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SedanChair posted:What's a good gun law fishmech. New Jersey's gun laws.
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May 3, 2014 23:08
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Install Windows posted:When it comes to guns they pretty much are. Then the electronics in these "smart guns" is going to be more expensive than the gun itself.
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May 3, 2014 23:09
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hobbesmaster posted:Then the electronics in these "smart guns" is going to be more expensive than the gun itself. And we should care... why? The electronics in a modern toaster oven can cost more than the heating element.
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May 3, 2014 23:10
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The klan's coming, hurry up and toast that loving bread!Install Windows posted:New Jersey's gun laws. Why are they good?
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May 3, 2014 23:10
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SedanChair posted:The evidence is that police have requested the technology, and police organizations work hand in hand with Bloomberg and others. It's not conclusive evidence and it doesn't need to be. It's good enough evidence to fight it tooth and nail. Cool, so you're saying the Police are the bad guys here. Good to know. SedanChair posted:Is the cannon disabled if the RFID reader stops working? Nope but that's not what the conversation was about. Try again. hobbesmaster posted:Because military and consumer grade equipment is always the same. No, it's not, but RFID tags are used in high pressure situations such as deep-sea rigs, etc. I'm willing to concede to you for now, though, as I can't find concrete evidence of what RFID tags are actually being used in the Armatrix setup. Making sure that any tech works when needed is something that really should be stressed and I know that RFID chips work in harsher situations than handgun recoil but until I can back myself up in this case, it's a fair point.
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May 3, 2014 23:10
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SedanChair posted:What's a good gun law fishmech. One that takes specifically your guns away and requires Barack Obama to personally urinate on all of them when he wakes up every morning.
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May 3, 2014 23:10
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SedanChair posted:Why are they good. Because they enrage the underinformed and are repeatedly scorned by the NRA who shake their fists impotently from Fairfax. Also they're pretty much normative gun laws for the rest of the world. 
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May 3, 2014 23:12
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SedanChair posted:I hope you get some solace from this, because you're sure not going to get it from changes to gun laws. I'm not sure why you think I'm getting solace for something with my questions here, I wanted to know if you had a sound basis for your assertion. You've clarified your assertion from statement of fact to what you personally believe to be the case based on associative judgements and I thanked you for that. e: vvv What? 
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May 3, 2014 23:13
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e: ^^^ Smugness should be backed up with intelligence.Robviously posted:Nope but that's not what the conversation was about. Try again. I reckon you see that your answer shows why your point was without relevance. In a smart gun the function depends on the system. In a wear tracking system it doesn't. So the durability requirement is totally different and nothing short of 100% is acceptable, and 100% is impossible. Jagchosis posted:One that takes specifically your guns away and requires Barack Obama to personally urinate on all of them when he wakes up every morning. I hope he bought a Nantucket Nectars with the money I sent him. To make urine with. Install Windows posted:Because they enrage the underinformed and are repeatedly scorned by the NRA who shake their fists impotently from Fairfax. Also they're pretty much normative gun laws for the rest of the world. In other words, spite and party politics. woke wedding drone fucked around with this message at 23:16 on May 3, 2014 |
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May 3, 2014 23:14
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You wouldn't put a safety on your penis.
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May 3, 2014 23:16
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So because people are worried that the guns might not fire, even though this hasn't actually happened, Americans should not be able to buy them and also the RFID chip and tracking system will lead to the Antichrist coming to take them away later. I didn't realize I started posting on a Left Behind fan forum, I call the role of "Chaim."
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May 3, 2014 23:16
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Huh, a lot of activity in this thread today. Is it more delightful Bundy hilarity? Oh I hope it's more delightful Bundy hilarity...SedanChair posted:Excuse me while I lodge my head up my own rear end because someone mentioned guns. It's warm and cozy up here. Oh, wait, nevermind. Carry on with your gun chat folks.
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May 3, 2014 23:18
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SedanChair posted:
No, it's because it's the way gun laws work in most places. Gun freaks hollering about how it's the downfall is merely a good indicator you're doing something right, because they need to point their guns in certain other directions.
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May 3, 2014 23:18
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Can we please get off the loving gunchat already. I'll take anything else.
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May 3, 2014 23:19
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Mormon Star Wars posted:So because people are worried that the guns might not fire quote:Anything that can go wrong with a gun, will go wrong, sooner or later.  e: Install Windows posted:No, it's because it's the way gun laws work in most places. Gun freaks hollering about how it's the downfall is merely a good indicator you're doing something right, because they need to point their guns in certain other directions. Somebody got spooky in gunchat, but it wasn't me. e2: VVV Guns don't keep people alive? Somebody tell the cops. woke wedding drone fucked around with this message at 23:25 on May 3, 2014 |
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May 3, 2014 23:20
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Yeah, sorry for making GBS threads up the thread. I can't hit that 100% shitposting mark and that's just unacceptable. Edit: I can, however, hit the 99% shitposting mark that medical devices have so you know, glad to know that guns need to be held to a higher level than poo poo that actually keeps people alive.
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May 3, 2014 23:21
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SedanChair posted:
Ah yes, everything that can go wrong with a gun will go wrong. But it will never ever be turned against the owner or innocents because reasons Sorry, I hate gunchat as much as anyone.
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May 3, 2014 23:24
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SedanChair posted:Somebody got spooky in gunchat, but it wasn't me. Well you certainly got spooked by the idea that in the year 2100 you might be unable to not use a cybergun, which is weird and probably indicates you should see a therapist. 
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May 3, 2014 23:24
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cbservo posted:Can we please get off the loving gunchat already. I'll take anything else. Like SedanChair wouldn't be doing this with any other topic.
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May 3, 2014 23:25
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Install Windows posted:Well you certainly got spooked by the idea that in the year 2100 you might be unable to not use a cybergun, which is weird and probably indicates you should see a therapist.
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May 3, 2014 23:25
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Install Windows posted:Well you certainly got spooked by the idea that in the year 2100 you might be unable to not use a cybergun, which is weird and probably indicates you should see a therapist. No I was spooked by your suggestion that I and every other gun owner in America commit suicide.
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May 3, 2014 23:26
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I am typing this post with my gun.
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May 3, 2014 23:27
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Nessus posted:Where does SedanChair stand on b-ball control? The Constitution guarantees my right to the Chaos Dunk.
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May 3, 2014 23:27
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SedanChair posted:No I was spooked by your suggestion that I and every other gun owner in America commit suicide. This is exactly what I'm talking about, you're reading a fellow gun owner as saying all gun owners should commit suicide. Thinking people are telling you to commit suicide is a sign you need mental help.
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May 3, 2014 23:28
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Install Windows posted:This is exactly what I'm talking about, you're reading a fellow gun owner as saying all gun owners should commit suicide. Thinking people are telling you to commit suicide is a sign you need mental help. Don't try to be a pro at things you lack the training for. Care to explain what you meant by pointing our guns in "certain other directions" then?
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May 3, 2014 23:29
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SedanChair posted:Care to explain what you meant by pointing our guns in "certain other directions" then? 
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May 3, 2014 23:30
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Slow news day I take it? I finally picked up a copy of the Robert Gates book. I'm very interested to see his perspective on the past decade of war.
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May 3, 2014 23:31
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Babylon Astronaut posted:You wouldn't put a safety on your penis. Says you.
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May 3, 2014 23:31
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Says you. SedanChair posted:Don't try to be a pro at things you lack the training for.
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May 3, 2014 23:32
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*gasp* Terrorism!
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May 3, 2014 23:32
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Anyone else wishing we could turn this thread into a prison for fishmech and sedanchar?
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May 3, 2014 23:32
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Anyone else wishing we could turn this thread into a prison for fishmech and sedanchar? I'm just happy to see fishmech turn his renowned pedantry on a worthy target.
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May 3, 2014 23:36
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Anyone else wishing we could turn this thread into a prison for fishmech and sedanchar? They're not trapped in here with us. We're trapped in here with them.
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May 3, 2014 23:37
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GreyjoyBastard posted:They're not trapped in here with us. We're trapped in here with them. Nonsense, I can leave any time I want.
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May 3, 2014 23:38
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Anyone else wishing we could turn this thread into a prison for fishmech and sedanchar? Is bad posting a felony?
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May 3, 2014 23:38
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This whole thing is basically the Tesla vs Other Car Companies on another item. Inventor comes up with a new technology that offers features and benefits the old manufacturers don't have. It also happens meet a policy goal (CO2 emissions/unintended shootings) but it is being brought to market because there is a niche for it because there are buyers who like that feature. So the old manufacturers drum up brand loyalty first to try and force them out (remember how tesla was originally for effete losers until it started hitting amazing metrics year after year?). If that doesn't work they will try to legally ban it (see all the GOP states barring Tesla stores and loading up taxes for electric and hybrid vehicles) And if that doesn't work eventually it's features will be copied (Ford F150 swapping to an aluminum frame) Except in the case of the gun manufacturers, since they have managed to frame not buying their brands as an attack on freedom, you get death threats to someone trying to innovate in an industry.
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May 3, 2014 23:40
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hobbesmaster posted:Is bad posting a felony? *looks at gbs posts* 
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May 3, 2014 23:40
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Fried Chicken posted:This whole thing is basically the Tesla vs Other Car Companies on another item. Inventor comes up with a new technology that offers features and benefits the old manufacturers don't have. It also happens meet a policy goal (CO2 emissions/unintended shootings) but it is being brought to market because there is a niche for it because there are buyers who like that feature. So the old manufacturers drum up brand loyalty first to try and force them out (remember how tesla was originally for effete losers until it started hitting amazing metrics year after year?). If that doesn't work they will try to legally ban it (see all the GOP states barring Tesla stores and loading up taxes for electric and hybrid vehicles) And if that doesn't work eventually it's features will be copied (Ford F150 swapping to an aluminum frame) This is of course ignoring that the Tesla "stores" still had you execute the actual order by way of their website, and that remained and remains perfectly fine to order through.
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May 3, 2014 23:42
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Fried Chicken posted:This whole thing is basically the Tesla vs Other Car Companies on another item. Inventor comes up with a new technology that offers features and benefits the old manufacturers don't have. It also happens meet a policy goal (CO2 emissions/unintended shootings) but it is being brought to market because there is a niche for it because there are buyers who like that feature. So the old manufacturers drum up brand loyalty first to try and force them out (remember how tesla was originally for effete losers until it started hitting amazing metrics year after year?). If that doesn't work they will try to legally ban it (see all the GOP states barring Tesla stores and loading up taxes for electric and hybrid vehicles) And if that doesn't work eventually it's features will be copied (Ford F150 swapping to an aluminum frame) The F-150's aluminum body isn't copying Tesla, automakers (including Jaguar, which Ford used to own) have been using it for some time, but seldom in such a mass-market product as the F-150.
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May 3, 2014 23:43
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Install Windows posted:This is of course ignoring that the Tesla "stores" still had you execute the actual order by way of their website, and that remained and remains perfectly fine to order through. Which has what to do with my point? StandardVC10 posted:The F-150's aluminum body isn't copying Tesla, automakers (including Jaguar, which Ford used to own) have been using it for some time, but seldom in such a mass-market product as the F-150. It is a big step towards improvement on gas efficiency, which was the "feature" the Tesla is pushing. Even if you don't like that there are other parts of tesla (eg the manufacturing process) they are looking to take from so the point stands.
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