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Are white Republicans more racist than White Democrats? http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-republicans-more-racist-than-white-democrats/ Kind of, yea but not by much. More importantly there seems to be a large group of white people who are comfortable being racist in dog whistle terms "hard working" vs "lazy" but are less interested in overt racism like being unwilling to vote for a black politician. Also while all of it has improved drastically since 1990 it appears to have ground to a halt since '08. It hasn't worsened, just stalled.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Are white Republicans more racist than White Democrats? Saw this study, and it made me weep. I guess the only way to get past the race problem is really to fall off the demographic cliff or whatever it's being called this week. I'd hoped that the Democrats would have managed to convince some people that race is a dead concept, but I guess there's not much that can be done about the issue at all. rkajdi fucked around with this message at 13:04 on May 4, 2014 |
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rkajdi posted:Saw this study, and it made me weep. I guess the only way to get past the race problem is really to fall off the demographic cliff or whatever it's being called this week. My Father in law is a perfect example of that. He's in his 60's, a democrat, is active in his union, so on and so forth. Loves racist jokes and calling black people 'illiterate porch monkeys', and obama is the 'chief coon'. But as he said "I voted for the chief coon over the mormon, because you can't trust a mormon." 
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May 4, 2014 13:04
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Capfalcon posted:So... Metal Gear? I would pay a lot of money to see a really serious political drama with utterly absurd plot elements in the vein of MGS.
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Ah catching up on this thread...SedanChair posted:nothing short of 100% is acceptable, and 100% is impossible.  You heard it here folks, we can't let people depend on any weapon that's not 100% reliable! Guns can misfire, ban all guns. Only self-defense swords are reliable enough for home defense.
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Given that the switchover for racists was only really completed in 1994 (at least at the party level) and there are still red presidential states that are controlled by Democrats at the state level (Kentucky, West Virginia, until recently North Carolina) I don't think it's really surprising that a bunch of white people that are still registered for the Democrats would still be horribly racist.
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VitalSigns posted:Only self-defense swords are reliable enough for home defense. Is there any chance this sword could become brittle and break?
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Putin It In Mah rear end posted:Is there any chance this sword could become brittle and break? Not on your life, my Hindu friend! -Wait, sorry. Wrong bit. I was too enthusiastic, my bad.
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Unless sedan chair has no understanding of technology, he would be perfectly able to understand that rfid failure would be far less likely than the gun itself, considering both best and worst conditions.
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May 4, 2014 15:56
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We getting back into this? I like it.
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Whoever it was that compared Cliven Bundy to a warlord appears to have hit the nail on the head. (via digby)quote:Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie has been negotiating behind the scenes with rancher Cliven Bundy for a couple of years. On the morning of the big showdown, he and Joe Lombardo drove to Bunkerville to let Bundy know that a deal had been reached with Bureau of Land Management to suspend the roundup of Bundy's cattle.
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Hedera Helix posted:Whoever it was that compared Cliven Bundy to a warlord appears to have hit the nail on the head. (via digby) jesus christ, what a bunch of loons.
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Hedera Helix posted:Whoever it was that compared Cliven Bundy to a warlord appears to have hit the nail on the head. (via digby) I love the last few lines, pretty much confirming what everyone with a brain has suspected: the law enforcement agencies know that they, people who are still pulling in regular paychecks, can afford to be much more patient then a bunch of old men doing nothing more than sitting out in the sun, drinking beer and waving guns about.
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At this point, you have to figure Bundy knows that the moment those loons with guns leave, he's spending a very long time in jail, right?
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I like the part where someone in the crowd compares the BLM to "the SS squad, or something to do with Hitler". Like he can't be bothered to come up with an actual analogy.
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Mark Callahan, a Portland republican running for the U.S. Senate, was kicked out of an endorsement interview. He's very upset.
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May 4, 2014 17:36
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Hmm, they'll turn this to a Waco yet. Waco had lots of militia spectators too, including one Timothy McVeigh.
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The cops have plenty of time, I'd think the big concern is the hotheads working themselves up into shooting first. Attacking journalists and ordering the sheriff to seize federal weapons and "report back" doesn't sound like they're calming down.
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Joel McHale dropped a lot of serious truth bombs from the drone strike express last night. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adZLY7gzwxg
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more friedman units posted:The cops have plenty of time, I'd think the big concern is the hotheads working themselves up into shooting first. Attacking journalists and ordering the sheriff to seize federal weapons and "report back" doesn't sound like they're calming down. That was done right when the BLM was backing down, if I'm recalling this correctly. Bundy was riding high and figured he could issue some more demands while he had the guns and numbers. Not sure if he really believed it would work or not--he was probably showboating.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Are white Republicans more racist than White Democrats?
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Hedera Helix posted:Whoever it was that compared Cliven Bundy to a warlord appears to have hit the nail on the head. (via digby) ok this poo poo is starting to anger and scare me. I understand the feds are trying to wait these assholes out, but at this rate they will start killing people for being "feds". Its obvious they are worried about disloyalty in the ranks, so i assume some purity tests will start soon, which is kinda of worrisome.
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RevKrule posted:Joel McHale dropped a lot of serious truth bombs from the drone strike express last night. "C-SPAN is like Paranormal Activity movies. Grainy shots of empty rooms interrupted by shots of people you're pretty sure died years ago."  Looks like he did great.
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Mo_Steel posted:"C-SPAN is like Paranormal Activity movies. Grainy shots of empty rooms interrupted by shots of people you're pretty sure died years ago." "As it stands right now, the Republican presidential nominee will either be Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, or a bag of flour with Ronald Reagan's face drawn on it."
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AnemicChipmunk posted:Mark Callahan, a Portland republican running for the U.S. Senate, was kicked out of an endorsement interview. He's very upset. Watch the video embedded in the article, it's hilarious.
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pengun101 posted:ok this poo poo is starting to anger and scare me. I understand the feds are trying to wait these assholes out, but at this rate they will start killing people for being "feds". Its obvious they are worried about disloyalty in the ranks, so i assume some purity tests will start soon, which is kinda of worrisome.
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any chance if bundy and his band of wackos gets violent, sean hannity, rush limbaugh and the other cast of far right wing media wonks can be indited for inciting?
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Cimber posted:any chance if bundy and his band of wackos gets violent, sean hannity, rush limbaugh and the other cast of far right wing media wonks can be indited for inciting?
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Cimber posted:any chance if bundy and his band of wackos gets violent, sean hannity, rush limbaugh and the other cast of far right wing media wonks can be indited for inciting? Of course not. 
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pengun101 posted:ok this poo poo is starting to anger and scare me. I understand the feds are trying to wait these assholes out, but at this rate they will start killing people for being "feds". Its obvious they are worried about disloyalty in the ranks, so i assume some purity tests will start soon, which is kinda of worrisome. It's pretty clear that the feds are playing the long game at this point. They're building up their case and have almost assuredly infiltrated the militia groups to get information on everyone there. Like that old joke, the last 2 militia members on the site are going to be 2 federal agents from different departments each reporting on the actions of the other. I'm still unsure whether this is the best option since letting someone set up their own little fiefdom in bumfuck Nevada for any length of time sets a bad precedent, but I'm not the one who would be tasked with dispersing a bunch of heavily armed crazy people, so I'm not big on armchair generaling the situation. Not to mention any attempt like that would go badly somehow and shift the whole focus of this story in an election year.
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Actually the best option was and still is to Waco the fuckers.
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Nonsense posted:Actually the best option was and still is to Waco the fuckers. Child-murder ftw
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The Feds will (and should) keep waiting them out. Because summer is coming and when it gets to be 115 out there many of them will find someplace else to be. Nevada scrub desert is miserable poo poo in the heat.
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VitalSigns posted:Child-murder ftw At least they're not trying to use their kids as human shields yet. Wait, is there a better term than "human shields" for when you want the other guys to shoot them?
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Watching the Correspondents' Dinner, I liked Obama's little involuntary snicker after he slammed Fox News. Probably the highlight for me.
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VitalSigns posted:Child-murder ftw Get 'em while they're young, I say.
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SubponticatePoster posted:Nevada You had a couple factual errors there, I went ahead and corrected them, buddy. Seriously, though, loving Nevada, of all places, seems the most poo poo-awful place for anti-government rebellion, particularly Southern Nevada. If you're going to have a Nevada fiefdom, why not Tahoe, at least?
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