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Pasco posted:Postal vote for the EU election came today. I'm trying to figure out where you've put the English Democrats there; the top of the list here in Yorkshire is a former BNP member.
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at An Independance from Europe "UK Independence Now" sitting at the top of the ballot with UKIP proper towards the bottom.
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Hungry posted:I checked the parties listed in my area earlier today and you've just reminded me I need to ask the thread how correct the SPGB is, because the only conscionable choice I have is them or the Greens. They're... a little strange. They're the oldest Socialist party in the UK; they argue against any reformism and their election campaigns generally don't change between elections, which is "argue for full Communism" rather than for any type of reforms within capitalism. Here are their election manifestos if you fancy reading through them, although there's not a great deal there... Scotland is probably better than most: we only have two parties of knuckle-draggers, UKIP and lefty-UKIP... e: The alphabetical order thing is a little dumb: one of the reasons why the SNP may have won the election in 2007 was because they stood as "Alex Salmond for First Minister" on the lists rather than under their name; putting them up the top...
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TinTower posted:I'm trying to figure out where you've put the English Democrats there; the top of the list here in Yorkshire is a former BNP member. That party's a fully-fledged front - their remaining sane members quit over the neo-Nazi infiltration a while back.
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Malcolm XML posted:Tell it to customs when they open a package that's marked "gift" but has a commercial invoice in it. Oh, I certainly will, I'm sure they are setting up the battering ram outside right now! I'm certain that they will throw their vast investigative powers at trying to determine my obvious guilt! poo poo, I have to be honest, last time I drove, I was listening to a particularly rousing version of L'Internationale and I exceeded the speed limit by 10% +2MPH. Obviously, I am turning myself into the cops now for dangerous driving, if they haven't already read this and despatched a murder squad. One time in college, someone handed me an evil marijuana cigarette too. I handed it back immediately say no to 9-bar kids, but that obviously made me a drug dealer. I'm writing my memoirs as spiritual successor to pablo escobar. Perhaps the children can learn from my mistakes. And then there was this time where I was precisely 22 minutes and 15 seconds late paying the TV licence. Had to eat the telly. Oh, and yesterday, opened the neighbors spam mail by accident. He said "ugh I get so much of that poo poo, don't worry" when I saw him, but obviously I'm in contravention of the postal services act 2000- don't worry, I'm onto my devious criminal ways and I'm writing a tearful confession to the postie now. HortonNash posted:I suspect that if he's really importing prescription drugs from Singapore then failing to pay the import duty will be the least of his worries. Medicines act '68, unless its a controlled drug there is no legal barrier to importing any prescription only or general sales list medicine provided it is done so for personal use, and is ordered from outside of the UK. I thought everyone in the UK with access to the internet was aware of this amazing loophole? DesperateDan fucked around with this message at 04:33 on May 4, 2014 |
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May 4, 2014 04:30
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IceAgeComing posted:Scotland is probably better than most: we only have two parties of knuckle-draggers, UKIP and lefty-UKIP... Who is this 'Left Wing UKIP' I keep mysteriously hearing about?
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Superb Owls posted:Who is this 'Left Wing UKIP' I keep mysteriously hearing about? No2EU. They did poo poo last time, all candidates got less than 2%, and this time they are standing about half the number of candidates- can't really see them doing much better.
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General China posted:You kill three policemen and you aint ever getting out. You kill three people and chances of getting out of prison any time soon are pretty slim. There is a huge difference between people making decisions about someone on a determinate sentence and someone on a life sentence who has killed multiple people. There are a bunch of people on whole life sentences who are actually never getting out of prison and I'm not sure any of them killed a police officer. There are also a load of people on life sentences (with chance of parole) who are well over tariff and nowhere near getting released any time soon, again not too many of those have killed police officers. That being said, I don't disagree with you about the protection the police get when they kill someone. There are a fair few police officer out there who should be in prison.
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May 4, 2014 09:06
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May 4, 2014 09:25
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Here in Manchester I keep seeing people flyering for the Socialist Equality Party. Anyone know who they are and if they're worth voting for?
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Jippa posted:Big Nige is on bbc1 now. So who does the PR for UKIP? I assume someone with some pretty serious connections with the BBC. The amount of coverage and cheerleading they get is insane. Imagine if someone like the Greens had that much of a platform, and they actually have an MP! Ps. Who are these 'UKIPs of the left' that people are mentioning? Answers Me fucked around with this message at 10:11 on May 4, 2014 |
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May 4, 2014 10:03
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Saw one of those big UKIP billboards on the way back from the takeaway last night, and it chilled me a bit to realise I hadn't really thought of them as real until right then. Seeing something I can only interpret as deep parody posted earnestly in real life rather than on the internet is unsettling. Also the beeb did one of their stupid opinion spots the other day, asking people (mainly commuters it seemed like) on a ferry to France "have you had enough of the EU". For some stupid loving reason they decided to show a majority answering yes. 
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Renaissance Robot posted:Also the beeb did one of their stupid opinion spots the other day, asking people (mainly commuters it seemed like) on a ferry to France "have you had enough of the EU". For some stupid loving reason they decided to show a majority answering yes.
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May 4, 2014 10:23
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Renaissance Robot posted:Saw one of those big UKIP billboards on the way back from the takeaway last night, and it chilled me a bit to realise I hadn't really thought of them as real until right then. Seeing something I can only interpret as deep parody posted earnestly in real life rather than on the internet is unsettling. Why is showing the opinions of the people they asked a 'stupid reason'?
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LemonDrizzle posted:It's possible that the "stupid reason" was that a majority of the respondents did in fact say yes. That would also be stupid, because the people they quizzed are some of the ones benefiting most tangibly from EU membership. I phrased it that way because I don't trust the BBC as far as I could throw them when it comes to "fair and balanced", and also because I want to retain my faith in humanity 
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May 4, 2014 10:45
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I see someone's dusted off NewLabour-bot... http://www.politicshome.com/uk/article/97242/business_class.html quote:Although he opted for politics, Umunna stresses that it’s time Labour shouted more about the way business can boost social mobility for individuals. “I’m very clear: we want to help people make their first million,” he says. “If you set up a start-up and you increase you turnover to over a million, you will be employing people and delivering tax receipts to the Exchequer and helping Britain pay its way in the world. We should be saying that.” 
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I hate Chuka Umunna. He'd be a Tory if he hadn't grown up mixed race in the 80's. He's such a career Mp as well, but he lacks the charisma (but not the pro-bussiness attitude) for all of those shallow Obama comparisons the media likes to make.
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DesperateDan posted:Medicines act '68, unless its a controlled drug there is no legal barrier to importing any prescription only or general sales list medicine provided it is done so for personal use, and is ordered from outside of the UK. I thought everyone in the UK with access to the internet was aware of this amazing loophole? Sorry I was just having trouble thinking of something worth risking receiving Chinese counterfeit medicine over, when an NHS prescription is ~£8 (or free if you have an exemption) and the only thing I can think of are the controlled drugs. Happy to be wrong thoug.
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Answers Me posted:I see someone's dusted off NewLabour-bot... You know that John Steinbeck quote about poor americans voting against their self interests because they think they're temporarily embarassed millionaires? Umunna, a loving labour party MP, of all people, is pushing that line of thinking to the UK. Seriously, gently caress this stupid, destructive bullshit.
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JoylessJester posted:I hate Chuka Umunna. He'd be a Tory if he hadn't grown up mixed race in the 80's. He's such a career Mp as well, but he lacks the charisma (but not the pro-bussiness attitude) for all of those shallow Obama comparisons the media likes to make. Isn't he an ex-public schoolboy and the son of a judge or something?
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Nigel Farage is doing a "We're not racist, look at all the black friends we have!"quote:He told Andrew Marr: "We haven't got a monopoly on unpleasantness and stupidity but not only am I adamant that we are a non-racist party, this week I am going to fight back against it.
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HortonNash posted:Isn't he an ex-public schoolboy and the son of a judge or something? He did go to an independent school, St Dunstan's College, which these days would set you back a cool £15,060 a year. As far as I can tell it was his mother's father who was the High Court judge, Sir Helenus Milmo. He really shouldn't even be in the Labour Party, but I suppose that's a ship that sailed 20 years ago.
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Out of morbid interest i'm going to look at the UKIP manifesto. http://www.ukip.org/issues "Free trade, but not political union, with our European neighbours. " - This is the single dumbest thing about UKIP. If we want to trade with the EU, we have to obey there laws and regulations, only we'll no longer have power over them. This isn't hypothetical by the way, this how it works with Norway who've signed up with EFTA. Oh and you have to pay hefty membership fees as well. "Save £55m a day in membership fees by leaving the EU and give British workers first crack at the 800,000 jobs we currently advertise to EU workers." - Tough luck for the 2.3 million Brits living in the EU, 400,000 of whom are pensioners. Guess you're all have to come home too. "Binding local and national referenda, at the public’s request, on major issues." - And we could call it the 'Witch Hunters Charter'. " Cut all green taxes and wind turbine subsidies." - Guess what the UKIP positon on climate change is? Go on, take as many goes as you like. I need hardly add that all the claims they've made about wind turbines turn out to be bullshit. "Develop shale gas to reduce energy bills and free us from dependence on foreign oil and gas - place the tax revenues into a British Sovereign Wealth Fund." - Frakking for everyone! Hope you like funny tasting drinking water, remember Climate change is a myth. Also the noble energy companies will sell us the gas super cheap and not just put it up on the global market for sale. "Make cuts to foreign aid that are real and rigorous." - Annnnnddddd i'm done here. I'm sick of wading though this sewage. Yes the 0.7% of our budget we spend on trying to alleviate global suffering is clearly a ghastly mistake that must be remedied. There's more, but i'm losing the will to live.
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May 4, 2014 12:04
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Twitter has to be one of the most effective things ever for idiots committing career suicide.
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Deptfordx posted:Tough luck for the 2.3 million Brits living in the EU, 400,000 of whom are pensioners. Guess you're all have to come home too. I bet that those pensioners are actually quite likely to vote UKIP. Ex-pat pensioners are some of the worst people I've ever encountered.
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forkboy84 posted:He did go to an independent school, St Dunstan's College, which these days would set you back a cool £15,060 a year. As far as I can tell it was his mother's father who was the High Court judge, Sir Helenus Milmo. Blimey, i went to St Dunstans. Didn't pay for it, on the long now abolished Assisted place scheme. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_Places_Scheme From his age, he must have entered the same year i left.
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HortonNash posted:I bet that those pensioners are actually quite likely to vote UKIP. Ex-pat pensioners are some of the worst people I've ever encountered. "Britain is full of foreigners. That's why I left" without a hint of irony.
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So what does anyone know about getting out of leases? Moved into a new flat on Tuesday to find out that all the repairs that the letting agency said would be done had not been done, that there were a whole host of other problems with the place such as leaking pipes and the security phone not working, that I couldn't get a mobile phone signal anywhere in the flat and that the place hadn't been cleaned at all (Bathtub full of dirt, toilet covered with piss, dead insects everywhere and toenails of the old tenants under the bed etc). They told me that there would be a two week cooling off period from when I paid the deposit so if I changed my mind I could get out but after looking online I see that there is no way to legally enforce it and after looking through the paperwork I see they haven't bothered to write it down. I'm pretty hosed, ain't I?
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I was forced to move from an area of my city which had a huge immigrant population and it loving sucks. There were about three totally amazing supermarkets nearby where you could probably get any food from here to China. I particularly missed the Chinese supermarket as it was staffed by the filthiest mouthed woman I've ever heard who would flirt constantly with every man who came in, even though she was probably old enough to be a great grandmother. God, she was great. Now I live on a fairly white, fairly impoverished area and it loving blows. I miss being able to walk down the street and buy huge packs of frozen fish and goat meat. Right now I have to walk nearly two miles to the closest supermarket as the buses suck and it's practically a food desert here. This is a bit food centric I guess but it blows.
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Gonzo McFee posted:So what does anyone know about getting out of leases?
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Gonzo McFee posted:So what does anyone know about getting out of leases? I hope you took photos of everything and annotated the inventory so it is clear what state the flat was in when you moved in. I've had some luck over at moneysavingexpert.com getting advice about rent/housing etc., they have a couple of specific forum boards to ask questions. Other option would be Citizen's Advice Bureau. Depends on how the lease is worded but if you could prove that the flat was not in the agreed condition you might have some sway? The only other option is to pursue the landlord to fix the problems - make sure everything is in writing and remember it is the landlord not the letting agency who is ultimately responsible. If they are crap, get in touch with the landlord directly.
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Froodulous posted:"Britain is full of foreigners. That's why I left" without a hint of irony. I found myself watching a brilliant program a few years ago. "Places in the Sun" or some such title. Brit ex-pats trying to open businesses overseas. There was one guy trying to break into the Spanish night club scene, you know the full club 18-30 Costa del sol drunken excess. He wasn't doing very well because his club was a bit of the main drag. They got a business consultant in, they try the usual, promotions, competitions, etc. Nothing no bodys going to stagger an extra half mile to get pissed and cop off when there's a dozen rival clubs on the way. So they suggested they try and turn it into a club for the actual locals. So over the next few months they hire Spanish staff, start playing Spanish music, trying to attract locals. Result? Brilliant. Business is booming, the club is popular and he's got an all year around clientle rather than just seasonal. Trouble is this idiot is an archetypal, won't learn to speak the language, loves England so much he doesn't want to live there, English ex-pat. Seriously, I have never seen a man more resentful of his own success in my entire life. He's all "I don't really like spanish music", "it's not how i intended it to be". He's got a thriving business, but because it's full of happy well-behaved Spanish locals not Drunken brits he's just not happy. Crazy.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Here in Manchester I keep seeing people flyering for the Socialist Equality Party. Anyone know who they are and if they're worth voting for? I believe that all parties with that name are affiliated with the World Socialist Web Site. It's a Trotskyist group with pretty lovely positions (open support for Assad/Gaddafi rather than opposing intervention, for example) and are generally pretty ultraleft and sectarian . Even as a Trotskyist myself I would not vote for them if there was any better option. E: http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/01/07/cong-j07.html Rogue0071 fucked around with this message at 17:07 on May 4, 2014 |
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Rogue0071 posted:a Trotskyist myself 'eave arf a brick at 'im. Have you got a newspaper?
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Filboid Studge posted:'eave arf a brick at 'im. Not every Trotskyist party in the world conforms to British stereotypes about Trotskyism. In my experience in the US, it's the Stalinists here who are quite pushy about newspaper sales. 
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HortonNash posted:Sorry I was just having trouble thinking of something worth risking receiving Chinese counterfeit medicine over, when an NHS prescription is ~£8 (or free if you have an exemption) and the only thing I can think of are the controlled drugs. Happy to be wrong thoug. You must lead a happy lifestyle! for good reasons, not the wrong ones All I tend to get is modafinil/armodafinil, which I have been previously prescribed but can get cheaper than prescription and in whatever variety I desire online, direct to the door. It's the exact same stuff that I got from the pharmacy here, boxed, serial numbered and checkable. I don't think I can name names (you can't in TCC so I won't here) but the company is well known. I get other stuff for various family members for pretty much the same reasons. Counterfeit stuff is next to unheard of provided you use a well known firm (you can do pretty much the same thing within the UK, with an "online consultation" from a doctor, it just costs more because they have to pay a doctor to sit there and risk rubber stamping hundreds of scripts).
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