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Install Windows posted:Taking a shot at him is a great way to go immediately to federal prison. Well yes, nobody with any sense of self-preservation would attempt to assassinate a major political figure. I'd like to see him be tried for war crimes too, but I guess the sad truth is that George W. Bush will live the rest of his life a free and increasingly well-liked man, painting dogs and proving with his continued unmolested existence that there's no justice in the world.
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Swagger Dagger posted:My "favorite" exchange was when they were talking about the spread of "enhanced interrogation" techniques from Guantanamo Bay to Iraw and Afghanistan, and how Rumsfeld didn't know anything about it. Morris says something like "What, stuff just happens" and Rumsfeld just goes "Yeah, you know, wars evolve as they go along." quote:Zaphod's just this guy, you know?
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Pornographic Memory posted:Well yes, nobody with any sense of self-preservation would attempt to assassinate a major political figure. I'd like to see him be tried for war crimes too, but I guess the sad truth is that George W. Bush will live the rest of his life a free and increasingly well-liked man, painting dogs and proving with his continued unmolested existence that there's no justice in the world. Considering where he left off, it's hard not to be increasingly well-liked. 
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Reminder that the 2008 campaign literally consisted of candidates listing reasons they were not going to be George Bush and accusing the other side of continuing his policies.
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Reminder George W. Bush was underestimated, was the underdog throughout his life, and in general the only people who opposed him in 2000 were smarmy know it all liberals that work for Huffington Post now.
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eggyolk posted:Institutionalized "affluenza" is certainly a big step towards literal class warfare. We need to invent "poorfluenza" to combat it.
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effectual posted:We need to invent "poorfluenza" to combat it. It's called affirmative action.
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Nonsense posted:Reminder George W. Bush was underestimated, was the underdog throughout his life, and in general the only people who opposed him in 2000 were smarmy know it all liberals that work for Huffington Post now.
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effectual posted:We need to invent "poorfluenza" to combat it. jesus, it's poorlio, you clod
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Ofaloaf posted:Except for the bit where he was Governor of Texas, and then President of the United States. And owned a baseball team. And went to one of the best schools in the country despite getting gentleman Cs. And being born into 3rd generation of fantastical wealth to an already incredibly accomplished statesman and veteran father. Boo fuckin hoo I wish I was a George Bush underdog.
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Barudak posted:And owned a baseball team. And went to one of the best schools in the country despite getting gentleman Cs. And being born into 3rd generation of fantastical wealth to an already incredibly accomplished statesman and veteran father. Latte liberals called him dumb, allow me to go into why he was not dumb, you see
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SedanChair posted:Who does? And we were talking about the Vietnam War, not the beginning of our involvement. If I was talking about the start of our involvement with Iraq, we'd also be talking about Eisenhower instead of Bush. I blame LBJ for a lot of Nam. Not the entirety of course since Nixon did a ton of terrible things as well. In fact I would say my feelings on LBJ are wildly different based on whether we're discussing his domestic or foreign policies. All that said I mostly blame the French for Vietnam. loving French and their ineptitude at Dien Bien Phu along with constantly underestimating General Giap and their general inability to handle their own loving affairs.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:I blame LBJ for a lot of Nam not the entirety since Nixon did a ton of terrible things as well. In fact I would say my feelings on LBJ are wildly different based on whether we're discussing his domestic or foreign policies. The fourth French Republic was spectacularly terrible. They were invaded by their own colony.
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SedanChair posted:Do people hate Johnson for starting the Vietnam war? My dad has never forgiven the Democrats in general for Vietnam. That he was wholeheartedly behind Iraq was a hypocrisy I could pick up on even as a dumbass teenager. Wars sure are great when you're not fighting them, aren't they?
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hobbesmaster posted:The fourth French Republic was spectacularly terrible. They were invaded by their own colony. Didn't that just happen to us over a bunch of cows?
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Cheekio posted:Didn't that just happen to us over a bunch of cows? When did we colonize Racist White People?
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Install Windows posted:When did we colonize Racist White People? 1865
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MarsDragon posted:My dad has never forgiven the Democrats in general for Vietnam. Baby Boomers, 1973: "No loving WAY will we ever be bullshitted into a racist war built on straight-up lies and started mainly to enrich the President's friends!" Baby Boomers, 2003: "Well, the Foxnews says he has a mobile bio-weapons lab, we've got to get behind our war leader and protect the Homeland!" Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. It's so depressing.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Congress reinstated lifetime coverage in 2012.
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JonathonSpectre posted:Baby Boomers, 1973: "No loving WAY will we ever be bullshitted into a racist war built on straight-up lies and started mainly to enrich the President's friends!" Don't forget, 9/11 was instrumental in turning people to the dumb side. To this day I don't get why it made so many people lose their common sense. I always thought Americans were made of stronger stuff, but... I guess not.
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JonathonSpectre posted:Baby Boomers, 1973: "No loving WAY will we ever be bullshitted into a racist war built on straight-up lies and started mainly to enrich the President's friends!" I wonder how much of that is going from being an outsider looking in on the group with the power to being the part of the group with the power. When you're benefitting the most from the current system its very difficult to heavily criticize it. Or so it seems. Perhaps we'll find out the hard way when we're loving poor people out of their final dollars and cutting welfare entirely to fund our social security.
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beatlegs posted:Don't forget, 9/11 was instrumental in turning people to the dumb side. To this day I don't get why it made so many people lose their common sense. I always thought Americans were made of stronger stuff, but... I guess not. They kind of had the perfect set-up, though. Multiple media conduits enabled the politicization of factual reality. That was reinforced by the admin's PR, who eventually tied 9/11 into it. Global warming became the purvey of al-Qaeda, Tax cuts fought the terrorists, and why in the hell would you vote against cutting food stamps when THOSE TOWERS BURNED
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I don't know if any possible theoretical America could have stood up against the rah rah USA USA blitz after 9/11. edit: some weeks after the incident, I remember reading an article about a Yankees game where the ref made a bad call against the Yankees and people started shouting USA!! USA!!! at him. That's when I realized that this country had lost its loving mind and it wouldn't be back for a long time. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 10:18 on May 3, 2014 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:I don't know if any possible theoretical America could have stood up against the rah rah USA USA blitz after 9/11. I think it's less that and more the fact that we didn't loving snap out of it.
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FAUXTON posted:I think it's less that and more the fact that we didn't loving snap out of it. While we haven't managed to break away from the security state and foreign policy that 9/11 created, at the very least one of our major parties is so unpatriotic and treasonous it's difficult to argue that we're still in the "rally around the flag" state 
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Jagchosis posted:While we haven't managed to break away from the security state and foreign policy that 9/11 created, at the very least one of our major parties is so unpatriotic and treasonous it's difficult to argue that we're still in the "rally around the flag" state We are, it's just twisted. They're the ones rallying around the flag, and people aren't straight up sending the fuckers to Angola prison because we never snapped out of that post-9/11 deer-in-headlights fugue.
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SubponticatePoster posted:I'm surprised the Republicans let that happen. You'd think they'd vote for terminating it the minute whomever is sworn in January 2017. The last thing the Republicans (the ones in Congress, anyway) want is for Obama to be assassinated. If he's murdered in office, that just puts the Presidency in the hands of Diamond Joe. If he's murdered afterward, it keeps him from making a few speeches and dedicating a library. Either way, it'd be extremely likely that he's killed by someone on the far right, and quite likely a white supremacist at that. Not only does that give a huge boost to the Democrats, but it also is one hell of a crack in the "racism is over" facade.
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Mornacale posted:The last thing the Republicans (the ones in Congress, anyway) want is for Obama to be assassinated. If he's murdered in office, that just puts the Presidency in the hands of Diamond Joe. If he's murdered afterward, it keeps him from making a few speeches and dedicating a library. Either way, it'd be extremely likely that he's killed by someone on the far right, and quite likely a white supremacist at that. Not only does that give a huge boost to the Democrats, but it also is one hell of a crack in the "racism is over" facade. If something that horrific happened I hope to all things good and holy it's leveraged as much as possible to crush those loving conservative filth into unrecoverable dust.
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Sometimes it's a slow news day  So what's this about France being invaded by one of its colonies? That sounds hilarious and my history is pretty bad
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SavageBastard posted:Sometimes this thread is amazing and sometimes I feel like I'm reading a Freep thread with liberal enemies swapped for conservative ones. In the political maps thread people are bemoaning (half seriously) how the losers of the Civil War should have been exterminated. Jagchosis posted:While we haven't managed to break away from the security state and foreign policy that 9/11 created, at the very least one of our major parties is so unpatriotic and treasonous it's difficult to argue that we're still in the "rally around the flag" state Things are wayyyy different from now, and I'm speaking as someone who was about 10 when we invaded Iraq. Back then people would get suspicious if someone with a niqab showed up, now it's just an odd curiosity.
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computer parts posted:In the political maps thread people are bemoaning (half seriously) how the losers of the Civil War should have been exterminated. I'm not gonna delve into that quagmire cuz it sounds like a helluva mess but I do wish the Southern elites and former Confederates had spent more time being tried for treason than being elected to national office. I also wish their votes in the House and Senate had been deemed non binding for twelve years or more so the Union could have done more unhindered.
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Magres posted:So what's this about France being invaded by one of its colonies? That sounds hilarious and my history is pretty bad The only thing close to this I can think of is Algeria, which was less "invasion" and more "get the gently caress out."
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Those liberal atheist universities censor Republicansquote:Condoleezza Rice Decides Not To Speak At Rutgers Commencement http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/03/condoleezza-rice-rutgers-commencement_n_5259180.html Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 15:57 on May 3, 2014 |
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beatlegs posted:Don't forget, 9/11 was instrumental in turning people to the dumb side. To this day I don't get why it made so many people lose their common sense. I always thought Americans were made of stronger stuff, but... I guess not. Fear is a hell of a drug.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Those liberal atheist universities censor Republicans You know for all the reasons she could have given for not wanting to do that, this is among the better ones. I don't care for her, but at least she gave a very sensible reason for backing out.
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Magres posted:So what's this about France being invaded by one of its colonies? That sounds hilarious and my history is pretty bad I think this? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op%E9ration_R%E9surrection Not exactly being invaded by a colony, but it's the closest event to it I guess.
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Here's a fun slow news day piece: Death threats stop gun store from selling 'smart' gun. Why? quote:The White House has urged gun companies to invent safety technology that could limit a gun’s use to its owner. But two gun shops decided not to sell such guns after receiving death threats.
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Putin It In Mah rear end posted:I think this? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op%E9ration_R%E9surrection Corsica counts as France.
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hobbesmaster posted:Corsica counts as France. Tell that to a Corsican
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