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I'm probably using the word wrong, but I'm nonplussed about Ganke. He's a necessary sounding board for Miles. I dont l Ike him, but I don't hate him. He's basically Foggy if Miles was the new Daredevil instead of Spider-Man.
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Fat friend, yes. Funny, no. But if Ganke works for you, I can agree to disagree. To me, even his role as sounding board seems diminished by Jessica Drew, MJ, and everyone else on the team. They're all young heroes with reservations about being heroes in the first place. It ties into the bigger problem of Miles being slotted in to Peter's supporting cast for the most part. His mom's dead, his dad is AWOL, his uncle was bad news and is dead, and all your left with is, ...
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May 7, 2014 04:59
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Yeah its really hard to get out of a character shadow when your supporting cast is his basically.
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May 7, 2014 05:04
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Ganke is Miles's Foggy Nelson. He'd be more useful if Miles wasn't rapidly developing a massive supporting cast, though.
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May 7, 2014 06:37
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I don't dislike Ganke but I don't really like him either. He just sort of exists.
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May 7, 2014 09:29
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ImpAtom posted:I don't dislike Ganke but I don't really like him either. He just sort of exists.
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May 7, 2014 09:46
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I've lapsed on Ultimate Spidey due to all the crossover nonsense. Anything ever come with that fan theory that Ganke is in the closet?
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May 7, 2014 10:57
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The fact that he has crushes on girls and keeps commenting on which girl he thinks is hot I would say no.
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May 7, 2014 11:03
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Lurdiak posted:I've lapsed on Ultimate Spidey due to all the crossover nonsense. Anything ever come with that fan theory that Ganke is in the closet? There's been a few jokes about Miles' dad mistaking Miles/Ganke for a couple but nothing serious about it. fake edit: Just read the issue. They loving did it. 
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May 7, 2014 11:05
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Waterhaul posted:The fact that he has crushes on girls and keeps commenting on which girl he thinks is hot I would say no.
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May 7, 2014 13:17
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Endless Mike posted:Because no child struggling with his or her sexuality has overcompensated. But nothing has shown him struggling? The thinking he's gay seems like fan wishing rather than anything that's actually been shown in the books. And I think just throwing in a surprise he's gay out of nowhere later would be pretty dumb. Him being Miles' Foggy is probably the best example. And since the book is out Peter very clearly isn't back and it's just a fake out by the Chameleon. Waterhaul fucked around with this message at 13:33 on May 7, 2014 |
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May 7, 2014 13:25
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Lurdiak posted:I've lapsed on Ultimate Spidey due to all the crossover nonsense. Anything ever come with that fan theory that Ganke is in the closet? I thought they came out and said it explicitly? I can't remember what issue though.
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May 7, 2014 14:32
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Senor Candle posted:I thought they came out and said it explicitly? I can't remember what issue though. Someone (Miles' dad?) said they thought Miles and Ganke were a couple.
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May 7, 2014 14:55
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Yeah that's just the same kind of dumb joke/comment that was made in 616 when Aunt May found out about Peter and was all "oh I thought you were hiding something in the closet but never that it was a Spider-Man costume".
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May 7, 2014 15:04
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Waterhaul posted:But nothing has shown him struggling? The thinking he's gay seems like fan wishing rather than anything that's actually been shown in the books. And I think just throwing in a surprise he's gay out of nowhere later would be pretty dumb. Him being Miles' Foggy is probably the best example.
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May 7, 2014 15:51
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Endless Mike posted:I don't disagree with you in the least. There's been no indications that Ganke is gay. My point was mostly that showing interest towards the opposite sex doesn't really preclude it.
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May 7, 2014 16:02
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The best joke was Miles realizing Ganke's right that Dagger is hot. David draws the best faces.
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So, even as a cover, does it make sense that Peter would be in Miles' apartment picking stuff up? Miles got his gear from Fury, right? Does he have Peter's old webshooters or am I remembering that wrong? Also, how do the Chameleons know Miles is Spider-Man or where Miles lives?
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Inkspot posted:So, even as a cover, does it make sense that Peter would be in Miles' apartment picking stuff up? Miles got his gear from Fury, right? Does he have Peter's old webshooters or am I remembering that wrong? Also, how do the Chameleons know Miles is Spider-Man or where Miles lives? He does have Peter's web shooters. The last question will be answered by the arc. They did know Peter was Spider-Man, and that mystery person watching them all from the bushes in 200 could have been one of them and put it together.
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May 8, 2014 01:55
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Argh. That makes total sense. I should start reading all the Ultimate books twice before posting. Or just not read them at all. But then I'd miss Fiffe's mainstream debut and Ultimate Crossbones.
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May 8, 2014 02:24
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I saw a theory somewhere online that it's a clone with Doc Ock's memories implanted. Dumb theory, but I would laugh my rear end off if that was true. (Of course it isn't, though, right?)
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May 8, 2014 02:26
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I read the new Miles Morales Ultimate Spider-Man; I liked it (except for the final page, I hope it's a mislead), but I felt I've missed a LOT of what was going on in the Ultimate Universe, since I dropped the book in the Venom arc. Can someone summarize what's been going on in Miles Morales life?
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May 8, 2014 02:44
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Myrddin Emrys posted:I saw a theory somewhere online that it's a clone with Doc Ock's memories implanted. Dumb theory, but I would laugh my rear end off if that was true. (Of course it isn't, though, right?) "I will become a Superior Spider-Man...The Ultimate Superior Spider-Man!"
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Inkspot posted:Also, how do the Chameleons know Miles is Spider-Man or where Miles lives? Miles mentioned he goes to his apartment every single day, so I guess them stalking for a little while would lead to figuring out where to meet him.
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May 8, 2014 02:49
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Flameingblack posted:Then why bring it up at all? It was a one-off joke that was supposed to be a one-off joke. Kate Bishop also asked Miles if he realized that Ganke had a thing for him in issue 25:  It got brushed off as a gag, but I kinda liked the idea of the overweight kid carrying a torch for his friend. It was sweet, and took out the creep factor that a lot of "sidekick"-type roles have in comics (at least they're age appropriate). Linking this to the latest issue: quote:David draws the best faces.
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May 8, 2014 02:59
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There's no way the last page reveal is what it seems. On the other hand, Norman escaping is the kinda poo poo I would expect Fury to be on top of but then I remember SHIELD is no more soooo who exactly is dealing with poo poo like this now?
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:There's no way the last page reveal is what it seems. Remember, never trust the two C's-Covers and Cliffhangers-unless there are blurbs saying "Not a hoax! Not a dream! Not an imaginary story!", and even then don't forget the possibility of robots, clones, alien doppelgangers, or visitors from alternate dimensions.
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May 8, 2014 03:08
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The FF, maybe?
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WickedHate posted:Remember, never trust the two C's-Covers and Cliffhangers-unless there are blurbs saying "Not a hoax! Not a dream! Not an imaginary story!", and even then don't forget the possibility of robots, clones, alien doppelgangers, or visitors from alternate dimensions. Or shapeshifter that we saw earlier in the issue!! Yeah with Shield gone expect a lot of poo poo to come out, and Fury will be needed to clean it up.
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The art has always been Ultimate Spider-Man's strong suit. Edit: Really gonna have to start quoting folks more. Didn't realize how necessary it is sometimes. There's a reason I'm just a Stupid Newbie. Inkspot fucked around with this message at 03:27 on May 8, 2014 |
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May 8, 2014 03:25
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Inkspot posted:The Bugle running "Spider-Man Twins Crime Spree Continues!" as a headline. Is JJJ going to have to learn to be nice to superheroes again? How many more times will he drink away and then relearn this lesson? I don't really think that headline is unjustified. They're twins dressed in very Spidey-esque costumes and they're on a crime spree. Cut it, print it, page 1. MISS BRANT GET ME A COFFEE
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TwoPair posted:I don't really think that headline is unjustified. They're twins dressed in very Spidey-esque costumes and they're on a crime spree. Cut it, print it, page 1. MISS BRANT GET ME A COFFEE Way to be a dick JJJ, as Miss Brant is dead.
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bobkatt013 posted:Way to be a dick JJJ, as Miss Brant is dead. Wait, her too?? drat, Ultimate Robbie's dead, too, does UJJJ have anyone left? 
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TwoPair posted:I don't really think that headline is unjustified. They're twins dressed in very Spidey-esque costumes and they're on a crime spree. Cut it, print it, page 1. MISS BRANT GET ME A COFFEE He's learned that Spider-Man is not a menace. Neither of them. Repeatedly. And I know hating Spider-Man and half-assed reporting is his schtick, but he's only, what, two or three weeks out from being rescued from that plane during Cataclysm? Not an exact equivalent, but if two guys in turbans and beards robbed a bank and the headline the next day read "Osama Twins Take Out A Loan!" the paper would have something to answer for.
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Inkspot posted:He's learned that Spider-Man is not a menace. Neither of them. Repeatedly. And I know hating Spider-Man and half-assed reporting is his schtick, but he's only, what, two or three weeks out from being rescued from that plane during Cataclysm? Unless it was the New York Post, in which case they would not give two shits about doing exactly that.
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Wait, her too?? drat, Ultimate Robbie's dead, too, does UJJJ have anyone left? Venom killed her a while ago.
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Inkspot posted:So, even as a cover, does it make sense that Peter would be in Miles' apartment picking stuff up? Miles got his gear from Fury, right? Does he have Peter's old webshooters or am I remembering that wrong? Also, how do the Chameleons know Miles is Spider-Man or where Miles lives? Miles got Peter's original web-shooters from Aunt May, and SHIELD crafted ones (which I think are the pair he actually uses) from Jessica Drew. And to chime in on the 200th issue discussion, I think one of the strongest things about the Miles version of this book is that the original characters who were close to Peter are still relevant. One of the best parts of USM has always been the supporting cast, and I think the Miles side of things stands up to and mixes well with the old characters from Peter's time as Spidey. And as far as getting out of Parker's shadow goes, give the character time. I'm sure Bendis has plans. DFu4ever fucked around with this message at 05:18 on May 10, 2014 |
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May 10, 2014 05:13
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I'm bummed that Ganke and Gwen aren't a thing. That was adorable.
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Rhyno posted:I'm bummed that Ganke and Gwen aren't a thing. That was adorable. Don't they have a fairly major age difference?
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Lurdiak posted:Don't they have a fairly major age difference? Like what, 2 years?
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