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Lord Of Texas posted:Not to mention a large portion of the Magic playerbase wasn't alive or was in diapers when Homelands was released. We are old.
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Attorney at Funk posted:I can't imagine what fresh hell you must occupy as a guy who's sincerely nostalgic for Homelands. Eh, pretty much the same one I occupy as a guy who's nostalgic for every block of the Weatherlight saga, as well as a few afterwards like Time Spiral (yes, at this point I'm nostalgic for the nostalgia block, as funny as that sounds) and Lorwyn. It's not like Wizards throwing babies out with bathwater is a new thing to me at this point. None of which means that I want to exactly mechanically replicate the worse cards from those sets. If another Balduvian Shaman or Icatian Moneychanger never gets printed, it's fine by me. But somehow people seem to assume (disingenuously or not) that this must be what someone wants whenever they let slip any nostalgia for sets of that era.
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May 8, 2014 06:05
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Ramos posted:Hasbro has declared its two popular products, My Little Pony: The Collectible Card Game and Magic the Gathering, to be compatible. Both the casual and competitive scene now see regular play of cards like Twilight Sparkle and Pinky Pie alongside old favorites like Thassa and Grey Merchant. Don't joke about it. All it will take is for one corpulent Hasbro VP to see dollar signs and send out a memo, and the "Friendship is Magic" block is born.
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May 8, 2014 06:07
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So I'm sure this has been asked a lot before but I don't keep up with this thread a lot. What's up with Prophetic Flamespeaker? Why is it a mythic? Why is it in a bunch of decks I've seen lately? It seems like you gotta have Titan's Strength or Ghor-Clan Rampager or something to do anything with him and even if it doesn't get Doom Bladed or whatever you probably won't be able to play whatever card you flip over unless it's a land. Can someone please enlighten me?
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May 8, 2014 06:08
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Why wouldn't you be able to play what you get?
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May 8, 2014 06:10
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Zorak posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ixdHQj3O4 This is just making me really wish I'd played during Scars block because those trailers are cool as poo poo.
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May 8, 2014 06:11
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Dr. Stab posted:Why wouldn't you be able to play what you get? Because in order to get him to connect you had to spend mana that turn to do so.
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May 8, 2014 06:11
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Promoted Pawn posted:If I had that in cardboard I'd be very tempted to reassemble my Hanna EDH deck even if nobody else found it fun to play against. RoleModel posted:SWEET JESUS Seriously. Want that Hanna. Also I'm willing to bet that Nekusar is going to be the 2nd most expensive card out of that lot behind FoW. He's the most popular new commander from the 2013 decks and the only other foil of him is the oversized.
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May 8, 2014 06:16
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TheKingofSprings posted:Because in order to get him to connect you had to spend mana that turn to do so. So? If you Titan's Strength the guy, you're still probably getting in for 4 trample. Even if you can't play the card, you've traded 1 card for 4 damage and a creature. Now that's what I call value.
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May 8, 2014 06:17
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Elephant Ambush posted:So I'm sure this has been asked a lot before but I don't keep up with this thread a lot. What's up with Prophetic Flamespeaker? Why is it a mythic? Why is it in a bunch of decks I've seen lately? It seems like you gotta have Titan's Strength or Ghor-Clan Rampager or something to do anything with him and even if it doesn't get Doom Bladed or whatever you probably won't be able to play whatever card you flip over unless it's a land. Can someone please enlighten me? I can tell, you're not much of a red player. Part of winning with red is taking opportunities when they count. Your job isn't to make sure Prophetic Flamespeaker hits, it's your job to present him and then take advantage of him when he does hit. Otherwise, he's scary as poo poo for the opponent considering that two extra cards for red might just be two lightning bolts to the face. He's extra backbone to help you along, not what you build the deck around. It's similar to Eidolon of the Great Revel. People think hate card with it, but it's a lot of extended reach for red. Whatever damage it deals you, it can also be dealing that much to the opponent. Either they play cards and get closer to death or don't play cards and get punched anyway. It's all about opportunity and two more cards for red is a lot of opportunity. Not to mention, he's flexible as gently caress too, pump ready when needed, a decent enough swinger otherwise.
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May 8, 2014 06:18
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Sort of beaten while I was typing this, but:TheKingofSprings posted:Because in order to get him to connect you had to spend mana that turn to do so. Well, let's assume that the turn after you cast him (i.e. the first turn you swing) you have access to four mana total--fairly reasonable, especially after he gives you an extra two chances to "draw" a land. Even if you spend two mana to burn a blocker or bloodrush the flamespeaker, you still have a decent chance of being able to cast something you flip if your deck's mana curve is well built. The important thing to keep in mind, I think, is that even if you effectively brick on one or both of the "draws" for a turn, you're still in a great position. Especially if you bloodrushed him, you probably just obliterated a blocker and took a chunk out of your opponent's life total. And the next turn you'll probably have more mana, and more the turn after that, and so on and so forth. Unless your opponent removes it--which isn't supremely unlikely, but let's not get into "dies to removal"--then swinging with it is just going to keep being awesome, one way or another, until you win. At least that's how I see it.
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May 8, 2014 06:18
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Ramos posted:I can tell, you're not much of a red player. Part of winning with red is taking opportunities when they count. Your job isn't to make sure Prophetic Flamespeaker hits, it's your job to present him and then take advantage of him when he does hit. Otherwise, he's scary as poo poo for the opponent considering that two extra cards for red might just be two lightning bolts to the face. I'm actually a primarily red player which is why it confused me. I like the comparison to Eidolon of Great Revel. That makes more sense. He's mostly a threat and a removal target, and if you can buff him with a combat trick then all the better. Thanks.
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May 8, 2014 06:20
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RoleModel posted:SWEET JESUS Norn is sweet as hell like everyone is saying, but hot drat do I love those old frame swords. Artifacts are supposed to be brown not loving silver.
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May 8, 2014 06:23
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Elephant Ambush posted:I'm actually a primarily red player which is why it confused me. I like the comparison to Eidolon of Great Revel. That makes more sense. He's mostly a threat and a removal target, and if you can buff him with a combat trick then all the better. Thanks. Fair enough. But yeah, the card has a lot of psychology surrounding it and while he's a tad bit low on the damage output for where he is on the curve by himself, he's really capable of a lot. If nothing else, hitting with him may sometimes mean clearing out two lands that you would have been stuck with otherwise. Really, he has more utility every time I look at him.
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May 8, 2014 06:30
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Ramos posted:Fair enough. But yeah, the card has a lot of psychology surrounding it and while he's a tad bit low on the damage output for where he is on the curve by himself, he's really capable of a lot. If nothing else, hitting with him may sometimes mean clearing out two lands that you would have been stuck with otherwise. I think what I need to do is just play him in a deck with Ghor-Clan Rampager and see what happens. Clearly they made him mythic for a reason.
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May 8, 2014 06:35
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Elephant Ambush posted:I think what I need to do is just play him in a deck with Ghor-Clan Rampager and see what happens. Clearly they made him mythic for a reason. I'd personally prefer Lightning Strike or something like that. His trample allows his damage to go through regardless if you kill off things blocking him.
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May 8, 2014 06:44
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I'm actually curious if he might make Pyrewild Shaman playable - if I understand the triggers correctly, you would be able to see both "bonus draws" from Flamespeaker before deciding whether to recur Pyrewild Shaman during your regular combat damage step. It's probably still too cute, but being able to recur Pyrewild when you brick is a neat interaction.
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May 8, 2014 06:48
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Bugsy posted:Norn is sweet as hell like everyone is saying, but hot drat do I love those old frame swords. Artifacts are supposed to be brown not loving silver. I think it's been a long time since artifacts have been portrayed as ancient magical relics discovered in dig sites.
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May 8, 2014 06:50
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Niton posted:I'm actually curious if he might make Pyrewild Shaman playable - if I understand the triggers correctly, you would be able to see both "bonus draws" from Flamespeaker before deciding whether to recur Pyrewild Shaman during your regular combat damage step. It's probably still too cute, but being able to recur Pyrewild when you brick is a neat interaction. It could work, plus lets you can repeated value of your cards without having to cast stuff, since while Eidolon of Great Revel's damage isn't as big of drawback as people think, it still hurts. Still, Prophetic Flamespeaker lends itself to burn, maybe counter burn, that might be hanging a tad too far out of the range.
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May 8, 2014 06:58
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Elephant Ambush posted:I think what I need to do is just play him in a deck with Ghor-Clan Rampager and see what happens. Clearly they made him mythic for a reason. Forget Rampager, try Madcap Skills. A match made in heaven.
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May 8, 2014 07:17
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RoleModel posted:SWEET JESUS I've already just shelled out for a Hanna pack foil and I have no problems whatsoever with demoting it to a "Whoops-got-Hindered" proxy. The worst part of this announcement? Listening to one of my friends complain that it's underwhelming because it "looks too much like Sydri." 
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May 8, 2014 07:18
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So who is going to GP Manchester? I don't have any byes and I have not attended anything above FNM, but it's only 100 or so miles away from me so I am going just for the experience. What can I expect from a GP and what are some good rules to follow regarding one in general? I watched the official GP video on it, but is there anything else I need to know in regards to playing and preparation?
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May 8, 2014 10:41
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Samael posted:So who is going to GP Manchester? I don't have any byes and I have not attended anything above FNM, but it's only 100 or so miles away from me so I am going just for the experience. What can I expect from a GP and what are some good rules to follow regarding one in general? I watched the official GP video on it, but is there anything else I need to know in regards to playing and preparation? I'm going, but I don't have prior GP experience myself. Be prepared however you can, bring all the decks you'd like to play, with lists, and sleeves and boxes if you plan to do limited. There's GPTs on the Friday, I think you pay once and need a 5 game streak to get 2 byes and a sleep in special upgrade.
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May 8, 2014 11:45
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BizarroAzrael posted:I'm going, but I don't have prior GP experience myself. Be prepared however you can, bring all the decks you'd like to play, with lists, and sleeves and boxes if you plan to do limited. Okay. What block constructed deck are you going to try? I am trying something like this- 7 Plains 8 Swamp 4 Mana Confluence 4 Temple of Silence 4 Agent of the Fates 4 Eidolon of Countless Battles 4 Herald of Torment 4 Hero of Iroas 2 Hopeful Eidolon 3 Pain Seer 4 Spiteful Returned 2 Bile Blight 4 Gods Willing 2 Athreos, God of Passage 4 Thoughtseize Sideboard- 3 Dark Betrayal 2 Hopeful Eidolon 4 Nighthowler 3 Deicide 3 Hero’s Downfall
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May 8, 2014 11:58
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I love that Judge Promo Sword of Feast and Famine. Have they ever done something like that before?
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May 8, 2014 13:15
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forbidden lesbian posted:I love that Judge Promo Sword of Feast and Famine. Have they ever done something like that before? Yes, http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/magic_single_card.asp?cn=Sword%20of%20Fire%20and%20Ice&sn=Judge%20Promos
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May 8, 2014 13:20
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ungulateman posted:Ashling the Planeswalker should totes be a thing.  GoutPatrol posted:Ugh I want that Neilsen Hanna so bad and I know it is going to be rediculously expensive.
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May 8, 2014 14:28
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GoutPatrol posted:Ugh I want that Neilsen Hanna so bad and I know it is going to be rediculously expensive. The Xiahou Dun promo started out at like $80, then slid down to $20 as the demand saturated. Hanna isn't played anywhere but EDH either, and she's been printed much more widely than XHD ever was, so there's no reason to think the promo will settle out to be much more expensive than the current pack-foil price, which is $25 - not bargain-basement, but not unattainable either. Now that FoW promo, jesus drat. I can only hope it causes a dip in the regular FoW price, so I can pick up my playset without slashing my wrists, but it's not a sure thing at all.
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May 8, 2014 14:39
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LordSaturn posted:The Xiahou Dun promo started out at like $80, then slid down to $20 as the demand saturated. Hanna isn't played anywhere but EDH either, and she's been printed much more widely than XHD ever was, so there's no reason to think the promo will settle out to be much more expensive than the current pack-foil price, which is $25 - not bargain-basement, but not unattainable either. Estimates are 1200-1500 judges from 2005 and up that will be eligable for it. If its 1 copy each, well consider that players wanting a full playset its going to be insanely expensive and make no impact on regular FoW price at all. That is my opinion anyway. Most of the finance people are talking $500-1000+ per card. I wonder if most judges will hold them given its all l2's and up, and we assume 1 per judge. On the flip side, 'dat Elesh Norn. I must have one.
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May 8, 2014 14:57
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Ojetor posted:Forget Rampager, try Madcap Skills. A match made in heaven. Ugh I always forget about Madcap and I don't know why. I'll keep that in mind too.
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May 8, 2014 15:26
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Hey remember when that one goon said that he'd rebuild his Hanna edh deck if they reprinted her with that really good art even if his play group hated it. That was about week or so ago. Funny how that works. Unrelated. Gimme dat Nekusar
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May 8, 2014 15:27
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Gynovore posted:Don't joke about it. All it will take is for one corpulent Hasbro VP to see dollar signs and send out a memo, and the "Friendship is Magic" block is born. vOv posted:This is just making me really wish I'd played during Scars block because those trailers are cool as poo poo.
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May 8, 2014 15:59
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JerryLee posted:Ehh, I could have been more specific, but I had a non-humanoid artifact character in mind. Don't get me wrong, I love Karn, but a golem is still very much in "make sure it has a humanoid face, torso, and limbs, otherwise it won't be relatable!!!" territory. I still want an Ooze planeswalker. Just a magical glob of aether and plasma that osmoses through the Blind Eternities. I don't even want it to be sentient. Give it all sorts of goofy storyline properties that turn it into the block's magical macguffin. Hell, make it the congealed afterbirth of The Mending, semi-solidified after the Multiverse cooled.
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May 8, 2014 16:08
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I still want an Ooze planeswalker. Just a magical glob of aether and plasma that osmoses through the Blind Eternities. I don't even want it to be sentient. Give it all sorts of goofy storyline properties that turn it into the block's magical macguffin. Basically, it's kinda like some people are born with the keys to the universe in their heart, but it is totally possible to then get those keys copied at Wal-Mart.
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Ramos posted:It could work, plus lets you can repeated value of your cards without having to cast stuff, since while Eidolon of Great Revel's damage isn't as big of drawback as people think, it still hurts. The card doesn't actually say "Draw a card" on it. I don't think playing counterspells on your turn is a good plan.
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May 8, 2014 17:31
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Veyrall posted:It's actually a thing in the background of Magic that only sentient, living creatures can become PWs, though I think people mostly just have the spark randomly at birth, though there are apparently ways to artifically make a spark, as well as ways to move one around. Sure but when we're talking about a Mending-born glob of aether, who's to say it's not made of the amalgamated sparks of dead and disempowered walkers? I mean it'll never happen because you can't sell it as some sort of aspirational identity to moody teens or whatever, but if that weren't a problem, I'm sure you can handwave all sorts of other poo poo to bring it to light.
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May 8, 2014 17:37
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Dr. Stab posted:Why wouldn't you be able to play what you get? Because you have to spend mana on buffing Flamespeaker in the first place.
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May 8, 2014 17:49
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Does anyone have a link for the site that does price comparison by set that replaced http://ark42.com/mtg/pricevisualizer.php>? I lucked out and for some reason my Target had one of those $30 boxes with a 2011 commander deck and a bunch of misc precons that I want to price out quickly.
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May 8, 2014 18:34
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http://mtg.dawnglare.com
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Count Bleck posted:Hey remember when that one goon said that he'd rebuild his Hanna edh deck if they reprinted her with that really good art even if his play group hated it. That was about week or so ago. My Nekusar deck is calling for that card to be its Commander...anything to make the deck shinier is good for me.
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