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stickyfngrdboy posted:four key areas identified as the primary obstructions to the development of elite english players
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sassassin posted:Andros Townsend was only taught that he should get his head up while dribbling this year. I know your thing is your posts proving you don't watch football but still https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX_ps2RVjdo Look at him, staring at his feet the entire time
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May 8, 2014 15:25
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Eric Cantonese posted:http://www.westhamacademyinternational.com/TC_NSCAA.html Buy his book if you're interested, it's a good mix of basic coaching lessons and his thoughts on how to work with youngsters. It took me forever to find, though.
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May 8, 2014 15:27
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Barkley's issue isn't that he doesn't get his head up it's that he makes poor decisions
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May 8, 2014 15:31
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According to the Mail (who are normally pretty accurate when it comes to West Ham stuff), Big Sam is getting fired after the game on Sunday despite the win at Tottenham. Be interesting to see who they appoint if this is true. There's been rumblings of Allegri being after the job if Spurs go with De Boer
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May 8, 2014 15:32
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west ham academy dude posted:An absolute priority is to develop a clean first touch. Receiving and position the ball as it arrives, allows more time to release the ball with an accurate, well timed and well-paced pass. The first touch is the key to becoming a quality player. A good first touch allows you to keep the ball or to play it off first time, thus creating a serious problem for the defender. Wellbeck  west ham academy dude posted:The years from ages 5 to 8 are absolutely vital because youngsters are totally receptive to everything you tell them, and they have not developed any bad habits. Up to the age of 11 Norwegian policy
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May 8, 2014 15:33
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Ziggy Tzardust posted:According to the Mail (who are normally pretty accurate when it comes to West Ham stuff), Big Sam is getting fired after the game on Sunday despite the win at Tottenham. Be interesting to see who they appoint if this is true. There's been rumblings of Allegri being after the job if Spurs go with De Boer THIS IS MY FAVOURITE SEASON Yeah Allegri's been rumoured a while and it'd mean we keep the Serie A loanees, who Sam doesn't like (which apparently irritated the owners). I want someone good with youth really, Adkins was my favourite choice and then Malky and his ties, but Allegri would be just lovely. TheRat posted:Wellbeck Wouldn't have said Welbeck's problem is his first touch, it's more his last touch that lets him down 
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May 8, 2014 15:37
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How many teams have not gotten relegated after firing Allardyce? It's a curse.
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May 8, 2014 15:39
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The loan ideas in the FA's report seem like they could be good but it'll all get ignored because they brought up the B team bollocks
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May 8, 2014 15:40
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IF HIS NAME WAS ALLARDICIO
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May 8, 2014 15:41
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Spangly A posted:
It's both, really. His first touch is atrocious.
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May 8, 2014 15:42
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Jose posted:The loan ideas in the FA's report seem like they could be good but it'll all get ignored because they brought up the B team bollocks I can't be bothered to read it paraphrase the loan ideas for me please
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May 8, 2014 15:42
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Blue Screen Error posted:I can't be bothered to read it paraphrase the loan ideas for me please Premier league and championship clubs can loan up to 8 players under 22 to lower league teams, only 5 can be in the match day team, coaches can also be loaned. At the minute 4 players from a single club can be loaned of any age
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May 8, 2014 15:43
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Is that, they can only loan out a maximum of 8 players overall, or they can only loan out 8 players to a single club, and then 8 to another and so on?
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May 8, 2014 15:49
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Duncan Sperguson posted:Barkley's issue isn't that he doesn't get his head up it's that he makes poor decisions (One of) His thing(s) is actually that he looks up very early then gets his head down to play the ball, which catches him out if situations change. It was out of line to compare England's saviour with Townsend, I profoundly apologise.
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May 8, 2014 15:50
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I think it was 8 to a single club and they can send more elsewhere, so double what they currently can but they have to be youth players. Its more the sending coaches with youth players that I thinks a good idea really.
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May 8, 2014 15:51
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I think one of the problems with the current setup is that being in the Prem is so financially important to clubs that most are utterly loath to play youngsters who might make a few mistakes. It's a real shame as when played regularly players like Barkley thrive. He's made a shitload of mistakes this season and his decision making still sucks at times, but you can literally see him getting better and better with each game.
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May 8, 2014 15:53
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Jose posted:I think it was 8 to a single club and they can send more elsewhere, so double what they currently can but they have to be youth players. Its more the sending coaches with youth players that I thinks a good idea really. Have to see how it works in practice but seems like it would end up making lower league clubs B teams in everything but name.
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May 8, 2014 15:54
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Headhunter posted:I think one of the problems with the current setup is that being in the Prem is so financially important to clubs that most are utterly loath to play youngsters who might make a few mistakes. Wow, I've never thought about it that way. Real eye opener.
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May 8, 2014 15:56
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Headhunter posted:I think one of the problems with the current setup is that being in the Prem is so financially important to clubs that most are utterly loath to play youngsters who might make a few mistakes. Yep this is the biggest problem, and why the only solution that would actually make a difference is first team quotas but that will never be allowed to happen as it would ~damage the brand~.
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May 8, 2014 15:56
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Massive congratulations to the FA for taking a giant strides towards killing lower league football, bending over to the money lords and plastics of the BPL at the expense of those who support community clubs. loving cunts.
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May 8, 2014 15:59
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Blue Screen Error posted:Yep this is the biggest problem, and why the only solution that would actually make a difference is first team quotas but that will never be allowed to happen as it would ~damage the brand~. Doubt that'll change anything. England has a bit of an unique problem in the sense that you never see English players leave and go to the usual "development leagues" like Eredivisie because they're already on more money than what they would make at a smaller league.
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May 8, 2014 16:00
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That B team idea is a total and utter disgrace, and as britishbornandbread posted will have horrific ramifications for clubs in the conference and below, let alone those in league 2.Jose posted:In case anyone is curious, the clubs that Dyke says are in support of B team's are Man Utd/City, Spurs, Stoke and Liverpool Pisses me off so much that City are in support of this, although can't say i'm surprised. I suspect in reality many Prem teams support it, they just aren't public about it
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May 8, 2014 16:00
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In case anyone is curious, the clubs that Dyke says are in support of B team's are Man Utd/City, Spurs, Stoke and Liverpool
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May 8, 2014 16:00
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britishbornandbread posted:Massive congratulations to the FA for taking a giant strides towards killing lower league football, bending over to the money lords and plastics of the BPL at the expense of those who support community clubs. The FL have already said that this proposal doesn't contain a solution that is acceptable yet, so I'm sure this report as it stands will not be final.
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May 8, 2014 16:01
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TheGoatFeeder posted:That B team idea is a total and utter disgrace, and as britishbornandbread posted will have horrific ramifications for clubs in the conference and below, let alone those in league 2. Seems like the sorta thing that might end up in the courts because it would kill the British football pyramid? Also can't the Football League just tell em to gently caress off as the Prem and Football League is two different entities?
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May 8, 2014 16:02
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Can't the new money and oversized saturated giants all just gently caress off to a European Super League and let us get on with real football please? Thanks.
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May 8, 2014 16:03
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Hegay posted:Seems like the sorta thing that might end up in the courts because it would kill the British football pyramid? Also can't the Football League just tell em to gently caress off as the Prem and Football League is two different entities? The Premier league don't even want the change because they aren't certain it'll improve anything and that its not worth the uproar as a result. Its only "big clubs" who want the change
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May 8, 2014 16:04
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sassassin posted:(One of) His thing(s) is actually that he looks up very early then gets his head down to play the ball, which catches him out if situations change. It wasn't out of line just a bit silly but you seem to be on a crusade against Barkley because he scored against your side last year so idk keep going with that I guess.
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May 8, 2014 16:06
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They're proposing to kill lower league football in this country to get an extra 30 Englishmen playing in the top flight, and it won't happen. Some of the proposals might work but the b team one is a nonsense and I bet you any money Danny Mills suggested it.
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May 8, 2014 16:07
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Jose posted:In case anyone is curious, the clubs that Dyke says are in support of B team's are Man Utd/City, Spurs, Stoke and Liverpool That's loving wank that Stoke are in support of this. We've spent the best part of the last 30 years in the second and third tiers so I would have thought we'd have a little more understanding that no one wants to see loving B teams.
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May 8, 2014 16:10
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Raphael Honigstein was saying on Twitter that B teams in Germany haven't been successful and are mostly going to be abandoned over the next few years as clubs move towards the loan system. They've wrecked the lower leagues for other teams because they don't draw any crowds and have unfair advantages, but the gap in quality between where they are and the top flight is too wide for it to be effective training.
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May 8, 2014 16:11
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Duncan Sperguson posted:It wasn't out of line just a bit silly but you seem to be on a crusade against Barkley because he scored against your side last year so idk keep going with that I guess. Did he score against us? Who hasn't? I'm not anti-Barkley I'm anti-England.
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May 8, 2014 16:18
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Hegay posted:Seems like the sorta thing that might end up in the courts because it would kill the British football pyramid? Also can't the Football League just tell em to gently caress off as the Prem and Football League is two different entities?
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May 8, 2014 16:22
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Eric Cantonese posted:How many teams have not gotten relegated after firing Allardyce? It's a curse.
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May 8, 2014 16:33
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TheRat posted:The years from ages 5 to 8 are absolutely vital because youngsters are totally receptive to everything you tell them, and they have not developed any bad habits. Up to the age of 11 The Rix Doctrine
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May 8, 2014 16:49
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It'd be cool and good if the league actually turned into the sport socialism that bigsoccer et al complain about. Let whatever oil sheikhs spend whatever money they like, but they also have to invest an equal amount into every other club, and then same amount into the FL. £1bn for every club in the pl. Phwoar. ; and an Etihad complex worth of money for facilities all across league 1 and down.
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May 8, 2014 17:32
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Frimpong was released by Barnsley yesterday. He only made 9 appearances, but I don't know if that was due to being poo poo or injured. I thought he'd be good enough to make it in yoyo team, but I guess doing your ACL twice will hurt your career. Not dench.
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May 8, 2014 17:39
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I don't see how increasing the number of required homegrown slots is going to improve the national team. Are we really supposed to believe that there are some unnaturally talented potential world beaters that just never got a chance to prove themselves? It seems to me like it's just going to lower the quality of the league, which in turn will mean that national team players in England will be up against lower quality players on a weekly basis rather than facing challenging competition every single game.
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May 8, 2014 18:27
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SpaceGirlArt posted:I don't see how increasing the number of required homegrown slots is going to improve the national team. Are we really supposed to believe that there are some unnaturally talented potential world beaters that just never got a chance to prove themselves? It seems to me like it's just going to lower the quality of the league, which in turn will mean that national team players in England will be up against lower quality players on a weekly basis rather than facing challenging competition every single game. Yes, basically. Players like Sinclair or McEachran have a lot of natural talent but not getting meaningful games stops them developing properly because they aren't ever going to develop the sort of in-game decision making they need while they keep getting snapped up at 17 and then rotting until they're 24.
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