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RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer
I know it's a bad idea really but part of me wants a drone to fly over one of those Bundy ranch checkpoints. All of these Freepers firing in the air to shoot it down would be a funny sight. Of course it would just solidify their position that the government will try to Hellfire them and I'm pretty sure the ATF or BLM don't operate any drones or at least not that kind.

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woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
I think an F/A-18 flyover at 200 feet would be more appropriate although they'd probably be like "whoo hoo Oath Keepers!"

PYF Bundy suppression porn

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos
Just leak that FEMA is making the Bundy ranch a new camp/burial site to, you know, save on transportation costs.

kik2dagroin
Mar 23, 2007

Use the anger. Use it.
Hell, just drive 4 vans with FEMA spray painted on them by the ranch and they'll probably lose their poo poo.

Post 9-11 User
Apr 14, 2010

FRINGE posted:

I dont see another rightwing thread anymore, so I guess this can go here for (predictable) comedy.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/03/anti-gay-nc-gop-candidate-outed-as-former-female-impersonator-miss-mona-sinclair/

Is there a single one that isn't a closet case?



SedanChair posted:

I think I know what you are trying to say but this is a dangerous mindset. Many people are killed with rimfires every year. A .22 LR bullet will kill you super, super dead.

I guess you haven't talked to as many dipshits walking around with hand cannons thinking they're useful for something other than over-penetrating the target and multiple bystanders. :sigh: They are still dangerous but I said relatively difficult, less mass, less trauma, et cetera.

Post 9-11 User fucked around with this message at 17:09 on May 5, 2014

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
I'm still really sad I don't have the time or means to drive through all the Bundy taliban crews check points dressed as a new conservative boogeyman everyday. One day you go through as a muslim in a van with arabic on the side, the next day it's a lowrider with a bunch of black single moms done up like it's Friday night on the strip, the next you sail a gay float through with John Waters.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

kik2dagroin posted:

Hell, just drive 4 vans with FEMA spray painted on them by the ranch and they'll probably lose their poo poo.

This is pretty true. I'm sure those guys need no excuse to shoot someone/something and the longer it goes on the itchier those trigger fingers will get. Plus, there will be the one guy who doesn't have any job or life outside the checkpoint who wants to start something before the other guys want to head home to air conditioning and a shower.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

I'm still really sad I don't have the time or means to drive through all the Bundy taliban crews check points dressed as a new conservative boogeyman everyday. One day you go through as a muslim in a van with arabic on the side, the next day it's a lowrider with a bunch of black single moms done up like it's Friday night on the strip, the next you sail a gay float through with John Waters.

I'd only consider this if I were bulletproof.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
You guys are some crazy motherfuckers.

I'd get the autonomous Google car, put that poo poo in a van, and then set the coordinates to one of the checkpoints.

I'm not itching to become perforated for some odd reason.

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.
Trolling with drones. What better options is there?

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

kik2dagroin posted:

Hell, just drive 4 vans with FEMA spray painted on them by the ranch and they'll probably lose their poo poo.
2 FEMA vans and 2 vans painted sky-blue with UN stenciled on the sides.

LCL-Dead
Apr 22, 2014

Grimey Drawer

The Ape of Naples posted:

I know it's a bad idea really but part of me wants a drone to fly over one of those Bundy ranch checkpoints. All of these Freepers firing in the air to shoot it down would be a funny sight. Of course it would just solidify their position that the government will try to Hellfire them and I'm pretty sure the ATF or BLM don't operate any drones or at least not that kind.

They do. ;)

I would just use a smaller drone at a lower altitude to play with their spacial reasoning a bit. Nobody would ever hit it because they'd grossly overestimate the size and therefore the altitude of the craft.

Drone's are kinda my thing. ;) For the last two years I've been an instructor/operator for the USGov on a couple of different (small) platforms.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

anonumos posted:

Trolling with drones. What better options is there?

Drones would be perfect

queertea
Jun 4, 2013

Not Fade Away

Post 9-11 User posted:

Is there a single one that isn't a closet case?
Can we please not do this? Like, ever?

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

LCL-Dead posted:

While your ability to quote wikipedia is great, you should pay a little more attention to what exactly it is that you're quoting.

The drone featured in that particular scene of the movie is not an MQ-9 Reaper, it's an MQ-1 Predator, the Reaper's older brother.
They have similar ceilings.

quote:

Also, while these aircraft are capable of flight at 50,000 MSL (or Mean Sea Level/distance above sea level) operations are generally conducted at 10,000 AGL (Above Ground Level/Actual Ground level) due to the camera's in the payload not actually being able to pick out targets on thermal beyond 10,000', actual mission profiles are usually much lower due to thermal or IR footage being one of the most often used and best method for identifying/finding targets.
The tallest mountain in the US is Mt. McKinley. It is 20,000 feet above the ground. This allows the drone to go to 10,000 feet above the mountain, be under it's ceiling, and still 4600 feet outside the range of whatever rifle you bought.

quote:

I'm not debating a shooter's ability to hit a moving drone at any altitude. Even the best marksmen in the world would be hard pressed to pull off such a feat more than once in their lifetime (and likely with a metric gently caress-ton of luck) but the drone inaccuracies I have to point out.
What did I say that was in accurate? Predator B's are being phased out, I said the video was about a belief, that you could shoot down a drone. You can't.

quote:

However, there are other ways to handle a drone in flight. You only need about $80 worth of parts from radio shack and a laptop to handle most drones. Iran's got it down.
Talk about drone inaccuracies! 2004 called, it wants its countermeasures back!

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

The Ape of Naples posted:


I'd only consider this if I were bulletproof.


They don't have the balls, otherwise we'd already be hearing about a shootout rather than a bunch of namby pamby crying to the local sherrif that Johnny Fed yelled at me. That's their stated number one enemy who they all threw mcveigh-a-palooza for, they came face to face, and they didn't do poo poo. They were saved from a "complete and thorough embarrassment" by a BLM public relations official, not "a deadly shootout to the last man". On a good day they'd maybe have 1-2 members squeeze off a nervous shot and immediately after you'd have a clown show of oath keeper blowhards tackling eachother and crying about how they just falsed a flag. One of the reasons the whole "embedded agitators" and "false flag!" poo poo is so pervasive in that set is that it's an excuse for their complete cowardice. People who actually itch for a fight aren't sitting at home dreaming up convoluted conspiracies about how their enemies wish they would start a fight and how they bravely refuse to do so.

If you really need insurance just make it obvious you're recording the whole thing.

Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 17:50 on May 5, 2014

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

kik2dagroin posted:

Hell, just drive 4 vans with FEMA spray painted on them by the ranch and they'll probably lose their poo poo.

FMguru posted:

2 FEMA vans and 2 vans painted sky-blue with UN stenciled on the sides.
I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to do any of this.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Post 9-11 User posted:

Is there a single one that isn't a closet case?

Pretty sure if you were involved with the Miss Gay America pageant you're not in the closet any more.

http://www.journalnow.com/news/local/gop-candidate-was-once-a-female-impersonator/article_a1029862-5a82-5752-90e4-eac7155bce1e.html

quote:

In the political arena, Wiles has changed political affiliation from Democrat to unaffiliated to Republican since 2008, according to public voter records, confirmed by Wiles.

Records show that he voted in the 2008 Democratic presidential primary that featured candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Four years later, the Journal reported, Wiles stumped in 2012 for the constitutional amendment, passed in a statewide referendum, reinforcing a state law banning same-sex marriage.

“Why is it even an issue?” he asked, referring to questions about his time at Club Odyssey and the amendment.

Anyone with an Internet connection could have speculated that Wiles was a female impersonator.

An online search for “Steven Wiles” and “Belews Creek,” the place he lists as his town of residence in campaign filings, turns up a link to the Miss Gay America website.

Within the website, a webpage with Wiles’ name has been taken offline but the cached version was still accessible this week. The webpage lists a Steven Wiles as Mona Sinclair. It says he lives in Belews Creek and that he was a promoter of Miss Gay Eastern States America and a promoter for Miss Gay North Carolina America.

The webpage also says that Wiles was suspended for “conduct unbecoming to a promoter of the Miss Gay America pageant system,” according to the webpage, without providing more information. Larry Tyger, a co-owner of the Miss Gay America pageant, said in a telephone interview that he does not discuss suspensions.

The content of that webpage has provided fodder for a political attack ad on a social-media website.

Last year, as Wiles was considering a run for a county commissioner seat, Scott Cumbie, the chairman of the Forsyth Republican Party, asked Wiles whether he was Mona Sinclair, according to Wiles and Cumbie.

Wiles denied it, both Cumbie and Wiles said about two weeks ago.

“It’s not just about lifestyle. It’s about credibility,” Cumbie said.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
If I lived nearby and was still a dumb teen I'd likely try to sneak close to the Bundy ranch a nigh and set off a whole bunch of fireworks to see who would run for the hills and who would start spraying and praying.

Prepping talk aside, I wonder how such insular, rabid tribal people would react to a less extreme, prolongued crysis, such as, say, an economic crash on the level of 1929.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Someone give Larry Tyger the award for most ethical man in America. At least the most ethical gay man.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

FMguru posted:

2 FEMA vans and 2 vans painted sky-blue with UN stenciled on the sides.

Oooh. How about an all black helicopter. That'll get the hive humming.

But really though the best thing to do is to keep an eye on them but leave them be. They just wasting their time, money and resources and while maybe some of them will be emboldened by this they're will be others who just remember standing around in the desert in body armor for an "enemy" that never came.

LCL-Dead
Apr 22, 2014

Grimey Drawer

HootTheOwl posted:

They have similar ceilings.

The tallest mountain in the US is Mt. McKinley. It is 20,000 feet above the ground. This allows the drone to go to 10,000 feet above the mountain, be under it's ceiling, and still 4600 feet outside the range of whatever rifle you bought.

What did I say that was in accurate? Predator B's are being phased out, I said the video was about a belief, that you could shoot down a drone. You can't.

Talk about drone inaccuracies! 2004 called, it wants its countermeasures back!

The innaccuracies on your end involved a lack of knowledge concerning normal operating altitudes.

I never tried to prove or back the thought that people could, in fact, shoot down a drone. I simply pointed out that a government agency, or even a civilian, flying the Reaper/Predator over anything wouldn't do so at an altitude that would render their hopes of actually pinpointing a man sized target null and void.

Inaccuracies? It's my job to know these things. Forgive me if you can't handle a simple correction.

Mormon Star Wars
Aug 13, 2005
It's a minotaur race...

Intel&Sebastian posted:

They don't have the balls, otherwise we'd already be hearing about a shootout rather than a bunch of namby pamby crying to the local sherrif that Johnny Fed yelled at me. That's their stated number one enemy who they all threw mcveigh-a-palooza for, they came face to face, and they didn't do poo poo. They were saved from a "complete and thorough embarrassment" by a BLM public relations official, not "a deadly shootout to the last man". On a good day they'd maybe have 1-2 members squeeze off a nervous shot and immediately after you'd have a clown show of oath keeper blowhards tackling eachother and crying about how they just falsed a flag. One of the reasons the whole "embedded agitators" and "false flag!" poo poo is so pervasive in that set is that it's an excuse for their complete cowardice. People who actually itch for a fight aren't sitting at home dreaming up convoluted conspiracies about how their enemies wish they would start a fight and how they bravely refuse to do so.

If you really need insurance just make it obvious you're recording the whole thing.

The Oath Keepers have already left after several of their members were assaulted by members of the other militias. The only ones left are the serious ones that are willing to do poo poo.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Mormon Star Wars posted:

The Oath Keepers have already left after several of their members were assaulted by members of the other militias. The only ones left are the serious ones that are willing to do poo poo.

Citation needed.

They've had plenty of chances, what's the hold up?

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Citation needed.

They've had plenty of chances, what's the hold up?

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/05/militiamen-and-oath-keepers-drew-weapons

quote:

The situation at the Bundy Ranch, where armed militiamen and “Patriots” are camped out, has deteriorated so badly that competing factions apparently drew weapons on one another during heated arguments.

We wrote on Wednesday about how tensions flared when a paranoid rumor of an imminent drone strike on the encampment began circulating. The team that primarily circulated the drone-strike rumor – Stewart Rhodes’ Oath Keepers – also began advising people to pull out, which sparked the wrath of militiamen.

Those militiamen voted to oust the Oath Keepers, and a couple even spoke of shooting Rhodes and his men in the back, which they deemed the proper battlefield treatment of “deserters”.

Now Rhodes has replied to their accusations in a video in which he teamed up with fellow Oath Keepers Steve Homan, Robert Casillas and Brandon Ropolla (the latter of whom are also affiliated with Mike Vanderboegh’s so-called “III Percent” movement) to attack the “nutcases” that Rhodes said have assumed control of the militia camp at the Bundy Ranch.

Rhodes painted an unflattering portrait of volatile “crazies” at the camp. Most strikingly, Rhodes described some of the threats of violence that have bubbled up to the surface at the camp:

quote:

RHODES: Now, when [John] Bidler was dropped on his butt– John Bidler– another guy — some Mountain Man militia guy, put his hand on his gun and said, “I dare ya to draw — draw motherfucker, I’m gonna kill ya.” I’m sorry to cuss but that’s what he said. So they were being threatened. Guys with hands on their guns threatening them. That’s why we told them to get out of there. We knew the situation was this close from being a gunfight, right there inside the camp.
Rhodes later described another close call when guns were drawn and people very nearly shot:

quote:

RHODES: And this is the tip of the iceberg of the cluster out there. One of our guys from Montana, Rick Delap, who was there from the beginning — he’s been out there for two weeks in the dirt – the day of this confrontation, I come to find out he had to draw on somebody. Two of the Mountain Men guys came up to him — were aggressing on him. Then one of them ran back to his vehicle and grabbed an AR and came back with an AR in his hand and Rick had to draw on him. And those two ran off. That was this close from Rick having to shoot that ding-a-ling. If that guy had raised his barrel, Rick would have had no choice but to shoot him.

TeamSarah4Choice at Daily Kos has been closely monitoring the videos emerging from the scene in Nevada and promptly posted the video with transcripts. As she points out, there was actual violence at the camp when angry young men knocked two elderly veterans, including Steve Homan, to the ground. Homan described it:

quote:

HOMAN: Well, like I said, there was quite a few people comin’ in to CP [the “command post”] in order to get more information – ‘cuz we were trying to get ‘em out. A couple of trucks drove into the yard, and guys started jumping out, and I could see right away when they were getting out of the truck they were very agitated. We had one of the men run out toward our car. I was standing in front of one of our cars. John Bidler, the Connecticut [Oath Keepers] president, was standing over by the driver’s door. The gentleman came and he, uh, all of a sudden the gentleman started running toward me and hit me right in the chest with his forearm and, uh, put me down.

RHODES: That was Jack, that’s one of Jerry DeLamus’ guys from New Hampshire. That’s who did that. Dropped you in the dirt right?

HOMAN: He dropped me down and he immediately went to John Bidler and, uh, basically done the same. He just physically threw him to the ground.

anonumos fucked around with this message at 18:31 on May 5, 2014

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Citation needed.

They've had plenty of chances, what's the hold up?

Lack of targets. Without any visible government presence or media attention (which vanished when Bundy started holding forth on what he knew of those shiftless blacks) all that they're getting is bored, sunburned, and thinking about all of those hours they're missing at their jobs. The cops will wait until it's just Bundy and a half-dozen die-hards before they swoop in to arrest the lot of them.

The militia nuts fighting with each other is pretty great all things considered; some of the summer soldier-types will become disillusioned and never get involved in this stupid poo poo again, and the rest will hold grudges and bad feelings and not want to do this sort of poo poo again.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

fade5 posted:

"Preppers" are the guys who are prepared for the full-out collapse of the Government, a Chinese invasion, the coming race war, the Mayan 2012 apocalypse, really, just pick an apocalypse scenario that's gotta be coming any day now.

The difference between you and a "prepper" is that you're prepared for a natural disaster, which has a reasonable chance of actually happening, especially since you said you live in earthquake country. Also, your plan is to survive until (Governmental!) relief can be sent in and eventually get back to your normal life. That idea is complete anathema to "preppers".

I'll be blunt, I've never understood the "prepper" mindset, because I wouldn't want to survive an apocalypse that has no chance of a return to "normal life". You can rebuild after an earthquake, but not after the things these guys fantasize about happening.

Yeah, sounds like what I do during hurricane/tornado season. Buy some MREs, bottled water, batteries, and trash bags and stash them in the closet just in case.

Mormon Star Wars
Aug 13, 2005
It's a minotaur race...

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Citation needed.

They've had plenty of chances, what's the hold up?

Same interview:

quote:

HOMAN: Well, like I said, there was quite a few people comin’ in to CP [the “command post”] in order to get more information – ‘cuz we were trying to get ‘em out. A couple of trucks drove into the yard, and guys started jumping out, and I could see right away when they were getting out of the truck they were very agitated. We had one of the men run out toward our car. I was standing in front of one of our cars. John Bidler, the Connecticut [Oath Keepers] president, was standing over by the driver’s door. The gentleman came and he, uh, all of a sudden the gentleman started running toward me and hit me right in the chest with his forearm and, uh, put me down.

RHODES: That was Jack, that’s one of Jerry DeLamus’ guys from New Hampshire. That’s who did that. Dropped you in the dirt right?

HOMAN: He dropped me down and he immediately went to John Bidler and, uh, basically done the same. He just physically threw him to the ground.

They also poured lighter fluid around the local CBS affiliates van and have blocked off public roads. Reports from the town mentioned them threatening to drag hotel employees out in the streets and shoot them if they didn't force people the militia thought were BLM to leave. As much as everyone likes to pretend that it's a bunch of freepers and that they won't harm nuffin' the freepers have left, in part because they were scared of the majority who stayed.

8 News Now

quote:

One Mesquite city leader said the entire Holiday Inn Express was evacuated for hours following a bomb threat related to the Bundy saga more than two weeks ago.

8 News NOW obtained a police report which also shows the hotel received at least nine threatening phone calls in April, after they allowed BLM rangers to stay in the hotel.

Workers were told to kick out the BLM or they "would not be standing in the morning."

One Mesquite hotel worker, who didn't want to go on camera, said he was told by an anonymous militia member that he would be "dragged out in the parking lot and shot".

8 News Now

quote:

They were equally hostile to journalists covering the story. Pistol-packing militia men have blocked 8 News NOW's access to public roads. Some poured lighter fluid around our news vehicle while others got physical.

Mormon Star Wars fucked around with this message at 18:39 on May 5, 2014

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

This is beautiful, hell the govt should do this once a year to round up insane people.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Mormon Star Wars posted:

Same interview:


They also poured lighter fluid around the local CBS affiliates van and have blocked off public roads. Reports from the town mentioned them threatening to drag hotel employees out in the streets and shoot them if they didn't force people the militia thought were BLM to leave. As much as everyone likes to pretend that it's a bunch of freepers and that they won't harm nuffin' the freepers have left, in part because they were scared of the majority who stayed.

8 News Now


8 News Now

A dark part me wants them to just start trying to round people up or try to take over a neighboring small town. I mean gently caress they are almost executing people now. where are the cops?

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 18:50 on May 5, 2014

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
I appreciate the posts but I'm still only seeing a lot of dick waving and no indications that anyone there is willing to get rough with anyone but another militia man dickhead. There's obviously varying degrees of cowardice and craziness going on but I still say their train left the station when the BLM decided to let them play soldier mans in the Nevada desert. They're pissed because the moment they've wrote troves about finally came and every one of them to a man chickened out.

A freeper being scared away from their stated convictions happens everyday in basements around America, the fact that it happened at the gathering-of-juggalos-parents doesn't really strike fear into my heart.

Edit: Even when they're only dealing with eachother all this heated poo poo boils down to a pushing match and various buttholes saying "I'm gonna shoot you on the count of three! One! Two! Two and a half! Two and three quarters! Two and five sixths!!!!" ... "Ohhhh man I was sooooooooo close to shooting that guy, dude totally if he would've moved another inch. LUCKY HIM!" :mad:

Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 19:06 on May 5, 2014

Mormon Star Wars
Aug 13, 2005
It's a minotaur race...

pengun101 posted:

A dark part me wants them to just start trying to round people up or try to take over a neighboring small town. I mean gently caress they are almost executing people now. where are the cops?

Maybe doing something about it would be easier if the militias didn't have high level supporters in the state:

A Sitting US Senator From Nevada posted:

What Sen. Reid may call domestic terrorists, I call patriots,” Heller said. “We have a very different view on this."

Wait sorry, that was before the racist rant.

An Active Senator Clarifying His Remarks posted:

The senator added that about “80 percent” of the protesters were “people I called patriots,” but there were “some bad apples in there, bad actors, no doubt.”

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
I don't disagree with the Senator, he's free to call them what he wants just like Harry Reid is. I disagree with the idea that as long as your intentions are right with the country you're allowed to do whatever the gently caress you want. Yeah they are patriots. They're lawless, stupid, paper tiger patriots whose rage very coincidentally only bubbled when the president was a black Democrat.

:patriot:

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun
People need to stop using the 'bad apples' metaphor. I mean, come on, the rest of the saying is '...spoils the whole bunch.'

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

People need to stop using the 'bad apples' metaphor. I mean, come on, the rest of the saying is '...spoils the whole bunch.'

The FDA banned the rest of that saying in 2005 citing a Monsanto study.


I'm guessing you guys would know...is the Yankee Marshal guy who (I would assume) pays a bunch to have his conserva-vlog posts promoted on Youtube for real? I watched like 2 of them thinking it was a parody but it seemed way to dry to be a big joke.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

People need to stop using the 'bad apples' metaphor. I mean, come on, the rest of the saying is '...spoils the whole bunch.'

I could care less.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

People need to stop using the 'bad apples' metaphor. I mean, come on, the rest of the saying is '...spoils the whole bunch.'

Since I've heard that saying as both "a few bad apples spoil the bunch" and "a few bad apples don't spoil the bunch," I find myself wondering--what happens with actual apples?

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Chantilly Say posted:

Since I've heard that saying as both "a few bad apples spoil the bunch" and "a few bad apples don't spoil the bunch," I find myself wondering--what happens with actual apples?

Like most forms of rot and decay, it indeed can spread to objects next to it.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Chantilly Say posted:

Since I've heard that saying as both "a few bad apples spoil the bunch" and "a few bad apples don't spoil the bunch," I find myself wondering--what happens with actual apples?

Apples, as do many other agricultural goods, tend to be stored in batches from the same crop, or at least same source, such that they tend to decay from the same point of freshness at the same rate. Also rot indicates the presence of organisms consuming some portions of the apple, which would then by their nature spread to other nearby apples.

A few bad apples doesn't spoil the bunch seems to argue against sympathetic magic, in that apples from a 'tainted' batch are not necessarily bad themselves simply because of their proximity to bad apples. Removing bad apples from the bunch would help in preserving the remainder, but ultimately the entire system is corrupt and decyaing and needs to be periodically replaced smash the system full communism now

boner confessor fucked around with this message at 19:24 on May 5, 2014

thefncrow
Mar 14, 2001

Chantilly Say posted:

Since I've heard that saying as both "a few bad apples spoil the bunch" and "a few bad apples don't spoil the bunch," I find myself wondering--what happens with actual apples?

The former. As apples ripen and eventually rot, they release increasing amounts of ethylene gas, which causes apples to ripen and eventually rot. If you leave a bad apple in a bunch with a vast majority of good apples, the bad apple accelerates the ripening of all other apples. If it's not taken care of, that one rotten apple will cause more rotten apples, which accelerate the ripening procedure even more, until what you're left with is a barrel of apples that are all bad.

thefncrow fucked around with this message at 20:30 on May 5, 2014

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woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Install Windows posted:

I could care less.

Heh.

I think this one is a little more revealing of what the national character has become, though.

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