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Applebees posted:What callbacks have there been to Homelands? Baron Sengir is quoted on the flavor text to Elixir of Immortality. They also reprint Sengir Vampire in core sets a lot but that's not really a Homelands reference, technically, because Sengir Vampire predates it.
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The March Hare posted:The practical difference is that "The old version is going away in July" is not the same as "Cutting to the chase, if everything goes as expected, we plan to..." So basically semantics. Got it.
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May 8, 2014 04:11
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Attorney at Funk posted:Baron Sengir is quoted on the flavor text to Elixir of Immortality. They also reprint Sengir Vampire in core sets a lot but that's not really a Homelands reference, technically, because Sengir Vampire predates it. Barony Vampire also exists, and the Dark Barony in Ulgrotha was a Planechase card. Sengir Vampire is sort of like Glasses of Urza; it might have originally been its own thing but now it's pretty clearly tied in with the later sets that expanded on its lore, unless there are two parallel developing planes where the proper noun Sengir relates to a tribe of vampires. No, I don't have any idea how a vampire from Ulgrotha got to Otaria during Odyssey block, but probably the same way a djinn from Rabiah did. 
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May 8, 2014 04:12
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JerryLee posted:Barony Vampire also exists, and the Dark Barony in Ulgrotha was a Planechase card. I can't imagine what fresh hell you must occupy as a guy who's sincerely nostalgic for Homelands.
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May 8, 2014 04:36
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JerryLee posted:Barony Vampire also exists, and the Dark Barony in Ulgrotha was a Planechase card. I misread this as "Brony Vampire" at first; that's one Hasbro tie-in I hope we never see.
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May 8, 2014 04:42
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vOv posted:I misread this as "Brony Vampire" at first; that's one Hasbro tie-in I hope we never see. Hasbro has declared its two popular products, My Little Pony: The Collectible Card Game and Magic the Gathering, to be compatible. Both the casual and competitive scene now see regular play of cards like Twilight Sparkle and Pinky Pie alongside old favorites like Thassa and Grey Merchant.
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May 8, 2014 04:45
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Ramos posted:Hasbro has declared its two popular products, My Little Pony: The Collectible Card Game and Magic the Gathering, to be compatible. Both the casual and competitive scene now see regular play of cards like Twilight Sparkle and Pinky Pie alongside old favorites like Thassa and Grey Merchant. This would make me stop playing Magic entirely, actually.
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May 8, 2014 04:47
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May 8, 2014 04:48
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Attorney at Funk posted:I can't imagine what fresh hell you must occupy as a guy who's sincerely nostalgic for Homelands. The SETTING is reasonably popular, but it's so wholly tainted by the shittiness of the actual cards it's never getting touched.
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May 8, 2014 04:48
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ungulateman posted:Ashling the Planeswalker should totes be a thing. It really is a shame that despite Lorwyn being the set that introduced Planeswalkers, there hasn't been a Planeswalker from Lorwyn.
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May 8, 2014 04:51
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Alaan posted:The SETTING is reasonably popular, but it's so wholly tainted by the shittiness of the actual cards it's never getting touched. It's worth noting that the sheer amount of Magic players today compared to the number of Magic players back during Homelands is pretty big. So, you know, even if it was popular at the time it's not like the vast majority of players either are familiar or give a poo poo.
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May 8, 2014 04:52
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Zorak posted:It's worth noting that the sheer amount of Magic players today compared to the number of Magic players back during Homelands is pretty big. So, you know, even if it was popular at the time it's not like the vast majority of players either are familiar or give a poo poo. Not to mention, those of us who remember playing during Homelands remember it basically being about as good as Fallen Empires without Hymn to Tourach or pump knights.
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May 8, 2014 05:04
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Homelands cards are great if you ignore the text. Though I would still like to see the art director's notes for Irini Sengir. What is she doing? Is she putting it in? Or is it coming out? Why is she so excited? Is that excitement? Someone tell me? Why is she a Dwarf? A Vampire Dwarf? edit: Grandmother Sengir is a human wizard? This family is weird. Zorak posted:It's worth noting that the sheer amount of Magic players today compared to the number of Magic players back during Homelands is pretty big. So, you know, even if it was popular at the time it's not like the vast majority of players either are familiar or give a poo poo. Spiderdrake fucked around with this message at 05:09 on May 8, 2014 |
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May 8, 2014 05:05
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Spiderdrake posted:Not really relevant, but Magic players can look up and get attached to old settings. Like, Ravnica was hugely popular with a crowd of people who could not possibly have played during the original release given there was something like one fifth as many players at the time. Ravnica was basically the most popular set period when it came out in terms of design and flavor, at a period when Magic was undergoing drastic growths in popularity. Homelands, a set that came out a decade before that was a mostly mediocre / unpopular set that a few people apparently liked the flavor for. Wizards has stated it was the all time low for Magic design, and they had to modify how Standard worked for tournaments to get people to even play cards from it. These are two equivalent things to compare, yes.
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May 8, 2014 05:13
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As someone who originally played from around Fallen Empires through Homelands, I don't give a poo poo about the boring generic setting of Homelands and am glad the set is rightly forgotten. We already got Return To Ulgrotha-or-whatever-that-plane-was-named, it was called Innistrad and it was all the better for ignoring everything that didn't work about the previous attempt at a gothic horror inspired setting and just straight up rebooting it.
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May 8, 2014 05:15
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Spiderdrake posted:Homelands cards are great if you ignore the text. Irini was the dwarves princess. When Sengir took over their castle he vampirized her. Grandmother Sengir was a stupidly powerful (read: planeswalker) who got locked in a box and went crazy. Sengir found her and just sort of calls her Grandma.
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May 8, 2014 05:16
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SWEET JESUS That FoW promo is going to be crazy expensive, and the Elesh Norn promo is amazing.
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May 8, 2014 05:16
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Spiderdrake posted:Though I would still like to see the art director's notes for Irini Sengir. What is she doing? Is she putting it in? Or is it coming out? Why is she so excited? Is that excitement? Someone tell me? Irini was the princess of the dwarf kingdom and Baron Sengir just thought he'd make her a vampire and adopt her as his "daughter" just to gently caress with the other dwarves. Grandmother Sengir is some old planeswalker that got locked in some kind of magic prison for an eternity, and when the Baron found her, she was all crazy so he just took her into the family because she knew magic or whatever. RoleModel posted:SWEET JESUS I saw that FoW art in an MTGO email thing a while back (I don't know why I keep getting MTGO emails) but I didn't expect them to actually print that in physical form. Mercury Crusader fucked around with this message at 05:19 on May 8, 2014 |
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May 8, 2014 05:16
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RoleModel posted:SWEET JESUS Sweet baby jesus I need that Sword of Feast and Famine, Greater Good, and Elesh Norn more than any other Wizard Poker things I've ever needed.
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May 8, 2014 05:22
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Anyone mind telling me what's up with Norn's text? Is that the Phyrexian language or something?
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May 8, 2014 05:23
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RoleModel posted:SWEET JESUS gently caress yes, they're actually printing that Hanna art. Ramos posted:Anyone mind telling me what's up with Norn's text? Is that the Phyrexian language or something?
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May 8, 2014 05:23
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Ramos posted:Anyone mind telling me what's up with Norn's text? Is that the Phyrexian language or something? Yes, it's Phyrexian script.
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May 8, 2014 05:23
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RoleModel posted:SWEET JESUS That Hanna is going to be worth so much money
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May 8, 2014 05:25
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Mercury Crusader posted:I saw that FoW art in an MTGO email thing a while back (I don't know why I keep getting MTGO emails) but I didn't expect them to actually print that in physical form. I think they used that art for an MTGO promo version of it or something?
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May 8, 2014 05:25
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Entropic posted:I think they used that art for an MTGO promo version of it or something? Several times, yes.
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May 8, 2014 05:26
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Entropic posted:I think they used that art for an MTGO promo version of it or something? Went to check my emails, and it was the April MOCS promo.  Zorak posted:Several times, yes. They should several-times reprint Force of Will physically. I miss my playset. 
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May 8, 2014 05:28
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RoleModel posted:SWEET JESUS Foil Force of Will: the first $1,000 Uncommon?
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May 8, 2014 05:29
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Ramos posted:Anyone mind telling me what's up with Norn's text? Is that the Phyrexian language or something? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ixdHQj3O4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdDXMG9jvwg Phyrexian script is cool as hell
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May 8, 2014 05:29
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Zorak posted:The second part of Maro's card stories for JOU is up, it has some interesting details about the changes that happened to JOU after it went to development. Apparently the counter doubling mechanic had been pretty far along before development indicated it had power concerns and was replaced with a series of other spell mechanics until they finally came up with Strive. Apparently Heroes Bane used to be capable of doubling the counters on ANY creature. Good to see the best forest (the bottom right one) returning. Love dem trees.
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May 8, 2014 05:32
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That Elesh Norn and Hanna are the best motivations I've ever had for finally taking my L1 exam.
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May 8, 2014 05:34
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tzirean posted:That Elesh Norn and Hanna are the best motivations I've ever had for finally taking my L1 exam. The population of L1s might be experiencing a bit of an uptick soon. Fortunately I know a L2 who hangs out at my LGS fairly often and has a nice box of rules interaction training puzzles. Need to get to studying. Want that Hanna so bad
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May 8, 2014 05:39
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I got to join the sweet miscut crew today.
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May 8, 2014 05:40
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Archenteron posted:The population of L1s might be experiencing a bit of an uptick soon. Fortunately I know a L2 who hangs out at my LGS fairly often and has a nice box of rules interaction training puzzles. Need to get to studying. Want that Hanna so bad I've been trying to get on it for nearly a year now, but I was roadblocked by my area's only remaining L2 being a judge nobody really wants to interact with. Fortunately, we've just picked up two more, and I'm pretty friendly with one of them.
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Yeah, how do you get Judge promos anyway as a judge? Do you have to be of a certain level, or have been one for X years, or...?
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C-Euro posted:Yeah, how do you get Judge promos anyway as a judge? Do you have to be of a certain level, or have been one for X years, or...? Attend Judge Conferences.
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C-Euro posted:Yeah, how do you get Judge promos anyway as a judge? Do you have to be of a certain level, or have been one for X years, or...? Either go to Judge Conferences or judge at GPs. The promos being mailed out is a very, very rare thing.
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Zorak posted:It's worth noting that the sheer amount of Magic players today compared to the number of Magic players back during Homelands is pretty big. So, you know, even if it was popular at the time it's not like the vast majority of players either are familiar or give a poo poo. Not to mention a large portion of the Magic playerbase wasn't alive or was in diapers when Homelands was released. We are old.
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Entropic posted:As someone who originally played from around Fallen Empires through Homelands, I don't give a poo poo about the boring generic setting of Homelands and am glad the set is rightly forgotten. We already got Return To Ulgrotha-or-whatever-that-plane-was-named, it was called Innistrad and it was all the better for ignoring everything that didn't work about the previous attempt at a gothic horror inspired setting and just straight up rebooting it. Agreed. Fallen Empires had a hugely underrated setting, by the way. The wars within each color was a thing that I thought was pretty cool.
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suicidesteve posted:I got to join the sweet miscut crew today. Off-center.
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