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The Ass Stooge
Nov 9, 2012

a hunger uncurbed
by nature's calling
On the topic of notifications, what's the deal with this poo poo?



This started appearing a few days ago. I have rich notifications turned off in chrome://flags, and if I turn them back on this little weather thing stops appearing, but the notifications bell icon, with all its attendant poo poo (which I also don't want or need), shows up in my system tray again. The wrench icon in the weather notification opens a menu that includes an option called "Disable," which as far as I can tell has no effect. It seems like Google is absolutely determined to show me that it knows what the temperature is in any way possible, regardless of how my settings are configured. Is there a way to get rid of ALL of these notifications? This seems like a ridiculous question and I'm pretty irritated that I have to ask it at all.

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crestfallen
Aug 2, 2009

Hi.
Google Now is integrated with Chrome now (I think) so if you have an Android phone and you're signed into your Google account in Chrome, that might be why.

No, I'm not sure.

xarph
Jun 18, 2001


Ctrl-f for google now in chrome://flags and disable it. Do the same thing with rich notifications.

Then prepare to switch to another browser, because if recent history is any indication then you can kiss both of those flags goodbye in Chrome 35.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
I have a question about chromecast apologies if this isn't the correct thread (I did skim for one).

Can I use my pc too stream the signal too it via a wireless internet adapter like http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIGIFLEX-Wi...=pc+wifi+dongle ? Or am I misunderstanding how these things work? It would be out of range of the router.

e- thanks

Jippa fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Apr 9, 2014

z06ck
Dec 22, 2010

Jippa posted:

I have a question about chromecast apologies if this isn't the correct thread (I did skim for one).

Can I use my pc too stream the signal too it via a wireless internet adapter like http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIGIFLEX-Wi...=pc+wifi+dongle ? Or am I misunderstanding how these things work? It would be out of range of the router.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3561652

The Ass Stooge
Nov 9, 2012

a hunger uncurbed
by nature's calling

xarph posted:

Ctrl-f for google now in chrome://flags and disable it. Do the same thing with rich notifications.

Then prepare to switch to another browser, because if recent history is any indication then you can kiss both of those flags goodbye in Chrome 35.

Thanks, I didn't realize Google Now notifications had their own flag.

Generic Monk
Oct 31, 2011

I installed a bunch of helvetica fonts recently and it seems to have hosed some pages on chrome (most noticeably tumblr and wikipedia):

(Left: IE, Right: Chrome)
My guess is that these webpages default to using helvetica if it's available locally (which it wasn't until recently) but chrome seems to utterly fail at rendering it while IE does a decent job. Any way to fix/improve this beyond removing all the fonts I just installed?

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
If you update to the Chrome 35 beta and go to about://flags to turn DirectWrite on, it actually works now! Hooray, better fonts!

Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot

flatluigi posted:

If you update to the Chrome 35 beta and go to about ://flags to turn DirectWrite on, it actually works now! Hooray, better fonts!

Can you explain how this changes things for the average user? I've never seen DirectWrite so I don't know what to compare it to.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
You know how fonts in IE10/11 look? Kinda like that.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
So instead of the crisp fonts we're used to, we'll get strangely fuzzy ones that are harder to read and seem differently rendered than any other text used in Windows?

I guess we'll adapt, but IE font rendering really seems like a step backwards.

Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Apr 14, 2014

Generic Monk
Oct 31, 2011

flatluigi posted:

If you update to the Chrome 35 beta and go to about ://flags to turn DirectWrite on, it actually works now! Hooray, better fonts!

DirectWrite isn't part of the main version yet? I remember people complaining about that back in like 2012, they took their time.

Fame Douglas posted:

So instead of the crisp fonts we're used to, we'll get strangely fuzzy ones that are harder to read and seem differently rendered than any other text used in Windows?

I guess we'll adapt, but IE font rendering really seems like a step backwards.

It's not perfect by any means, still needs to catch up to Apple's rendering. I'll download the beta and see if I can fiddle with the windows font settings a bit - not that there's much point since I ended up removing the fonts anyway because as you say they're just barely acceptable even on IE. I think the ones I downloaded were meant for macs or something and anything except the apple rendering just makes them look odd at best and unreadable at worst.

Generic Monk fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Apr 14, 2014

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Apple and MS have different approaches to font rendering. Apple wants them to look as good as they would printed and MS only cares about looking good on the screen.

biznatchio
Mar 31, 2001


Buglord

Riso posted:

Apple and MS have different approaches to font rendering. Apple wants them to look as good as they would printed and MS only cares about looking good on the screen.

To dig into this in a little more detail:

Apple's approach, which was actually much harder to read for a very long time, ends up being more vindicated with each passing year as more devices come out with higher DPI displays. They've always rendered the text true to the font, whether or not it matched up well with on screen pixels; an approach that was very consistent, but on low DPI displayed people complained it looked "blurry".

Microsoft's approach made for much more readable text on low DPI displays (like the typical desktop monitor), by tweaking letters at lower sizes so they'd align better with the display's pixel grid and by making use of the display's subpixels for more precise rendering (ClearType). That decision is why Windows has a hard time on high-DPI displays, because that tweaking changes the metrics of the font, so when the target DPI scaled up or down, the size of the text doesn't scale smoothly (individual letters get wider or narrower at a different rate than the actual DPI scaling so they can continue to fit cleanly to the pixel grid) and as a result stuff starts getting clipped off, or overlapping.

DirectWrite is Microsoft's way of splitting the difference. They still try to align to the pixel grid, but not at the expense of proper scaling. As a result, text tends to render a little more "blurry" like what Apple's rendering looks like on low DPI displays, but not to the same extent. DirectWrite is also faster, as it takes advantage of GPU acceleration; and it has much improved support for rendering international Unicode constructs and for fonts that have ligatures (things like "fi" rendering as a single glyph).

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Fame Douglas posted:

So instead of the crisp fonts we're used to, we'll get strangely fuzzy ones that are harder to read and seem differently rendered than any other text used in Windows?

I guess we'll adapt, but IE font rendering really seems like a step backwards.

This looks crisp?

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Maybe unfuck your computer?



biznatchio posted:

DirectWrite is Microsoft's way of splitting the difference. They still try to align to the pixel grid, but not at the expense of proper scaling. As a result, text tends to render a little more "blurry" like what Apple's rendering looks like on low DPI displays, but not to the same extent. DirectWrite is also faster, as it takes advantage of GPU acceleration; and it has much improved support for rendering international Unicode constructs and for fonts that have ligatures (things like "fi" rendering as a single glyph).

So DirectWrite with display optimized alignment would probably be the preferred way and Chrome is actually getting worse font rendering in the near future.

Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Apr 14, 2014

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Fame Douglas posted:

Maybe unfuck your computer?




So DirectWrite with display optimized alignment would probably be the preferred way and Chrome is actually getting worse font rendering in the near future.

this bug is what I was referring to, which is what switching to directwrite is fixing.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

hifi posted:

this bug is what I was referring to, which is what switching to directwrite is fixing.

I see. I like the sound of GPU acceleration, but with text display worsening in most cases that really lessens the appeal. Guess we'll live with it.

Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Apr 14, 2014

Great Enoch
Mar 23, 2011
The empirical foundation for a lot of typographiy politics is quite shaky, but my take is that the Apple approach is more justified for linear, long-form reading(especially with the advent of high-DPI, although I don't agree that screen typography should directly imitate print) and possibly word-processing, and the windows way tends to be more appropriate for those doing stuff like coding. I know reading a whole load of poo poo is still quite a niche use for a browser but I'm glad for this development.

Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot

Great Enoch posted:

I know reading a whole load of poo poo is still quite a niche use for a browser

It's really not, as reading on the computer screen is replacing and has replaced a lot of need for printed paper both in the workplace and for leisure.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Michael Scott posted:

It's really not, as reading on the computer screen is replacing and has replaced a lot of need for printed paper both in the workplace and for leisure.

I think it was a joke about how most people use browsers for porn and FarmVille. And, for a joke in kind, shouldn't you be extolling the virtues of the printed word?

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!




Anyone else getting SA scrollbar oddities with the latest chrome beta?

Its particularly noticeable on the forum select in the bottom left, and moving the scrollbar doesnt actually scroll the list

Only registered members can see post attachments!

Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva

Skarsnik posted:

Anyone else getting SA scrollbar oddities with the latest chrome beta?

Its particularly noticeable on the forum select in the bottom left, and moving the scrollbar doesnt actually scroll the list



Getting that too, and not just on SA but on any website featuring a scrolling dropdown. The selections refresh when you mouseover them though, but it's still annoying.

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

Smoke posted:

Getting that too, and not just on SA but on any website featuring a scrolling dropdown. The selections refresh when you mouseover them though, but it's still annoying.

Yeah, I've got this at work too on our timekeeping system.

They can build a goddamn self-driving car, but UI elements seem to elude them.

Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva
It should be fixed again with the latest update, got it yesterday. Sometimes I wonder how these things slip through.

Ashex
Jun 25, 2007

These pipes are cleeeean!!!
Is there a non-hangouts extension for google talk? Switched to Google Apps at work and they have hangouts disabled so I can't even use the basic chat function of the hangouts extension.

mcbexx
Jul 4, 2004

British dentistry is
not on trial here!



Where did the Smooth Scrolling in Chrome go?

I updated from Win7 to 8.1 today (clean install) and the option for smooth scrolling from the chrome://flags page now is "linux only"? Huh?

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud
Did adblock plus stop working for anyone else on the newest beta?

e: Closing chrome and restarting didn't work. I guess removing adblock plus and reinstalling it worked. Weird.

Fozzy The Bear fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Apr 28, 2014

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


It's not you and it's not beta; for whatever reason, for me, AdBlock Plus forgot all its subscriptions on Stable.

Yes, that workaround you posted worked to get ad-blocking back, but it's not a long-term solution.

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

Sir Unimaginative posted:

It's not you and it's not beta; for whatever reason, for me, AdBlock Plus forgot all its subscriptions on Stable.

Yes, that workaround you posted worked to get ad-blocking back, but it's not a long-term solution.

Adblock Plus stopped updating for me and I switched to Adblock and its worked great and kept the filters updated.

John Capslocke
Jun 5, 2007
Lately, I've really been questioning the changes Google is implementing to Chrome. The latest: beta/dev/canary hide the full URL of a site, it just shows the root domain and you have to click on it to expose the full path, it's like they want it to be easier to phish slow people. At least you can disable it with with a flag.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

37th Chamber posted:

Lately, I've really been questioning the changes Google is implementing to Chrome. The latest: beta/dev/canary hide the full URL of a site, it just shows the root domain and you have to click on it to expose the full path, it's like they want it to be easier to phish slow people. At least you can disable it with with a flag.



How exactly would you exploit that?

crestfallen
Aug 2, 2009

Hi.
According to one of the chrome devs, it's not going out to everyone on the beta branch, only a small number of them. They're checking for a few key metrics like reductions in phishing and probably some other stuff like increased use of search. It was a comment on HN, I think.

Pros and cons. I don't like it either. But lots of people just type in facebook, get the Google search, and click the first thing anyway. In a lot of cases (not all) that's probably not bad since a mistyped URL can cause serious damage if the phisher did a good job. Search results aren't always correct either though.

Who knows!

wanda
Dec 8, 2010

They'll arse about with the address bar but I still don't have a flag to turn off the lovely download shelf. Why Google? Why must you keep the one annoying UI element?

Fart of Presto
Feb 9, 2001
Clapping Larry

wanda posted:

They'll arse about with the address bar but I still don't have a flag to turn off the lovely download shelf. Why Google? Why must you keep the one annoying UI element?

Have you tried Always Clear Downloads?
I really missed this feature from when I used Firefox (I think it was called Download Bar), and two years ago, this small extension popped up.

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic
Lately, the Chrome beta for Windows has started randomly not rendering random characters. The space is there for them, but the character itself is missing. I assume it has something to do with the recent addition of DirectWrite, but it can make reviewing JSON returned from a server especially difficult, as it seems to also happen in the developer tools as well.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

Blue Moonlight posted:

Lately, the Chrome beta for Windows has started randomly not rendering random characters. The space is there for them, but the character itself is missing. I assume it has something to do with the recent addition of DirectWrite, but it can make reviewing JSON returned from a server especially difficult, as it seems to also happen in the developer tools as well.

I had this happen, and I can confirm it went away when I turned off DirectWrite.

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

The Lord Bude posted:

I had this happen, and I can confirm it went away when I turned off DirectWrite.

Sounds like I know what I'm doing on Monday morning!

I bet the technical reason for that bug is just fascinating. :suspense:

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

Blue Moonlight posted:

Sounds like I know what I'm doing on Monday morning!

I bet the technical reason for that bug is just fascinating. :suspense:

Well to be fair the stuff under chrome:flags is experimental. Us tech savvy folk are the guinea pigs. Nobody would have encountered this bug if they hadn't specifically gone into the experimental options to turn on DirectWrite, and I doubt the average person knows they exist.

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Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Has anyone else lost the ability to fullscreen embedded youtube videos? For a while it was iffy, sometimes there and sometimes not and now for the last few weeks there hasn't been the option at all, I have to go to youtube to actually watch something fullscreen. I guess its time for the extension on/off troubleshooting dance.

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