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Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Someone who spoke with Vilerat that day should touch the poop and contact Issa.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Why yes Mr Chairman I do have a power point presentation.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Mister chairman, I understand your fascination with these burning buildings. When we lost those four people, Americans far and wide felt as though we've been robbed, like someone stole our car right off the street. I'm sure you know the feeling I am trying to describe.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

This slide shows some of the video of the aftermath of the attack, over which I have added Yakkety Sax.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
This entire thread.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Captain_Maclaine posted:

At this point, I'd be very surprised if there wasn't a move to impeach with the supposed coverup of Benghazi as justification. The results of the midterms will dictate how soon it will be, in my opinion.

It'll pass the House and fail in the Senate, then the media narrative will become "Do Republicans spend too much time trying to impeach Democratic Presidents?"

Their impotent rage over the fact that there is no "there" there on Benghazi is nothing short of hilarious. All this "special committee" is is another bullshit dickwaving party on the part of the GOP to rile up their base. They will find nothing and they will quietly conclude proceedings after the midterm elections.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Alter Ego posted:

It'll pass the House and fail in the Senate, then the media narrative will become "Do Republicans spend too much time trying to impeach Democratic Presidents?"


Ha! That will start to be the media narrative, then the GOP will bitch and moan about liberal media, and the media will apologize and cower to the corner where they point out that maybe just about everyone has done some bad stuff!

AhhYes
Dec 1, 2004

* Click *
College Slice
So I'm a little confused about what this new Benghazi email is supposed to have "revealed".

Is it really just that the White House wanted to emphasize the spontaneous video-instigated nature of the attacks? Hasn't that aspect of this been gone over thoroughly already?

tbp
Mar 1, 2008

DU WIRST NIEMALS ALLEINE MARSCHIEREN

menino posted:

Do you even care what the answer is?

Yes I'd be interested in which firms have people murdering in an extraordinarily visible and media-worthy way.

forbidden lesbian posted:

I don't have anyone on ignore, for I have the ability to scroll.

You are a strong and admirable woman, forbidden lesbian.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
All I care about is that the longer they go on about Benghazi, the larger the cost-figures available for attack ads get.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

AhhYes posted:

So I'm a little confused about what this new Benghazi email is supposed to have "revealed".
It doesn't actually matter what was in it; the fact that it exists is enough of an excuse for the right-wing media machine to go into overdrive with headlines like "NEW BENGHAZI DOCUMENTS UNEARTHED" and "MORE BENGHAZI DETAILS FOUND". Unsurprisingly, none of these headlines ever actually say what the documents contain.

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



My boss was hand-wringing about Benghazi just before the election. I remember him getting frustrated and half yelling "IT WAS A 9/11 TERROR ATTACK!" over a discussion at lunch one day when I couldn't see why it wasn't just a small-ish tragedy of just a few more pointless deaths on the other side of the world.

Today (as in about two hours ago) we were at the same restaurant and the guy my boss is in some investment club with was smirking about how a memo from the day(night?) of got released under FOIA that outlined the White House's initial messaging strategy. I guess it's scandalous that they were going with the video riot story at first? Thankfully someone changed the subject before I get annoyed enough to tell him off for giving a poo poo about this crap.

They're both 60+ white men and watch Fox news, so there's your Benghazi follower demographic.

Too Shy Guy
Jun 14, 2003


I have destroyed more of your kind than I can count.



Poor Cliven Bundy. After being harassed by federal agents working to enforce a court order, what's a sovereign citizen to do? That's right, press charges.

quote:

Surrounded by reporters and supporters, Cliven Bundy's family protested peacefully in front of the Metro Police department this morning and filed criminal complaints against the Bureau of Land Management for assault and other alleged offenses.

Ammon Bundy, Cliven's son, read from a three-page statement in front of the police station to about 20 supporters and a nearly equal number of media. He criticized Metro Police for not standing up for the family's rights in their long-running battle with the BLM over cattle grazing rights on public land.

"Our innocence has left us," Ammon Bundy said.

Last month, armed federal agents launched a cattle roundup on the Bundy ranch after the family refused to follow a court order to remove their cattle from public land and pay more than $1 million in grazing fees. Ammon Bundy was tased by federal agents during the roundup.

Cliven Bundy was not at today's protest, and none of the Bundy supporters was armed. A few Metro Police officers stood nearby to monitor the protest.

After Ammon Bundy spoke and said a prayer, he and the supporters went inside to file their criminal complaints.

tbp
Mar 1, 2008

DU WIRST NIEMALS ALLEINE MARSCHIEREN

Munkeymon posted:

My boss was hand-wringing about Benghazi just before the election. I remember him getting frustrated and half yelling "IT WAS A 9/11 TERROR ATTACK!" over a discussion at lunch one day when I couldn't see why it wasn't just a small-ish tragedy of just a few more pointless deaths on the other side of the world.

Today (as in about two hours ago) we were at the same restaurant and the guy my boss is in some investment club with was smirking about how a memo from the day(night?) of got released under FOIA that outlined the White House's initial messaging strategy. I guess it's scandalous that they were going with the video riot story at first? Thankfully someone changed the subject before I get annoyed enough to tell him off for giving a poo poo about this crap.

They're both 60+ white men and watch Fox news, so there's your Benghazi follower demographic.

Republican dads who watch Fox News are always the worst. I know what you mean.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

AhhYes posted:

So I'm a little confused about what this new Benghazi email is supposed to have "revealed".

Is it really just that the White House wanted to emphasize the spontaneous video-instigated nature of the attacks? Hasn't that aspect of this been gone over thoroughly already?

Here's a decent explanation of where the Rhodes email fits into the timeline. tl;dr: it's not news that the White House decided that day to agree with the talking points suggested by the CIA, but now there's an email explicitly stating that. Why this email wasn't included in last Fall's release is unknown, and it probably should have been (OMG COVER UP!), but it doesn't really change our understanding of the situation.

What we should have learned from Benghazi is that, once again, the CIA had no loving idea what was going on and we should question the utility of an intelligence agency with such a spectacularly poor track record.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

AhhYes posted:

So I'm a little confused about what this new Benghazi email is supposed to have "revealed".

Is it really just that the White House wanted to emphasize the spontaneous video-instigated nature of the attacks? Hasn't that aspect of this been gone over thoroughly already?

The 'new Benghazi e-mail' is a single line in a 5-page e-mail from the white house communications director that asks Susan Rice to underscore that the attack grew out of a protest over the anti-Islam video. That information was consistent with what the CIA deputy director was telling the white house at that time.

That's it

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Hope Hillary is ready for war in Ukraine.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Good Citizen posted:

The 'new Benghazi e-mail' is a single line in a 5-page e-mail from the white house communications director that asks Susan Rice to underscore that the attack grew out of a protest over the anti-Islam video. That information was consistent with what the CIA deputy director was telling the white house at that time.

That's it

You'd think the Right would be a bit more understanding of intelligence lapses.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Munkeymon posted:

My boss was hand-wringing about Benghazi just before the election. I remember him getting frustrated and half yelling "IT WAS A 9/11 TERROR ATTACK!" over a discussion at lunch one day when I couldn't see why it wasn't just a small-ish tragedy of just a few more pointless deaths on the other side of the world.

I'm picturing your boss as Tom, the people-skills guy from Office Space. Is that about accurate? :v:

Zombie Samurai posted:

Poor Cliven Bundy. After being harassed by federal agents working to enforce a court order, what's a sovereign citizen to do? That's right, press charges.

Ah yes, the legal system doesn't exist until you want to use it for something. #libertarian

tbp
Mar 1, 2008

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zoux posted:

You'd think the Right would be a bit more understanding of intelligence lapses.

They're both unintelligent, and at the same time actually ignorant of that. Check this out : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



loquacius posted:

I'm picturing your boss as Tom, the people-skills guy from Office Space. Is that about accurate? :v:

The other guy is way more like Tom - they even have the same title and usefulness around the office. My boss was a :newt: fan, though, and I still find that pretty funny.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

tbp posted:

They're both unintelligent, and at the same time actually ignorant of that. Check this out : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Wow what a weird phenomenon. Thanks for pointing it out to this goon!


Kinda surprised to see all you guys posting on this, the National Day of Prayer. This is a non political day where we set aside our differences and reach out to God Almight to heal the divides in our n-...

quote:

Dobson promoted the event by warning that America “is being invaded by evils such as pornography, abortion, infidelity, same-sex marriage and the agenda of the far Left,” and invited Jonathan Cahn, who believes that President Obama’s re-election and marriage equality are signs of the End Times, to be the event’s keynote speaker.

Immediately after James Dobson, the Focus on the Family founder and Shirley’s husband, framed the National Day of Prayer as an apolitical event, he blasted Obama as the “abortion president.”

“Come and get me, Mr. President, if you must,” he said, quoting a letter he sent to Obama last week.

“I will not yield to your wicked regulations.” This is not a huge surprise coming from Dobson, who back in 2012 exposed the highly political nature of the National Day of Prayer.


Personal aside, as a young lad in an evangelical Christian school, the National Day of Prayer was a loving dreaded nightmare because we would have to sit quietly in prayer literally all day.

zoux fucked around with this message at 20:26 on May 2, 2014

ufarn
May 30, 2009
Looks like Hollywood attendance at the Correspondents Dinner is on the wane, because This Town tends to act like idiots around celebrities:

quote:

According to the source, "there are way too many A-listers who have had pretty weird experiences at the dinner. A lot of the people who have gone say they'll never do it again. The room is so crowded. It's uncontrolled. There's no limit to the number of people trying to get photos and autographs -- and there's no way to hide from it. It's like the stars are animals in a cage. People go crazy when they see them. They act like a bunch of kids at the Kids' Choice Awards."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/few-movie-stars-set-attend-700688

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Today has been a busy day for the Republican House members' graphics guys.






Meanwhile, here's Rep. Judy Chu (D-CA) on the Iron Throne.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Joementum posted:

Today has been a busy day for the Republican House members' graphics guys.




Did this hideous goblin do Benghazi :ohdear:

Spun Dog
Sep 21, 2004


Smellrose
Edit ^^^^ Ha!

Joementum posted:

Today has been a busy day for the Republican House members' graphics guys.




So was that guy the embassy undertaker in Benghazi?

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Oh man, it wasn't until one of the more recent articles about the Bundy hullabaloo posted in this thread that I learned that those Oath Keeper idiots were part of that madhouse. That's the nutso militia that's been recruiting active-duty military for years right? It's one thing to talk about how evil and illegitimate the government is but to say the same thing while being active duty seems a little more illegal.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Shear Modulus posted:

Oh man, it wasn't until one of the more recent articles about the Bundy hullabaloo posted in this thread that I learned that those Oath Keeper idiots were part of that madhouse. That's the nutso militia that's been recruiting active-duty military for years right? It's one thing to talk about how evil and illegitimate the government is but to say the same thing while being active duty seems a little more illegal.

Hm actually they are the only ones who are legal because they are Upholding a Sworn Oath and this is Game of Thrones I guess.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Joementum posted:

Today has been a busy day for the Republican House members' graphics guys.






Great, the early-90s Time Magazine cover editor was able to find new work after all :unsmith:.

Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 20:58 on May 2, 2014

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Meanwhile, Heritage asks, hmmmmmm are they brothers? and finds out that, yes they are brothers! :ms:

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

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Shear Modulus posted:

Oh man, it wasn't until one of the more recent articles about the Bundy hullabaloo posted in this thread that I learned that those Oath Keeper idiots were part of that madhouse. That's the nutso militia that's been recruiting active-duty military for years right? It's one thing to talk about how evil and illegitimate the government is but to say the same thing while being active duty seems a little more illegal.

This appears to be the most significant thing they've done besides the Bundy thing:

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:

This appears to be the most significant thing they've done besides the Bundy thing:

They also turned out for the protest in front of the White House during the government shutdown.



That was the same one with the guy waving the Confederate battle flag in front of the White House and Larry Klayman shouting "put down the Quran and come out with your hands up" into a megaphone.

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

Joementum posted:

Issa might not be in charge of the Benghazi proceedings much longer, because....




I'd guess we'll be talking about reviving the Office of the Special Prosecutor by year's end.

What's Kenneth Starr doing these days? Is he still alive?

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Joementum posted:

Issa might not be in charge of the Benghazi proceedings much longer, because....




I'd guess we'll be talking about reviving the Office of the Special Prosecutor by year's end.

:munch:

I wonder if I can sue the GOP when their Benghazi theatrics give me diabetes.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Joementum posted:

Meanwhile, Heritage asks, hmmmmmm are they brothers? and finds out that, yes they are brothers! :ms:

Using the latest in MSPaint tech, I see.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

zoux posted:

Wow what a weird phenomenon. Thanks for pointing it out to this goon!

tbp has officially Noticed that right-wing messaging is disingenuous. Be astonished at his incisive observations.

Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

Shear Modulus posted:

Oh man, it wasn't until one of the more recent articles about the Bundy hullabaloo posted in this thread that I learned that those Oath Keeper idiots were part of that madhouse. That's the nutso militia that's been recruiting active-duty military for years right? It's one thing to talk about how evil and illegitimate the government is but to say the same thing while being active duty seems a little more illegal.

Being a part of any public political group or militia group while being active duty is a big no-no. You can donate but any sort of campaigning or the like is highly discourage. That's a quick way to get hammered by your commander.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

richardfun posted:

What's Kenneth Starr doing these days? Is he still alive?

Fox News commentary guest from time to time, Chancellor of Baylor university full time

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

richardfun posted:

What's Kenneth Starr doing these days? Is he still alive?


Fried Chicken posted:

Fox News commentary guest from time to time, Chancellor of Baylor university full time

Also trying to get his child molester friends out of jail part time.

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Mitt Romney
Nov 9, 2005
dumb and bad

Alter Ego posted:

It'll pass the House and fail in the Senate, then the media narrative will become "Do Republicans spend too much time trying to impeach Democratic Presidents?"

Their impotent rage over the fact that there is no "there" there on Benghazi is nothing short of hilarious. All this "special committee" is is another bullshit dickwaving party on the part of the GOP to rile up their base. They will find nothing and they will quietly conclude proceedings after the midterm elections.

What would require Obama to be impeached assuming the GOP takes the Senate for 2015 and assuming they kill the remainder of the fillibuster?

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