed, and didn't they say out loud where they were going? All she has to do is drive and watch him as he goes in from a distance, since Felicity and Diggle were outside, not covering Oliver's entrance. So it's plausible, but it's a lot of risks working out just right for her.
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Aphrodite posted:It's not a facility. It's the sewers. Cleanest drat sewers I've ever seen. 
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When all the people that used to poo poo in them are dead because of an artificial earthquake...
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WarLocke posted:Cleanest drat sewers I've ever seen. It's a TV show. Of course it's clean. 
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Never underestimate the capacity of viewers to complain about characters when they have done literally nothing wrong in the whole episode, I guess. Didn't even Thea end up leaving on reasonably good terms with her brother? e: (Although I did get a kick out of Laurel taking the time to change out of the pantsuit she wore in the lair into some garish pink thing to start her sneaky superhero life) BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 21:15 on May 2, 2014 |
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It was a jacket.
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