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BiggerBoat posted:Your posts are strange. If I page back 10 pages or so, you were more or less calling out everyone who would listen for doing exactly what you're doing here. I don't disagree with you, but you're being very inconsistent with your selective outrage. mr. mephistopheles posted:Yeah SedanChair seems to have reverted to his old self. I don't know if he was trolling recently or his usual posting is trolling or what. I noticed the change too. How meta of y'all.
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It kills me when the right talks about the perils of groupthink when they have an organized billion-dollar media industry dedicated to misinforming and brainwashing low-information voters. It's like all they do is say NUH-UH NO U. Also I'm going to be that goon who points out that Kool-Aid wasn't used at Jonestown but the National Review is poo poo and conservatives never concern themselves with "history" and "facts" anyhow. edit quote:the trappings of being a cult that preyed on impressionable and vulnerable people run by a single person who fostered a fear of outsiders Hazo fucked around with this message at 22:27 on May 6, 2014 |
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Hazo posted:It kills me when the right talks about the perils of groupthink when they have an organized billion-dollar media industry dedicated to misinforming and brainwashing low-information voters. It's like all they do is say NUH-UH NO U. Yeah, we've talked plenty about how the right's entire strategy, literally the whole loving thing, is just projection. It's really the perfect strategy because it simultaneously attacks your opponent and inherently deflects any potential criticism.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Yeah, we've talked plenty about how the right's entire strategy, literally the whole loving thing, is just projection. It's really the perfect strategy because it simultaneously attacks your opponent and inherently deflects any potential criticism. If it wasn't a strategy, they'd do it anyway. They don't really believe in democracy, so they're always the first to abuse and pollute its institutions. They don't really believe in debate, and they get murderously mad when someone uses superior command of language to dance around them. So they gotta poo poo all over the process, so as to drag things down and back into their wheelhouse of nastiness. The right's participation in debate is always contingent and cynical, since they have a basic and historical distrust of the process.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Yeah, we've talked plenty about how the right's entire strategy, literally the whole loving thing, is just projection. It's really the perfect strategy because it simultaneously attacks your opponent and inherently deflects any potential criticism. It's pretty funny when somebody in real life says "Democrats are the real racists" and you ask "why" and they literally cannot remember why. They don't remember a single talking point, like "Robert Byrd was in the Klan" or "Southern racists were Democrat" or "welfare is worse than the plantation!" They literally only remember the first part.
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SedanChair posted:It's pretty funny when somebody in real life says "Democrats are the real racists" and you ask "why" and they literally cannot remember why. They don't remember a single talking point, like "Robert Byrd was in the Klan" or "Southern racists were Democrat" or "welfare is worse than the plantation!" They literally only remember the first part. I like doing these guys jobs for them. Democrats are the real racists since by talking about racism you are forcing the issue, digging up old tension between the races, and making new racism out of thin air.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:It's incredibly telling and lame that people who do poo poo like this and then hide behind the flag think their intentions weren't obvious to everyone. These are the kind of people who's parents took them at their word all through their childhood no matter what. I don't think it's meant to fool anyone but themselves. The far right so discredited racism in the 20th Century that it's no longer a badge of pride for (almost) everyone, and for their own self-esteem conservatives seize on flimsy excuses like patriotism to convince themselves they don't hate Mexicans, they just love America soooooo much Much like how "homophobe" has become toxic rather than boastful, so they have to call their new Gay-Jim-Crow laws they try to pass "religious freedom". I don't hate gays (God bless 'em), I'm just tooooooo pious and Christian to allow those filthy faggots in my bakery!
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That's probably most of them but there do seem to be people who genuinely don't understand that you can't really declare yourself innocent via semantics when we've got video of you looking pissed as gently caress while screaming USA in someones face. They think it's like the blue collar equivalent of saying you were taken out of context where you call SHENANIGANS and all of a sudden the burden of proof is magically on everyone to produce evidence you weren't actually full of loving patriotic pride (or religious fervor) at the time instead of hate. It's a lovely issue because there's a very large grey area like that California teen who got poo poo from their school for wearing a flag shirt last year, but there are more and more people all the time who stray out of that area and still think they're covered by the ambiguity...despite making absolutely zero effort to hide their actual intentions. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 23:21 on May 6, 2014 |
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Intel&Sebastian posted:They think it's like the blue collar equivalent of saying you were taken out of context where you call SHENANIGANS and all of a sudden the burden of proof is magically on everyone to produce evidence you weren't actually full of loving patriotic pride (or religious fervor) at the time instead of hate. I think you've just described Chief Justice John Roberts' legal theory. "You can't prove the Voter ID and Paper Bag Test Act is motivated by racial animus, despite the dissent's racist and hurtful arguments. This court finds that the Act is merely meant to safeguard the electoral process by disenfranchising Democracts, which is a totally fine thing to do, so we must assume that the barring of all nonwhite voters is merely regrettable side effect. Any suggestion otherwise is just a mean, mean mean, thing to say. Mean. It is so ordered"
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VitalSigns posted:I think you've just described Chief Justice John Roberts' legal theory. To me it's a microcosm of the shittiest parts of the GOP today. It's a big group of intellectually soft and lazy bigots and terrible people who grew up in an era where their type ruled everything, and got away clean with bigotry, sexism, racism and homophobia as long as they adhered to certain codewords and left the breathless hate to the fringe. Now they're openly wondering why they even need to do that (partly because the fringe is mainstream now). They want the cake, they want to eat it, and they want it to be a crime for someone to say they ate it. And there's next to zero self-consciousness of the fact that we can all see what's going on. You might as well be the guy with Tennis Elbow telling me how that means you have a legit need for 150 dollars worth of Medical Marijuana every week. No one buys that your (now openly and widely stated) desire to say "friend of the family" whenever you want stems from some heartfelt desire to walk hand and hand into the brave new world where everyone is equal and we all laugh about the quaint old names we used to try to hurt eachother with over BBQ. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 23:25 on May 6, 2014 |
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poor nose posted:Everybody shut the gently caress up about who Rush fucks and start talking about how he was trying to skirt around the Rob Ford Rehab facility story. I enjoyed because it almost seemed like Rush was projecting himself onto another Fat White personality who the media wouldn't give a break too. quote:RUSH: Did you know, folks, that the mayor of Toronto was turned away from the United States? This is Rob Ford. The mayor of Toronto finally admitted that he might have a problem. He said he did drugs when he drank, so he had to stop drinking. Anyway, they finally got to him. He said he had a problem, and was gonna go to rehab. Forget about that fact that Obama has deported more illegals than Bush ever did! Like that bolded snipe at global warming? He spent about an hour on this very topic! quote:RUSH: McLean, Virginia. Mike, welcome to the program, sir. Great to have you. quote:RUSH: Fred in Memphis. It's great to have you, sir. Hello. quote:RUSH: Bill in Huntsville, Alabama, you're next. It's great to have you with us, sir. Hello. Actually half of his program was climate science denial quote:RUSH: In the meantime, I have a huge, huge See, I Told You So opportunity here combined with the latest pivot and announcement from the White House yesterday. They've dropped everything now. They've dropped Benghazi, they've dropped everything, and they're moving forward (once again) on climate change/global warming. quote:RUSH: Let us review how the left has attempted to corral people to agree with them and sweep them up into this political movement that's called climate change. It used to be called global warming, and then when the warming stopped they had to change the term. The main technique that they've used is fear combined with guilt, and it has worked well. They have approached people, not directly, but in the form of just everyday news stories, blog posts, movies, cartoon shows, television shows. quote:RUSH: Now, one more thing about our previous caller, Kevin from Attica, Ohio. He made a really good point, folks. Do you remember, you Baby Boomers out there, when we were kids, there were two things, really, that I recall. The nuclear -- can I admit something to you? I never got afraid of it. I thought people with the bomb shelters were, you know, kind of, "Come on." Especially ducking. I was always a smart aleck malcontent and I remember telling teachers, "Are you really telling me if a nuclear bomb goes off that this desk is gonna protect me?" But still we had to do the drills and get under. I was never afraid of it. Was Rush Limbaugh in reality making GBS threads his pants like everyone else at the prospect of nuclear war with the Soviets? I'll let you decide.
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That's a hilarious bunch of caller plants and climate change denialism bullshit (I liked the part where the guy was getting to the point that climate change was "political" because Republicans made it that way to protect their industry kickbacks and that yes, there are alternatives to oil, and Rush just cut the transcript), but I'm still stuck on how the gently caress this happened in the first paragraph: quote:"He was last seen boarding a private plane bound for Chicago. But US Customs officials say he never formally entered the country, withdrew his application and turned the plane around. Neither his brother Doug Ford or lawyer Dennis Morris will say where exactly he is, but maintain he is in rehab as promised." But it's not that. He "never formally entered the country." He was turned away, according to Canada's journalists at the Globe & Mail.
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"Climate Scientists are just in it for the money! Their insatiable greed drives them to bash noble public servants like oil executives!" will never be not hilarious to me. NSF research grants, that's where the big money's at!
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Yeah the logic in that section was pretty abstract. He somehow gets proof of his conspiracy based on a couple of vague lawerly statements that say absolutely nothing about this climate change blacklist or whatever the gently caress he's going on about.
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Rush has crossed the line. What the gently caress is wrong with Captain Planet??
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Boywhiz88 posted:Rush has crossed the line. What the gently caress is wrong with Captain Planet?? It was terrible and had episodes like the one where they praised One Child Policy type things. Ted Turner is a legitimate crazy human being.
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I have a drinking problem but I already care about climate change. Is there any hope for me, in Obama's America?
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Well played!
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Boywhiz88 posted:Rush has crossed the line. What the gently caress is wrong with Captain Planet?? Everything. It had likely the worst written villains of all times. It's one thing if you're a greedy rear end in a top hat businessman polluting the local river because you're trying to make a profit. That makes sense and is something that happens in the real world. Quite the other to have a person that seemingly gets off from it, and it actually causes you to lose money in the process. I can't recall the article, but it was pretty much a group of economists mocking the entire idea. I seem to recall Ted Turner cancelling Swat Kats in favorite of it, but my memory could be fuzzy about it.
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FuzzySkinner posted:I seem to recall Ted Turner cancelling Swat Kats in favorite of it, but my memory could be fuzzy about it. My inner ten-year-old just died inside.
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FuzzySkinner posted:It's one thing if you're a greedy rear end in a top hat businessman polluting the local river because you're trying to make a profit. That makes sense and is something that happens in the real world.
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what the gently caress is wrong with you (not you, VitalSigns) That's someone else's tire fire and not one that he actually made himself, right?
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FuzzySkinner posted:
Captain Planet ran 1990-1996, Swat Kats only ran in 1993.
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FuzzySkinner posted:Everything. All I can picture for this now.
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Install Windows posted:Captain Planet ran 1990-1996, Swat Kats only ran in 1993. I think the line was something to the effect of him going "We don't run violent cartoons like that ONE SHOW on our TV Network".
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StandardVC10 posted:what the gently caress is wrong with you
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OAquinas posted:All I can picture for this now. All you should need to know about Turner is he did multiple episodes about how overpopulation is dooming us all and you know gee whiz maybe the One Child policy is smart to do, and he has like five or six kids of his own. He's basically the cartoon villain he thinks literally everyone but him is, the poors and minorities can be controlled but it's cool for him to do as he needs.
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So, I think at this point I'm supposed to raise my fists upward, shake them at the sky and yell with liberal fury, "drat YOU EDGY TWITTER TROLL"?
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That's not conservative at all. Those are perfectly good tires that could go towards the trans-border tire field, which could be protecting us from illegals and bolstering our dwindling snake habitat.
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A Song of ICE and Tire remains one of the funniest things ever, thank you for reminding me of it.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Yeah the logic in that section was pretty abstract. He somehow gets proof of his conspiracy based on a couple of vague lawerly statements that say absolutely nothing about this climate change blacklist or whatever the gently caress he's going on about. I'm still curious what exact ulterior motive Rush and his cronies think the left has for promoting environmental and resource conservation. Of course the right has a reason (monetary kickbacks, campaign donors from destructive companies, cronyism, etc.) but they never can explain how "hey let's maybe let our grandkids know what fishing is" is a leftist controversial political issue.
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quote:RUSH: Let me tell you something. This is another thing, Bill. After Hurricane Katrina, the global warming scaremonger crowd predicted Katrinas all the time now. Every hurricane was gonna be one, and it was all because of global warming. And I remember the guy, Max, whatever his name was, couldn't remember his last name, running the hurricane center kept saying, "No, it has nothing to do with global warming." And nobody was paying any attention to him 'cause he wasn't following suit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Sandy He must've forgot about the one that flooded lower Manhattan and triggered a total re-zoning of the East coast shoreline?
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eggyolk posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Sandy In fairness that's more due to a cycle that predates a lot of the global warming stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Multidecadal_Oscillation Not that he'd know that, of course.
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Well, Captain Planet is no worse than christian indoctrination kids shows at least. Yeah Ted Turner is nuts but so is literally associated with the right
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I'm not sad to have missed the bulk of Limbaugh sex chat, but reading how abrasive he sounds in the transcripts, even when someone is agreeing with him, really makes me wonder about his failed marriages. I'm curious if there's more to any of them than "I thought marrying a fat disgusting rear end in a top hat wouldn't be so bad since at least he's still a millionaire, but I didn't take into account how much of a fat disgusting rear end in a top hat someone could be." I'm not even talking about partisan politics here, he just seems like he'd be a genuinely unpleasant person to be around even if you agreed with him on everything.
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Wolfsheim posted:I'm not sad to have missed the bulk of Limbaugh sex chat, but reading how abrasive he sounds in the transcripts, even when someone is agreeing with him, really makes me wonder about his failed marriages. I'm curious if there's more to any of them than "I thought marrying a fat disgusting rear end in a top hat wouldn't be so bad since at least he's still a millionaire, but I didn't take into account how much of a fat disgusting rear end in a top hat someone could be." I'm not even talking about partisan politics here, he just seems like he'd be a genuinely unpleasant person to be around even if you agreed with him on everything. I've had the misfortune of having a friend who was an unrepentant addict; to be more specific, an eating disorder. He reminds me of Limbaugh in his demeanor and appearance more than anybody else I've ever met. I think this is the source of his popularity too, in that he epitomizes the current state of modern greed and corruption, for the demographic that used to be called the "me generation." He's a super-wealthy addict who can afford to stay that way the rest of his life, whose daily existence is literally a struggle to rationalize his own behavior in the face of overwhelming, obvious facts and evidence, as obvious as the fact that can't see his own dick when he urinates because of his bloated gut. That buzzword that went around a few weeks ago, "affluenza" couldn't have a better face than Rush Limbaugh.
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SnakePlissken posted:That buzzword that went around a few weeks ago, "affluenza" couldn't have a better face than Rush Limbaugh. Maybe you're just leaving out the obvious but you know that "Affluenza" has an all but literal poster child right? The 1%er kid, Ethan Couch, who killed 4 people while drunk driving whose lawyers actually used that term (and the idea that his incredible richness made him unaware of the consequences of his actions) to get his sentence down to 10 years probation and a harrowing stint in a sunny resort rehab spa? Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 17:14 on May 7, 2014 |
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So Bill Nye is at it again, apparently, smacking around Sippy Cupp on Crossfire? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06v1dQj9foU
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Wolfsheim posted:I'm not sad to have missed the bulk of Limbaugh sex chat, but reading how abrasive he sounds in the transcripts, even when someone is agreeing with him, really makes me wonder about his failed marriages. I'm curious if there's more to any of them than "I thought marrying a fat disgusting rear end in a top hat wouldn't be so bad since at least he's still a millionaire, but I didn't take into account how much of a fat disgusting rear end in a top hat someone could be." I'm not even talking about partisan politics here, he just seems like he'd be a genuinely unpleasant person to be around even if you agreed with him on everything. There's no evidence that he ever talks (or listens) any other way than he does on his show. He is Rush, at all times. Well, on his show he probably doesn't handcuff you to his bedpost and demand that you eat cottage cheese from his mammary creases.
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