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Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
I hope it's the plane landing and cutting through fog that is proof that they "forgot to turn off the chemtrails" when they landed.

One of my Facebook friends posted it... I swear...

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Watermelon City
May 10, 2009

FuzzySkinner posted:

I recall reading about HAAP along with a few other "out there" theories including some place called Dulce Base, Montauk/Camp Hero and about "The Philadelphia Experiment".

Is this the same NM Dulce Base where America fought grey aliens in an underground skirmish?

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Strudel Man posted:

I don't think any biblical wars or battles took place at distances greater than the human eye's effective range of resolution. It was a little bit before the era of the high-powered rifle or the ballistic missile.

Like I said, you'd kinda want to see them coming in advance, certainly would let you prepare for it

moller
Jan 10, 2007

Swan stole my music and framed me!

Watermelon City posted:

Is this the same NM Dulce Base where America fought grey aliens in an underground skirmish?

Yes, Paul Bennewitz intercepted the radio communications of a stellar traveller lady named Io and she explained the whole thing.

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004

Max22 posted:

The Chemtrail crowd discovered a new smoking gun this week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O01ZebpBHhU

Deleted. :tinfoil:

Was that the video of the plane with the crazy looking wingtip vortices?

emgeejay
Dec 8, 2007

Spoeank posted:

I hope it's the plane landing and cutting through fog that is proof that they "forgot to turn off the chemtrails" when they landed.

That's the one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3MwWyOiOqA

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

My favorite comment:

quote:

Michael O 1 day ago:
Chemtrails are real, but this isn't proof of them, this is just moisture flwoing off of the wings. However, anyone that thinks that planes drawing patterns in the sky is normal, needs to get their eyes examined.

So close...so close...

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
If you want to learn about conspiracies, I'd advise checking out Skeptoid. Each episode is 15 min or less, and does a pretty good job at summerizing each topic.

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4311
Rothschild episode

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4122
HAARP episode.

Though sometimes Dunning will say odd things (once said a hamburger is a healthy meal, I guess if you use lean meat, whole wheat whole grain bun and veggies and the patty is baked rather than fried), but over all its pretty reasonable. Though the episode on Fracking feels really out of date because it ignores a lot of recent findings about the process.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
A burger is a healthy meal. Yes even a fast food burger there aren't magical bad food demons inside them.

A quart of soda and a pound of french fries with it isn't.

emgeejay
Dec 8, 2007

twistedmentat posted:

If you want to learn about conspiracies, I'd advise checking out Skeptoid. Each episode is 15 min or less, and does a pretty good job at summerizing each topic.

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4311
Rothschild episode

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4122
HAARP episode.

Though sometimes Dunning will say odd things (once said a hamburger is a healthy meal, I guess if you use lean meat, whole wheat whole grain bun and veggies and the patty is baked rather than fried), but over all its pretty reasonable. Though the episode on Fracking feels really out of date because it ignores a lot of recent findings about the process.
He also made 7 million dollars through wire fraud, but yeah, the podcast's not bad. Seems like it's been struggling for material in recent months, though.

Guy Montag
Jun 24, 2005

moller posted:

Yes, Paul Bennewitz intercepted the radio communications of a stellar traveller lady named Io and she explained the whole thing.

If you ever want to read up on an actual conspiracy, apparently the NSA and/or military counterintelligence took an interest in Bennewitz because part of his UFO research involved electronic and other monitoring of nearby facilities including nuclear weapons storage facilities. The guy was recording all kinds of radio traffic, taking video with telescopes, et cetera and they figured at first he was a spy masquerading as a UFO nut, so they started feeding him false information. Apparently at some point they figured out he was just a UFO researcher, and proceeded to gently caress with him, took it way too far, and he ended up killing himself.

And that disinfo, apart from his own mind, is the source of the 'Dulce base' stuff. Granted the account of this isn't of excellent provenance as those involved are obviously reticent to admit to driving a man to his death, but it at least has more basis than 'aliens have underground bases!' poo poo.

Hypation
Jul 11, 2013

The White Witch never knew what hit her.
OK. Who came up with the link between aliens and 9/11?

StrawmanUK
Aug 16, 2008

RagnarokAngel posted:

Eh, depends on what its used for. An eagle can see really far away in intense detail because it can move fast enough to catch a mouse on the ground. A human with the same skill wouldn't be quite as useful.

Full color vision has its perks tho.

As someone who has lost half his vision in one eye due to Glaucoma, I can confirm that "God" was really phoning it on that day!

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Hypation posted:

OK. Who came up with the link between aliens and 9/11?

The first alien believer who saw 9/11 happen. :rimshot:

Watermelon City
May 10, 2009

Hypation posted:

OK. Who came up with the link between aliens and 9/11?
Someone who was awake, man.

Lightning Jim
Nov 18, 2006

Just a mad weather-ologist :science:

Install Windows posted:

The first alien believer who saw 9/11 happen. :rimshot:

Yeah, pretty much.

That does remind me: the last Cosmos wants me to look into the whole Pleiadeans war thing in the New Age movement since that was entertaining back in the day

moller
Jan 10, 2007

Swan stole my music and framed me!
So I was google image searching something unrelated and I came across this great blog: http://www.abeldanger.net/2010/02/abel-danger-mischief-makers.html

Apparently a cadre of powerful women are using Matrix 5 man-in-the-middle pedophile villages to, uh, something. Also the British crown, jesuits, and encryption protocols for bridges are involved.

quote:



Samantha Cameron (nee ‘Snowy’ Sheffield)

[Revised June 15, 2012. Matrix 5 wife of the allegedly extorted man-in-the-middle Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, David Cameron; evidence she was in New York on 9/11 to arrange multicast of ITV/Carlton idents followed by Naudet Brothers’ snuff-film images relayed via Schroder Building #7; evidence her husband and fellow Bullingdon alumna synchronized ITV/Carlton idents with Schroders snuff film to associate ‘Pull it’ of WTC#7 with Twin Towers demolitions; evidence that City and Guilds (Settlement Movement) Livery Companies sent her to New York on Monday September 10, 2001 to prepare a Matrix 5 man-in-the-middle attack on that city’s 9-1-1 operators; evidence that NYC 9-1-1 operators were deceived by 9/11 bait and switch calls; evidence she arranged root authority needed by the Worshipful Company of Spectacle Makers to film the demolition of WTC#7 and thereby confirm the destruction of evidence of Clipper-chip backdoors into the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management; evidence she tried to establish an alibi for the production of VideoGuard snuff film images with the 9/11 Massive Attack group in New York with Hillary Clinton, Heather Mills and Sarah Ferguson; evidence she conspired with late Bullingdon Club alumnus and former U.K. Minister for War, Jack Profumo, in the use of Entrust public key infrastructure to conceal her Fag Mistress role during the pedophile man-in-the-middle propaganda attacks of 9/11; evidence she adapted a Matrix 5 pedophile-pimping strategy developed by her 17th century ancestor Nell Gwyn to procure VideoGuard-encrypted snuff-film images for the Treasury Solicitor to extort Livery Company support for 9/11 & 7/7 insurance frauds on Lloyd’s of London;



Michelle Obama (nee Robinson)

[Revised February 9, 2012: Matrix 5 principal and wife of allegedly-extorted man-in-the-middle Barack Obama, a Citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies and the 44th President of the United States; she allegedly procured DOJ Pride root authority for her lesbian associates in Illinois and SOS [Pedophile] Villages in Mexico to arrange Fast and Furious contract hits; she allegedly authorized Femme Comp’s use of Entrust PKI to buy alibis for Interpol or NATO Matrix 5 contract hits [...] she allegedly worked with terrorist mentor Bernardine Dohrn on the design of Greek Life oath taking involving late term abortion and pedophile traps; [...] he assigned her to build a Women @ Sidley group of lesbians and work on federal bridge encryption protocols stolen from Ron Brown’s office; he assigned her to work with lesbians in Kristine Marcy’s DOJ Pride to build iCAIR for Matrix 5 sabotage, assassination and virtual deception; he assigned her to work on IP and patent protection for Unabomb devices trademarked with initials ‘FC’ standing for Femme Comp Inc; he transferred her in 1991 to work as mayoral assistant with Valerie Jarrett, then chief of staff to Chicago Mayor Richard Daley and a target for SOS sextortion who ultimately handed control of the City to terrorists in the University Settlement Movement;



Lena E. Trudeau (nee SOS Children's Villages breeding station?)

[H]er alleged bisexual mentor and possible biological father was the sponsor of serial acts of political corruption including abolition of Grand Jury rights in Canada in 1984 and extortion of Privy Councilors into adopting the creed of ‘Guild of Pig Farm Socialism’; she allegedly placed a mail order for a severed head with Luka Magnotta through Canada Post;



Angelina Jolie (née Angelina Jolie Voight)

dreamed of becoming a funeral director; black clothing, purple hair; moshed with live-in boyfriend;


And on and on for pages.

Someone I linked to the blog told me that more recent stories discuss how Obama used remote control to fly the missing Malaysian airliner to the UK to drop off child pornography or something.

I do have to say that the web design is pretty restrained for this kind of nutter, I expect more animated gifs, blink tags, and scrolling really.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
That person must be legit schizophrenic or something :stare:

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004

Install Windows posted:

A burger is a healthy meal. Yes even a fast food burger there aren't magical bad food demons inside them.

A quart of soda and a pound of french fries with it isn't.

Pretty loving sure whatever was in that Big Mac that put me in hospital sluicing blood out both ends of me probably qualified as some sort of "food demon".

Not sure a big mac qualifies as a "burger" though. Shits all wrong yo.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

duck monster posted:

Pretty loving sure whatever was in that Big Mac that put me in hospital sluicing blood out both ends of me probably qualified as some sort of "food demon".

Not sure a big mac qualifies as a "burger" though. Shits all wrong yo.

That doesn't sound like a standard feature of the Big Mac.

Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

withak posted:

That doesn't sound like a standard feature of the Big Mac.

Yeah, normally it's poo poo coming out of at least one end of you.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

duck monster posted:

Pretty loving sure whatever was in that Big Mac that put me in hospital sluicing blood out both ends of me probably qualified as some sort of "food demon".

Not sure a big mac qualifies as a "burger" though. Shits all wrong yo.

Sounds like food poisoning. I had the same thing once, after eating at a VEGAN restaurant. That's more due to the fact the kitchen was super dirty and the staff were a bunch of dirty hippies (and i don't mean that in a comedic hyperbolic way, when the health department checked, they found the kitchen staff were unwashed, not wearing gloves or hairnets, and nothing was every wiped down).

I never got what exactly Dunning did that was wire fraud. From what I can tell, wire fraud is when you fake clicks on ads?

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



twistedmentat posted:

Sounds like food poisoning. I had the same thing once, after eating at a VEGAN restaurant. That's more due to the fact the kitchen was super dirty and the staff were a bunch of dirty hippies (and i don't mean that in a comedic hyperbolic way, when the health department checked, they found the kitchen staff were unwashed, not wearing gloves or hairnets, and nothing was every wiped down).

I never got what exactly Dunning did that was wire fraud. From what I can tell, wire fraud is when you fake clicks on ads?

Dirt is organic and natural, it can't possibly hurt you!

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

twistedmentat posted:

I never got what exactly Dunning did that was wire fraud. From what I can tell, wire fraud is when you fake clicks on ads?

Wire fraud is a catch-all federal crime where you use any communication medium (other than mail service) in the course of committing fraud, so the cookie stuffing is the fraud and the internet is the communication means, hence wire fraud.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Guy Montag posted:

If you ever want to read up on an actual conspiracy, apparently the NSA and/or military counterintelligence took an interest in Bennewitz because part of his UFO research involved electronic and other monitoring of nearby facilities including nuclear weapons storage facilities. The guy was recording all kinds of radio traffic, taking video with telescopes, et cetera and they figured at first he was a spy masquerading as a UFO nut, so they started feeding him false information. Apparently at some point they figured out he was just a UFO researcher, and proceeded to gently caress with him, took it way too far, and he ended up killing himself.

And that disinfo, apart from his own mind, is the source of the 'Dulce base' stuff. Granted the account of this isn't of excellent provenance as those involved are obviously reticent to admit to driving a man to his death, but it at least has more basis than 'aliens have underground bases!' poo poo.

I always assumed that what goes on at top secret military installations would probably be fairly boring compared to what has been cooked up on the internet or featured in tv/film.

"Oh yeah we totally have aliens, space craft, and the ark of the covenant hidden underground out in the american southwest.":jerkbag:

And then it's likely just then loving around with trying to come up with various military poo poo ala the B-2 Bomber.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

FuzzySkinner posted:

I always assumed that what goes on at top secret military installations would probably be fairly boring compared to what has been cooked up on the internet or featured in tv/film.

"Oh yeah we totally have aliens, space craft, and the ark of the covenant hidden underground out in the american southwest.":jerkbag:

And then it's likely just then loving around with trying to come up with various military poo poo ala the B-2 Bomber.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3622710

Big Hubris
Mar 8, 2011


Hypation posted:

OK. Who came up with the link between aliens and 9/11?

A Southern Baptist who doesn't believe in aliens.

Lightning Jim
Nov 18, 2006

Just a mad weather-ologist :science:
:smith:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/05/08/peace-sign-stolen-from-conn-playground-honoring-sandy-hook-victim-grace-mcdonnell/

quote:

Peace Sign Stolen From Conn. Playground Honoring Sandy Hook Victim Grace McDonnell

MYSTIC, Conn. (CBSNewYork/AP) — A 50-pound vinyl peace sign was stolen from a Mystic playground built in memory of one of the 20 children killed in the Sandy Hook school massacre.
The sign at the entrance to the Grace McDonnell playground was taken Tuesday.
William Lavin, who’s “Where Angels Play Foundation,” has been building playgrounds to honor all 26 victims, told The Day of New London McDonnell’s mother Lynn found out about the theft when the man who apparently took the sign called her.
The thief reportedly told McDonnell he stole the sign because he believes the shooting at the school was a hoax.
McDonnell was upset, and worried about how the theft might affect those who helped build the playground, Lavin said.
The foundation has ordered a replacement sign.

Crazy Sandy Hook truther steals the sign commemorating the park, and calls the parents to tell them they're liars. At least he didn't go after the parents directly...

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse
There's a special place in hell for these types of people...it's called LA, let the cops have at'im

Afraid of Audio
Oct 12, 2012

by exmarx

Lightning Jim posted:

:smith:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/05/08/peace-sign-stolen-from-conn-playground-honoring-sandy-hook-victim-grace-mcdonnell/


Crazy Sandy Hook truther steals the sign commemorating the park, and calls the parents to tell them they're liars. At least he didn't go after the parents directly...

A bunch of these "skeptics" also took to a Newtown School Board meeting to peddle their theories.

http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Newtown-school-board-greets-Sandy-Hook-skeptics-5458643.php

Tias
May 25, 2008

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On the subject of the Oklahoma satanist memorial, someone I know flipped his poo poo about how "those people" were all followers of Aleister Crowley (noted non-satanist, though people sure did accuse him for it in his time), and how Crowley had killed over 100 infants in his time. Of course, said someone is also a paranoid schizophreniac, so I just smiled and walked away.

Lightning Jim
Nov 18, 2006

Just a mad weather-ologist :science:

Tias posted:

On the subject of the Oklahoma satanist memorial, someone I know flipped his poo poo about how "those people" were all followers of Aleister Crowley (noted non-satanist, though people sure did accuse him for it in his time), and how Crowley had killed over 100 infants in his time. Of course, said someone is also a paranoid schizophreniac, so I just smiled and walked away.

I can't wait for the statue. Living in a neighboring town I virtually get front row seats to it. I bet the protests (if it happens) will be amusing as hell

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Lightning Jim posted:

:smith:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/05/08/peace-sign-stolen-from-conn-playground-honoring-sandy-hook-victim-grace-mcdonnell/


Crazy Sandy Hook truther steals the sign commemorating the park, and calls the parents to tell them they're liars. At least he didn't go after the parents directly...

There really needs to be a law that gives family members a free pass to go medieval on these kinds of people. Torment someone about how their kid's murder was a hoax? You have to run a gauntlet comprised of the victims' family members.

Hypation
Jul 11, 2013

The White Witch never knew what hit her.
It seems this thread is going places now. Not good places but going places.

Aliens, 9/11, paedophile connection. I'd propose a new hypothesis but my Markov Chain generator is broken. So I propose we call in Gene Ray to arbitrate instead.

Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul
I have a friend who thinks he is quite conservative. He's not, but he'll die before he'll admit it. He parrots the republican party line and spits their talking points word-for-word (I swear to God he once told me, "Freedom isn't free."), but little of it lines up with his personal beliefs or his actions. It's weird.

Anyway, when we were first becoming friends, he said something along the lines of, "Don't tell me you believe that stupid stuff about Bush being behind 9/11." Apparently, he thinks this is something that all liberals believe. I told him, no, I thought that theory was loving stupid. I also told him I think Bush utterly failed to stop 9/11, and that it wasn't the completely random, unforeseeable event some people want to pretend it was. For the most part, we agreed that conspiracy theories of that type are generally stupid and without merit. On culpability, we agreed to disagree, because of course any blame for the Bush administration is too much blame.

Fast-forward to the Sandy Hook event. Now, it's all, "Man, this is pretty suspicious. Do you think it really happened? Obama's been trying to take our guns. This is another excuse to disarm us." For some strange reason, the prevailing conspiracy, at least the one he brought to me, was about the event being faked. I point out that there's an entire loving town full of people that knew the victims. I asked him to explain how they fake an event like this when thousands of people live, work, and pass through the area on a daily basis. How do you get an entire town to play along? How do you invent kids that never existed then kill them off with no one noticing? What about the school records, government assistance roles, driver's licenses, and birth certificates? Who are all these parents and grandparents we're seeing in the news? He reluctantly agreed in a "Yeah, I guess" kind of way, but I don't think he was ever fully convinced.

He was also completely convinced that Obama ordered 600 gazillion bullets for the military to keep private citizens from being able to buy ammunition.

Lightning Jim
Nov 18, 2006

Just a mad weather-ologist :science:

Centripetal Horse posted:

I have a friend who thinks he is quite conservative. He's not, but he'll die before he'll admit it. He parrots the republican party line and spits their talking points word-for-word (I swear to God he once told me, "Freedom isn't free."), but little of it lines up with his personal beliefs or his actions. It's weird.

Anyway, when we were first becoming friends, he said something along the lines of, "Don't tell me you believe that stupid stuff about Bush being behind 9/11." Apparently, he thinks this is something that all liberals believe. I told him, no, I thought that theory was loving stupid. I also told him I think Bush utterly failed to stop 9/11, and that it wasn't the completely random, unforeseeable event some people want to pretend it was. For the most part, we agreed that conspiracy theories of that type are generally stupid and without merit. On culpability, we agreed to disagree, because of course any blame for the Bush administration is too much blame.

Fast-forward to the Sandy Hook event. Now, it's all, "Man, this is pretty suspicious. Do you think it really happened? Obama's been trying to take our guns. This is another excuse to disarm us." For some strange reason, the prevailing conspiracy, at least the one he brought to me, was about the event being faked. I point out that there's an entire loving town full of people that knew the victims. I asked him to explain how they fake an event like this when thousands of people live, work, and pass through the area on a daily basis. How do you get an entire town to play along? How do you invent kids that never existed then kill them off with no one noticing? What about the school records, government assistance roles, driver's licenses, and birth certificates? Who are all these parents and grandparents we're seeing in the news? He reluctantly agreed in a "Yeah, I guess" kind of way, but I don't think he was ever fully convinced.

He was also completely convinced that Obama ordered 600 gazillion bullets for the military to keep private citizens from being able to buy ammunition.

I think that ties into the general mindset: they want to believe so hard what they think that they forgo critical thinking.

I have a friend that on the Bible said that there are values from it he "has yet to internalize". So essentially he had views that contradicted yet he forced out his reading of the Bible instead of his own personal views. I heard last summer he actually was one of those doomsayer campus preachers. :(

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse
Not 9/11 related, but I can remember from back at my days working McDonalds, we had big 75 gallon tanks downstairs that were full of coke syrup. When one would empty we'd order another that would show up with the rest of the delivery. They had a tank on board the semi that they hook up to a compressor, then run a hose from it down to ours so as their tank pressurizes it pushes the syrup through the hose. Had a guy come in one day and he watched as we unraveled the hose and took it down to hook up and start pumping. About half way through he walks over and says in an irate voice "Don't try to hide it, I know what that is, that's the mind control stuff you put in the food". After a few moments of me and the truck driver staring I told him it was just coke syrup, he was welcome to try it if he was really that concerned. I even explained to him how the system works, his response; "That's all bullshit, I know you put that stuff in food to brainwash people to eat here, and now I have proof".
Dunno what ever came of him, I was waiting for something to come about from it so I could finally die happy as I laughed myself off

Thomas13206
Jun 18, 2013
Guys, guys, guys...



Alex Jones has a male enhancement drink.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.

pd187 posted:

Guys, guys, guys...



Alex Jones has a male enhancement drink.

I wonder how much he sells through his online dating site?


Edit: holy poo poo look at the reviews on Amazon, I can't tell if they're real or fake but either way they're hilarious.

platedlizard fucked around with this message at 07:53 on May 14, 2014

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Tias
May 25, 2008

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"Combined with the nascent iodine, this is powerful medicine!"

Indeed! :bravo:

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