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Sampatrick posted:He is soletaken, so one would assume he would smell like a soletaken o.O I know there are supposed implications of him being soletaken, but is it ever said outright? Or does anyone have references to him being one?
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Rye Bread posted:I know there are supposed implications of him being soletaken, but is it ever said outright? Or does anyone have references to him being one? IIRC, yes.
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May 3, 2014 22:05
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Rye Bread posted:I know there are supposed implications of him being soletaken, but is it ever said outright? Or does anyone have references to him being one? In GotM, Shadowthrone calls him "you shapeshifting bastard"
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May 3, 2014 22:45
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SansPants posted:In GotM, Shadowthrone calls him "you shapeshifting bastard" Ah. I only read through the series once, finishing back in February. I only read on my train rides, so GotM was a couple years ago for me.
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May 3, 2014 22:49
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Rye Bread posted:Ah. I only read through the series once, finishing back in February. I only read on my train rides, so GotM was a couple years ago for me. I noticed it on my first reading and spent the rest of the series waiting to see what he veers into.
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May 4, 2014 00:07
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SansPants posted:I noticed it on my first reading and spent the rest of the series waiting to see what he veers into. A Dragondemonimassfalconthunderbird.
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May 4, 2014 01:44
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Habibi posted:A Dragondemonimassfalconthunderbird. ...with swords for arms.
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May 4, 2014 13:34
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He's clearly D'ivers Azathanai.
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May 4, 2014 14:07
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Quick Ben is a soletaken that veers into the form of Quick Ben.
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May 4, 2014 14:09
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SansPants posted:In GotM, Shadowthrone calls him "you shapeshifting bastard" I always assumed that this was referring to one of his other souls. That Shadowthrone knew one of his souls in a different body. I didn't ever think it was in reference to him actually being a shapeshifter for true. On my first reread though
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May 4, 2014 23:21
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Tooter posted:I always assumed that this was referring to one of his other souls. That Shadowthrone knew one of his souls in a different body. I didn't ever think it was in reference to him actually being a shapeshifter for true. On my first reread though He names him Delat when making the claim. The body he uses now is the one shadow throne recognises. Remember while it was the youngest and least badass that's more a reflection on how awesome his other souls were. He's still a former high priest of shadow himself.
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May 5, 2014 09:08
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Honestly what's the practical difference, if any, between a priest and a Mage? Also is durhang supposed to be opium or hash?
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May 5, 2014 14:26
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Mages use Warrens or holds through their own inherent or studied ability, while the only magic priests can use by virtue of being priests is granted by their god. I think. Though many priests are also mages.
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tuluk posted:Anyone willing to translate what Nep Furrow said in the Crippled God epilogue? As I read it - and I could be very wrong - when Nep gets asked what's he's going to do now they can disband, Nep gets right pissy and points out that Nep is actually a woman, you blind arseholes. Or something along those lines. I think.
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uh zip zoom posted:Honestly what's the practical difference, if any, between a priest and a Mage? Also is durhang supposed to be opium or hash? I always thought of it like a harsher opium type narcotic. God I need to pick the series back up and finish it, stopped mid-way through DoD to catch my breathe and never resumed (Damned infinite side-plots!)
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rejutka posted:Nep Furrow Yeah if there's one singular thing I really hate, it's the accent-so-thick-its-nigh-unreadable trope. It shouldn't ever be used in my opinion. I have a brother who is (very) hard of hearing, and it just ruins books if that is used because there's no possible way for him to 'sound out' what the guy 'meant to say' so its a bit of a pet peeve of mine. I literally skipped over anything Nep said because I have such an ingrained dislike for it.
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nucleicmaxid posted:Yeah if there's one singular thing I really hate, it's the accent-so-thick-its-nigh-unreadable trope. It shouldn't ever be used in my opinion. I have a brother who is (very) hard of hearing, and it just ruins books if that is used because there's no possible way for him to 'sound out' what the guy 'meant to say' so its a bit of a pet peeve of mine. I literally skipped over anything Nep said because I have such an ingrained dislike for it. I'm usually too lazy to bother to interpret it directly so I just treat this trope like Chewbacca. If I'm meant to know what they're saying, one of the other characters will understand them and respond in a way that makes if clear for me.
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Rye Bread posted:I know there are supposed implications of him being soletaken, but is it ever said outright? Or does anyone have references to him being one? One of the souls he absorded was Soletaken. Here is a brief list of the other magi within Ben. Kebharla, more a scholar than a mage Renisha, a sorceror of High Meanas Keluger, a Septime Priest of D'riss Narkal, the warrior-mage sworn to Fener and aspirant to the god's Mortal Sword Ullan, the Soletaken priestess of Soliel Set'alahd Crool, a Jhag half-blood Etra, a mistress of Rashan Birith'erah, mage of the Serc warren Gellid, witch of Tennes . In addition to that Quick Ben's original warren is Rashan as a high priest of Rashan. Eventually he defected from Rashan and took on the Meanas Warren. Popular opinion is that if Quick Ben has a soletaken form it's a wolf as it's mentioned by his sister in the temple of Poliel quote:"As it whispered shut behind him, the woman, his sister, lifted herself to her hands and knees. Her hair hung down obscuring her face but Paran clearly heard as she said, 'There was a wolf' If I need to spoiler tag anything here please let me know.
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Quick Ben's childhood made it clear he was a bit of an rear end in a top hat. I never really got what his sister was there for other than to remind him of that.
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Do we think they'd ever consider a tv series? On the back of Game of Thrones success and the current trend of tv being favoured over film for deep narrative exploration, I'd say it was ripe. I know they attempted a GotM script, but if each book had a 20 episode season it could be the sweetest thing.
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May 11, 2014 13:43
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It's really funny that Whiskeyjack's sister was rescued from being a ward of High House Death considering what happened in DoD/TCG.
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May 11, 2014 13:58
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Seems like a tough sell to me. A Song of Ice and Fire is basically a costume drama with a few fantasy elements, so it is easily digestible for the general public.
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Lofty132 posted:Do we think they'd ever consider a tv series? On the back of Game of Thrones success and the current trend of tv being favoured over film for deep narrative exploration, I'd say it was ripe. I know they attempted a GotM script, but if each book had a 20 episode season it could be the sweetest thing. I kind of doubt it. It's really hard to pin down exact sales figures (especially for ASOIAF prior to the tv series) but ASOIAF is basically pretty anomalous in the fantasy genre for developing some popularity outside of genre fans even before the tv series. Best I can see is that ASOIAF had sold around 15 million books as a series just prior to the tv show. Comparatively, the Malazan series didn't crack 1 million until the The Crippled God came out - that's a pretty huge difference even without accounting for how many more total books are in the Malazan series. A Malazan series would also probably have to be animated. The cost of casting, set design, and special effects for all of the races, magic, and supernatural locations would probably be prohibitive for any sort of live action production, which I imagine would turn off a lot of tv studios. I don't think it's out of the question that it could be picked up for a series, but I wouldn't hold my breath. BobFromMarketing posted:One of the souls he absorded was Soletaken. Here is a brief list of the other magi within Ben. So wait, depending upon exactly how Quick Ben handles absorbing other peoples skills/abilities/experience he's also potentially a great warrior on top of his magic?
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May 11, 2014 14:10
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I think it just shows we never really see Quick Ben's full abilities. He is the second most intelligent human on the planet and skilled beyond measure in his various warrens.
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BobFromMarketing posted:I think it just shows we never really see Quick Ben's full abilities. He is the second most intelligent human on the planet and skilled beyond measure in his various warrens. Second? Sure we're told that he isn't that far behind Kruppe, but at the time we didn't know about a certain roof-dwelling sheet-wearing human who could probably eat Kruppe for breakfast. Quick is clearly third.
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Masonity posted:Second? Sure we're told that he isn't that far behind Kruppe, but at the time we didn't know about a certain roof-dwelling sheet-wearing human who could probably eat Kruppe for breakfast. Right I completely forgot about him.
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Masonity posted:Second? Sure we're told that he isn't that far behind Kruppe, but at the time we didn't know about a certain roof-dwelling sheet-wearing human who could probably eat Kruppe for breakfast. Little known Malazan trivia: Erikson has attempted to write a Tehol/Kruppe novella on no fewer than seven occasions, but he never gets more than 4 pages in before the thing spontaneously combusts.
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Crazy Larry posted:A Malazan series would also probably have to be animated. The cost of casting, set design, and special effects for all of the races, magic, and supernatural locations would probably be prohibitive for any sort of live action production, which I imagine would turn off a lot of tv studios. I don't think it's out of the question that it could be picked up for a series, but I wouldn't hold my breath. However, I could totally see a mini-series or show based around a particular event or set of events from the Malazan world. The Chain of Dogs would probably work well. It's a linear story that doesn't require you to know or learn much background, it's compelling as gently caress despite the overall simplicity of the plot (get refugees from point A to B), it has strong main and supporting characters, and features enough CHAAAARGE and SWISH SWISH CLANG and HUURRGggg to satisfy even the Spartacus crowd. The defense of Capustan could serve for similar reasons. Karsa's arc from House of Chains, maybe with some modification. Hrm, maybe even a large chunk of OST. Essentially storylines that could be presented as self-contained - eg: for OST, even though it involves a lot of characters/races who've had histories or background already established, you wouldn't necessarily need to get much of it across in order to retain a cohesive story. quote:So wait, depending upon exactly how Quick Ben handles absorbing other peoples skills/abilities/experience he's also potentially a great warrior on top of his magic? I expect the explanation for why this would not be the case is something like that accessing a warren is (in the majority of cases) something you have a natural affinity for (even if you don't train and use it), and thus could be argued to be part of the soul. Being really good at killing dudes with a mace is probably more of a learned skill.
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Habibi posted:The Chain of Dogs would probably work well. It's a linear story that doesn't require you to know or learn much background, it's compelling as gently caress despite the overall simplicity of the plot (get refugees from point A to B), it has strong main and supporting characters, and features enough CHAAAARGE and SWISH SWISH CLANG and HUURRGggg to satisfy even the Spartacus crowd. The defense of Capustan could serve for similar reasons. I would follow that with with Onearm's host, Anomander's Rake and Caladan Brood vs Pannion Seer.
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That would actually be really, incredibly cool. Three mini-series dealing with one isolated story arc each, all part of the same universe. That way you'd also avoid the trap that GoT has fallen into where some plot arcs are now receiving only 4 minutes of screen time per episode.
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Habibi posted:Little known Malazan trivia: Erikson has attempted to write a Tehol/Kruppe novella on no fewer than seven occasions, but he never gets more than 4 pages in before the thing spontaneously combusts. And when he tried mixing in Iskaral Pust and his donkey, he inadvertently created a black hole.
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Masonity posted:Second? Sure we're told that he isn't that far behind Kruppe, but at the time we didn't know about a certain roof-dwelling sheet-wearing human who could probably eat Kruppe for breakfast. Wait, who? is that someone i forgot or someone from the most recent book i haven't read yet?
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May 12, 2014 11:52
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Tehol is who he is referencing.
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Finished the last book yesterday. I started the first one about two years ago. Why do I have the feeling that I should start rereading the drat thing with copious wiki/internet support in order to finally have a clear picture of the entire thing?
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Fat Samurai posted:Finished the last book yesterday. I started the first one about two years ago. I actually have stopped before Dust of Dreams to go back to Garden's of the Moon. The amount of new details I am picking up is staggering. I highly recommend it.
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Fat Samurai posted:Finished the last book yesterday. I started the first one about two years ago. Nah you just need to read it two or three more times. 
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Fat Samurai posted:Finished the last book yesterday. I started the first one about two years ago. Funny… That's what I'm doing right now.
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Doesn't kindle now allow a kind of series specific dictionary to be added to a book? An Encyclopedia Malazan hot linking to names of people / places / races / etc would make the ebook versions awesome. And maybe make me consider spending £60 or whatever that mega edition costs.
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Masonity posted:Doesn't kindle now allow a kind of series specific dictionary to be added to a book? An Encyclopedia Malazan hot linking to names of people / places / races / etc would make the ebook versions awesome. And maybe make me consider spending £60 or whatever that mega edition costs. I'm very interested in this. Please, tell me more. Is it a feature exclusive to the Kindle fire?
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uh zip zoom posted:I'm very interested in this. Please, tell me more. Is it a feature exclusive to the Kindle fire? Kindle touch and fire. It seems like its limited to Wikipedia and their own book community though. amazon X-ray
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