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Coffee And Pie posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mydh4MEo2B0 I'll defend it on the basis that it seems to be based on a "real" event. Now, we can argue the scientific validity of it, sure. I'll hear that all day long. But, in terms of being a legitimate "Testimony" of one's faith/bringing people to believe in the existence of God? It's far more effective than "God's Not Dead". I was reading stories of people accepting Christ into their hearts because of "God's not dead", and it made me kind of...confused. A lovely movie should not bring you to christ, and if it does? I kind of question you quite a bit. At least it shows more of a "Human side" of all the characters as well.
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The "heaven" stuff makes a lot more sense in real life with the fact that the dad was a pastor. So, you know, the kid was already well immersed in religious ideas/culture.
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Holy poo poo Greg Kinnear was nominated for a loving oscar what is he doing in that?
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swampland posted:Holy poo poo Greg Kinnear was nominated for a loving oscar what is he doing in that? Eric Roberts was also nominated for an oscar, and have you seen his IMDB page lately?
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Being a gay person in As Good as it Gets claims another victim rip cuba and greg
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Corek posted:Eric Roberts was also nominated for an oscar, and have you seen his IMDB page lately? It reminds me of when goons get upset when John Rhys-Davies pops up in yet another piece of poo poo film. Other then Indiana Jones and LotR, his whole career is nothing but poo poo films.
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FuzzySkinner posted:I'll defend it on the basis that it seems to be based on a "real" event. I think most of the criticism against it is over whether it was a "real event" or a "legitimate testimony" rather than just cut from whole cloth by the kid's father. Wikipedia posted:The Berean Call criticized the book for its "extra-biblical" and "problematic" claims as well as the lack of any medical evidence that the boy was clinically dead during the surgery.[8] Susan Jacoby reviewed the book in the Washington Post, saying that the success of the book shows that "vast numbers of Americans" lack the reasoning ability of adults.[9] I remember the last time this book/movie came up someone posted a few other articles tearing it apart, too. raditts fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Mar 30, 2014 |
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I used to work at a bookstore and I don't think the original cover mentions the fact the father is/was a pastor (it may have said something in the captions to photos inside but I doubt it). Also a lot of the "rules" about the "heaven" the kid "visited" are inconsistent (his grandfather was a youthful man but his miscarried sister is a little girl). The cover and the book itself make it seem like the kid should have barely any knowledge of the stuff as if his parents were agnostic or only went to church every so often. Also Jesus wears a crown (like honest to God gold pointy thing with gems in it) and rides a rainbow horse which is just loving dumb.
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Coffee And Pie posted:
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The great thing about Heaven is for Real is that the Burpos published a book where they all but admit that they used their kid as a pawn to sell a book because they were in debt.
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Mar 30, 2014 23:36
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raditts posted:I think most of the criticism against it is over whether it was a "real event" or a "legitimate testimony" rather than just cut from whole cloth by the kid's father. I think it's naturally a human desire to believe that there is something after this all over. So it's quite easy to lie about such events, and it's an easy sell for those would could potentially be naive. The phenomenon of NDE's itself would be an intriguing documentary. I'd love to see science's take on it, along with various faith's take on it.
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I've heard, possible on these very forums, that when atheists have NDE's, they don't see any religious imagery.
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Animal-Mother posted:I've heard, possible on these very forums, that when atheists have NDE's, they don't see any religious imagery. I doubt it, at least for atheists in the West because the idea of a Christian afterlife heavily permeates modern culture and most atheists derive from Christian households. In China? Sure, I could see that. Hell, even in the US I could see Muslims or Jews having non-Christian experiences.
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hehateme posted:I wonder if Huckabee actually saw Noah before putting it in that group. My evangelical parents would hate Noah if they ever saw it. Evangelicals are bound to hate it for the story of creation scene alone, but I hope religious audiences overall aren't coming out of it feeling like they got tricked.
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ThePlague-Daemon posted:Evangelicals are bound to hate it for the story of creation scene alone, but I hope religious audiences overall aren't coming out of it feeling like they got tricked. I've already seen someone post an image macro on Facebook with a list of all the "incorrect" things in the movie, so I guess not even the disclaimer at the beginning of the movie will do anything to stifle the bitching.
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raditts posted:I've already seen someone post an image macro on Facebook with a list of all the "incorrect" things in the movie, so I guess not even the disclaimer at the beginning of the movie will do anything to stifle the bitching. Even if a film goes out of its way to establish its mythos (like say Disney's Hercules) people will bitch because it's not the "real" myth.
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I am looking forward to the zombie horror sequel Nietzsche's Not Dead.
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Just wanted to add some stuff and ask some questions..... 1) I've watched two Thief in the Night movies...they are tremendously bad with some of the most awkward dialogue ever and they are INSANELY heavy handed. 2) What did you guys think of The Last Temptation of Christ ? I remember hearing it majorly pissed some of the big evengelical people off at the time. 3) I've also heard fundies in particular apparently really dislike Veggietales because of trivialization of their or somesuch. Can anybody confirm and/or shed some light on this? 4)Are the Tyler Perry Madea movies couched in Christianity too? I can't imagine I'll ever watch them, but I know his TV shows have a lot of moral lessons too, despite being comedies. That's another thing, are there much in the way of comedies when it comes to this? Where do Lifetime movies come in on this subject? Because they seem like pretty heavy handed morality plays, as well.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:4)Are the Tyler Perry Madea movies couched in Christianity too? I can't imagine I'll ever watch them, but I know his TV shows have a lot of moral lessons too, despite being comedies. That's another thing, are there much in the way of comedies when it comes to this? Where do Lifetime movies come in on this subject? Because they seem like pretty heavy handed morality plays, as well. I think so, I caught a bit of one on TV once, all I remember is some woman had a drug problem and she was being told to accept the lord or something. It was weird.
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Evangelical Christianity is so weird. All Lutheran's get are period pieces about Martin Luther with great costumes. E: Why doesn't the "Christian" movie industry do period pieces about the various revivals and famous preachers in American Evangelical Christianity? Surely that would make for more interesting movies then the hackneyed morality plays they do. NoNotTheMindProbe fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Evangelical Christianity is so weird. All Lutheran's get are period pieces about Martin Luther with great costumes. Because most Evangelicals don't care about anything other than reinforcing their own quasi-Christian world view and beliefs and Evangelicals are the ones who buy up the millions of dollars of Christian Movie tickets just to stick it to "Hollywood."
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El Gallinero Gros posted:2) What did you guys think of The Last Temptation of Christ ? I remember hearing it majorly pissed some of the big evengelical people off at the time. I was instructed by a pastor to never, ever watch it. Years later, I checked it out and didn't find it all that interesting.
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More Christian movies should be like The Apostle. drat that film is good. Probably way too honest for megachurch-going Christians.
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precision posted:More Christian movies should be like The Apostle. drat that film is good. Probably way too honest for megachurch-going Christians. Or alternately, This Is The End, where the Christian message kinda sneaks up on you through the dick jokes.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:E: Why doesn't the "Christian" movie industry do period pieces about the various revivals and famous preachers in American Evangelical Christianity? Surely that would make for more interesting movies then the hackneyed morality plays they do. Given the production values most evangelical films have, doing anything like this would be way out of their price range. Initially, when the Godfather was being made, Paramount wanted it to take place in the 1970 so it would be cheaper for them to produce, because the moment it becomes a period piece, you have to spend a lot more money. So think about doing the story of Billy Sunday, but with a shoe-string budget. The other problem too is that a lot of these Evangelical preachers don't really have interesting stories, or at least in hands of Evangelical Christianity, can't be interesting. There could never be real conflict, and it would all be reduced down to this Mickey Mouse poo poo that they currently get. Plus, I don't know how much they actually care about what came before them. A lot of the big names in Evangelical Christianity are in it for themselves. Why would they want to prop up some other guy?
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The mormons did some pretty hilarious bad ones about the history of Joseph Smith and the other guy to play at drive-ins, I guess either to give mormons an excuse for going to drive-ins or to get some converts before Sleeping Party Massacre or Master of the Flying Guillotine starts. Some of them are included on those 100-movie dvd sets from Mill Creek. I saw them on this set with Christopher Lee as Dracula on the cover. Probably not what the mormons had in mind.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:4)Are the Tyler Perry Madea movies couched in Christianity too? I can't imagine I'll ever watch them, but I know his TV shows have a lot of moral lessons too, despite being comedies. That's another thing, are there much in the way of comedies when it comes to this? Where do Lifetime movies come in on this subject? Because they seem like pretty heavy handed morality plays, as well. The vast majority of them are basically really stupid melodrama that's made specifically for (primarily southern) black America and as it happens Christianity is kind of a big, important part of that culture. They have a lot of the major characteristics of christian movies but I'd say that in the end his movies at least are more about the melodrama with Christianity being a big theme but not the real focus.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:2) What did you guys think of The Last Temptation of Christ ? I remember hearing it majorly pissed some of the big evengelical people off at the time. As a sort-of evangelical, I think its central question about what it means to be simultaneously fully God and fully man is really interesting. As the movie goes on though, it kind of feels like Scorcese is more interested in addressing his struggles with his own sins than whatever Jesus may have faced, so I guess that's what I find kind of off-putting about it. I think the movie is a sincere expression of his struggle with his faith, it's just not very good.
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And now Answers In Genesis is coming out with their own Strawman Atheist Professor movie, starring Harry Anderson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ6bUfOVf1g
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I hope they cast Bull as the devil. He's already done the part like three times.
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I'm confused... is this movie pro-evolution or anti-evolution? Is he going to perform magic tricks? Is Harry Anderson okay? Does he need money? I can cover his dinner. Please, just no more films like this.
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Mister Mind posted:And now Answers In Genesis is coming out with their own Strawman Atheist Professor movie, starring Harry Anderson. "She's one of the cutest freshmen we've seen." What does this line have to do with anything?
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Cemetry Gator posted:I'm confused... is this movie pro-evolution or anti-evolution? Is he going to perform magic tricks? Is Harry Anderson okay? Does he need money? I can cover his dinner. Please, just no more films like this. Seems like its a response to that Bill Nye debate and other similar events. The pro-evolution professor will probably realize in the middle of the debate that the Christian guy has some good points and that his "science has all the answers" philosophy is missing something. Actually it'll probably be one magical one-liner that will bring Harry Anderson to his knees.
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Basebf555 posted:Seems like its a response to that Bill Nye debate and other similar events. The pro-evolution professor will probably realize in the middle of the debate that the Christian guy has some good points and that his "science has all the answers" philosophy is missing something. Actually it'll probably be one magical one-liner that will bring Harry Anderson to his knees. Speaking of bringing him to his knees, does anyone catch some of the things that the daughter mentions about her professor? They seem to be on the sensual side, which is unusual to me. Like those scenes are designed to raise the ire of TRUE CHRISTIAN MEN TM who have daughters. I may be the deviant but even if the movie feels like a film grad's first film, that was probably done on purpose. Conal Cochran posted:"She's one of the cutest freshmen we've seen." She's a woman, you see. That's how you measure their worth.
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Jack Gladney posted:I hope they cast Bull as the devil. He's already done the part like three times. I thought he was dead for some reason. Of course he's probably going to die soon now, since that seems to always happen within a few weeks of whenever I look up an actor and think "Huh, I didn't know he/she was still alive." Sorry guys  Mister Mind posted:And now Answers In Genesis is coming out with their own Strawman Atheist Professor movie, starring Harry Anderson. I love how the filmmakers demonstrate their utter ignorance on the subject by making Professor Atheism demonstrate an egg as a "simple lifeform" and a rubber chicken as a "complex lifeform" and suggesting that one evolves into the other. raditts fucked around with this message at 22:53 on May 2, 2014 |
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What else would you expect from the people who invented the CrocoDuck?
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I love how the poster seems to be illustrating the undeniable ancestral link between humans and apes, and that's apparently the opposite of what they meant. I have never in my life felt motivated to educate other people on something I am aware I know nothing about, I don't get why people who do not even understand the mechanisms of evolution get the idea they're going to school everybody on why it's bullshit.
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Dante Logos posted:Speaking of bringing him to his knees, does anyone catch some of the things that the daughter mentions about her professor? They seem to be on the sensual side, which is unusual to me. Like those scenes are designed to raise the ire of TRUE CHRISTIAN MEN TM who have daughters. I may be the deviant but even if the movie feels like a film grad's first film, that was probably done on purpose. Also in what universe would a teenager find Old Harry Anderson attractive? He was never particularly attractive, but he's starting to show his age. I wonder if they tricked him into appearing in the movie by saying that it would be pro-evolution and he'd be the witty, charming professor who reaches the brainwashed, exploited kid? Because in a Poe's law kind of deal he really comes off looking sane and kind and like a good influence.
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