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Does all it take for a SCOTUS decision to be overturned be that a case regarding it be brought up before a new court? Like, hypothetically, if a white power group set off a nuke in every major city in the United States and Republicans took the presidency, and they appointed an entirely Republican SCOTUS, could a group just appeal their case automatically to the Supreme Court to get ROe V Wae overturned? Or would they need to prove the case is different than it was before?
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Fulchrum posted:Does all it take for a SCOTUS decision to be overturned be that a case regarding it be brought up before a new court? Like, hypothetically, if a white power group set off a nuke in every major city in the United States and Republicans took the presidency, and they appointed an entirely Republican SCOTUS, could a group just appeal their case automatically to the Supreme Court to get ROe V Wae overturned? Or would they need to prove the case is different than it was before? It needs to reach the SCOTUS by the normal appeal process, but yeah, that's exactly how it works.
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May 6, 2014 13:07
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Fulchrum posted:Does all it take for a SCOTUS decision to be overturned be that a case regarding it be brought up before a new court? Like, hypothetically, if a white power group set off a nuke in every major city in the United States and Republicans took the presidency, and they appointed an entirely Republican SCOTUS, could a group just appeal their case automatically to the Supreme Court to get ROe V Wae overturned? Or would they need to prove the case is different than it was before? The Supreme Court would have to agree to hear the case before ruling on it, but yes, they can overturn any precedent they like, in theory, and they have explicitly overturned precedents in the past, although they usually prefer not to.
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May 6, 2014 13:10
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conservapedia posted:40 quotes from Barack Obama on Islam and Christianity.[4]
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May 6, 2014 16:40
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Hey just wondering, was Obama's dad even a Muslim? Not that his father being a Muslim means Obama is one or that his religion matters at all it's just I wouldn't be surprised if these people are assuming that since his dad was African he must be some variety of Muslim. Also I might be a bit late but I'm assuming Andy hated Noah? Film about Christian mythology that actually explores the morality of the Deluge story, makes visual references to the scientific view of the history of the world and slips in an environmental preservation theme, how could he not loathe it? Actually Noah's getting surprisingly good reviews from religious audiences. Oh and I just realised that Noah did actually borrow something from the creationists, specifically putting the animals into suspended animation for the trip.
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May 6, 2014 18:59
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Mind Loving Owl posted:Hey just wondering, was Obama's dad even a Muslim? Not that his father being a Muslim means Obama is one or that his religion matters at all it's just I wouldn't be surprised if these people are assuming that since his dad was African he must be some variety of Muslim. Barack Obama Sr. was raised by Muslim parents, converted to Anglicanism at 6 because the staff at his elementary school told him he should, and eventually dropped that to be an atheist. Then he was in a car accident and died. Parahexavoctal fucked around with this message at 20:17 on May 6, 2014 |
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May 6, 2014 19:54
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I don't think Obama knew Obama Sr. that well to start out with. The relationship was...thorny, I believe Soetoro had a lot more impact on his life.
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May 6, 2014 20:57
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And Soetoro was a Muslim. As are the vast majority of Indonesians.
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May 6, 2014 22:21
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Parahexavoctal posted:Barack Obama Sr. was raised by Muslim parents, converted to Anglicanism at 6 because the staff at his elementary school told him he should, and eventually dropped that to be an atheist. Then he was in a car accident and died. Both of Obama's parents were atheists. I've always suspected that he is as well but claims Christianity for political reasons.
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May 7, 2014 00:06
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quote:40 quotes from Barack Obama on Islam and Christianity.[5] Emphasis mine. God I love this site sometimes.
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May 7, 2014 00:36
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This bothers me. http://www.conservapedia.com/Libertarianism_masked_as_conservatism a Conservapedia article whose entire content is a copy-paste from TIME Magazine. and it's by Conservapedia admin Ed Poor. 
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May 7, 2014 01:16
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Oh my god my head hurts so badly. Conservapedia claims they are in the "right" by stating that the speed of light is not a cosmological constant by quoting scientists who state that the time it takes light to travel from point A to point B may not be c when traveling through a non-vacuum. They take the facts, then meld them to meet their conclusions; i.e., that the universe supports a Young Earth creationist theory. Their whole list of "We're right you're wrong" is full of this poo poo: http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia_proven_right THEY HAVE MORE! GOLDMINE!: http://www.conservapedia.com/Counterexamples_to_Relativity A Bad King fucked around with this message at 03:55 on May 7, 2014 |
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May 7, 2014 03:53
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Conservapedia posted:40 quotes from Barack Obama on Islam and Christianity.[4] He thinks Muslim prayers sound nice, therefore he is unfit to president. Why choose Handel's Messiah as a counter point to Muslim prayer anyway, it's a weird comparison to make.
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May 7, 2014 04:40
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Mischalaniouse posted:He thinks Muslim prayers sound nice, therefore he is unfit to president. Why choose Handel's Messiah as a counter point to Muslim prayer anyway, it's a weird comparison to make. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX3U-BGDedc Yeah, someone liking this is clearly a godless heathen.
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May 7, 2014 05:22
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I wonder what they'd say when Lincoln was in office just after the war ended and asked the band to play Dixie because he loved the music
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May 7, 2014 08:29
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Seriously, I'm a hard atheist and love both the Islamic call to prayer and lots of Christian religious music. The horror!
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May 7, 2014 15:54
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Seriously, I'm a hard atheist and love both the Islamic call to prayer and lots of Christian religious music. The horror! Douglas Adams, who was well known for being friends with Richard Dawkins and identifying as a "radical atheist", consistently maintained that his favorite piece of music was Beethoven's Mass in B Minor and that nothing would ever surpass that. I honestly feel bad for people who can't admire religious music if they don't follow that religion.
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I dunno if I'd feel more sorry for them, or for the nuts that spend more time promoting it as part of THEIR OWN religious culture. At least the former don't really know what they're missing while the latter don't stop chirping about their bullshit to really listen and feel it.
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May 7, 2014 16:47
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SketchesOfSpain01 posted:THEY HAVE MORE! GOLDMINE!: Edit: http://www.conservapedia.com/Black_holes quote:As with the related theoretical concept of a "wormhole",[1] it is impossible to prove that no black hole exists anywhere, and thus they fail the falsifiability requirement of science. Yaos fucked around with this message at 02:49 on May 8, 2014 |
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May 8, 2014 02:47
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Yaos posted:Very first citation links to an article that says the exact opposite of what it's citing. By that standard, there's no such thing as cats. What a terrible world!
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May 8, 2014 02:52
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Pope Guilty posted:By that standard, there's no such thing as cats. What a terrible world! Excuse me but the one true American pet is a dog1 thank you very much. 1. That one episode of King of the Hill.
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May 8, 2014 02:57
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What the hell does conservapedia have against the theory of relativity and black holes? I see stuff about liberals thinking it's true, is that why they don't like it?
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May 8, 2014 03:04
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I think the relativity thing is about a really dumb literalist reading of a passage in one of the Gospels where Jesus makes something happen instantaneously, and everyone knows Jesus's miracles were renowned for working within the laws of physics as we understand them.
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May 8, 2014 03:10
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Conservapedia considers relativity to be liberal claptrap because the name relativity reminds Andy Schlafly of moral relativism. That's literally why.
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May 8, 2014 03:34
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Pope Guilty posted:Conservapedia considers relativity to be liberal claptrap because the name relativity reminds Andy Schlafly of moral relativism. That's literally why. If time moves differently in different reference frames, then what's to stop me from cooking and eating this baby?
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May 8, 2014 03:39
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The answer is the same answer it always is; they're not very bright people.
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Yeah, Schlafly has this weird thing where he thinks moral relativity and Einstein's Special Relativity have to be related because they both use the word "relativity". No, it doesn't make any god drat sense, but that's honest to god the reason.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Yeah, Schlafly has this weird thing where he thinks moral relativity and Einstein's Special Relativity have to be related because they both use the word "relativity". No, it doesn't make any god drat sense, but that's honest to god the reason. He also used to deny the concept of imaginary numbers, which must've made his work as an electrical engineer extremely interesting.
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Pope Guilty posted:He also used to deny the concept of imaginary numbers, which must've made his work as an electrical engineer extremely interesting. Something tells me his 'electrical engineering' had more in common with Warhammer 40k repair methodologies. *repeatedly smacks malfunctioning part with a bible* God commands you to WORK, dammit! WORK!
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Somfin posted:Something tells me his 'electrical engineering' had more in common with Warhammer 40k repair methodologies. "An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded."
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May 8, 2014 09:07
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"Blessed is the mind too small for doubt"
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made of bees posted:I think the relativity thing is about a really dumb literalist reading of a passage in one of the Gospels where Jesus makes something happen instantaneously, and everyone knows Jesus's miracles were renowned for working within the laws of physics as we understand them. Hah, I forgot about that. If he takes it as literalist, can we get him to accept quantum mechanics as Jesus rode in on both one or two asses depending on the different gospel versions.
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happyhippy posted:If he takes it as literalist, can we get him to accept quantum mechanics as Jesus rode in on both one or two asses depending on the different gospel versions. I hate it when you point this out or the discrepancy in the number of angels at the empty tomb and get the response "Well if there were TWO donkeys/angels, then obviously there was at least ONE so there's no contradiction!"
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Counterexamples to Relativity posted:18. The action-at-a-distance of quantum entanglement. I can't  enough at so many of these. Magical, just magical. That last one is a just weird. I don't even get how that last one is remotely approaching a counterpoint in any sort of context to well, anything, let alone relativity.I ... just ... look, I can't help myself. I'm sorry. I've tried to hold back, and everyone one just completely ignore it because I already know the answer, sadly, but I have to put the question to virtual paper because I just have to; Is this a parody site? Also, the whole obsession with the "if anything is ever corrected in science then the whole of science is questionable" argument is just enthralling.
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markgreyam posted:Is this a parody site? If it is, Andy is 10x the parody comedian Colbert ever was
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May 8, 2014 12:37
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markgreyam posted:Also, the whole obsession with the "if anything is ever corrected in science then the whole of science is questionable" argument is just enthralling. It's the result of considering science as a religion. If a religious leader does something grotesquely immoral, how can you trust that leader's statements on morality?
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Yeah, Schlafly has this weird thing where he thinks moral relativity and Einstein's Special Relativity have to be related because they both use the word "relativity". No, it doesn't make any god drat sense, but that's honest to god the reason. Something to remember is that Schlafly never admits he's wrong. About anything. Ever. If it appears that he's wrong about something, what's actually wrong is the questioner. Or the scientific community. Or liberals. Of course liberals are always wrong, but you get where I'm going with this. I honestly believe what happened is Andy conflated Einstein's relativity with moral relativity once, possibly just to make a point or an analogy, and someone pointed out to him that they're not the same thing. He reacted by declaring that no, he couldn't have made a mistake, so they are the same thing, and everything since then has been him endlessly doubling down on it.
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This list is fantastic! Counterexamples to Relativity posted:1. ... it is debatable whether black holes exist at all. Clearly, their theory is so strong that it is supported by both the nonexistence of black holes AND the black holes we observe. Way to go, Best of the Public!  Edit: for typo Random Axis fucked around with this message at 00:49 on May 9, 2014 |
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May 8, 2014 17:38
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I've posted this before, but this is Andy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwqIazaeeJc
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Haha, no devices developed incorporating relativity? I hope Andy doesn't use GPS, or I've got bad news about how he's been benefiting directly from the theory of relativity.
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