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darkpriest posted:While you could get two shots out of a 4k image (wide and closeup) by keyframing and enlarging, I still want more then just a 4K image. Many went out and bought the new sony 4K video camera. I have a much bigger interest in a wider dynamic range or a RAW image where you can adjust exposures and highlights in post. Kinda surprised most things aren't shot in RAW already. Its a huge bonus to iq down the road. Im glad you are doing it. Another annoying thing is the sound levels are always all over the map. It would be funny/cool if the industry adopted the dolby spec for loudness in a theater. This would require quick mixes of the material though to make sure things don't get too loud. But all the material would be at the same volume standard. Very professional. pm me if you want help with that  It would be fun to just do it and have a made up name in the credits.
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This kinda builds on one of my earlier questions, but I'd like to ask it as a separate one since it gets into a more specific subject.Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:Do you know of any performers who have had notable problems with stalkers harassing them, or with creepy people in general just being pests? How do they normally deal with stuff like that? What has happened with that PornWikileaks site since it popped up several years back? Has it caused any significant problems for anyone in the industry? And what has become of the site itself since then, or the guy running it? I ask because I remember taking a look at that site a few years ago when there was a GBS thread about it, and there was a LOT of really personal stuff posted about a bunch of girls. I remember the Alexis Texas page in particular had the names of some of her family members, and I think there were addresses posted on it too. And that wasn't even one of the worst ones... apparently any time somebody tried to have anything about themselves removed from the site, the guy running it would respond by adding even more personal poo poo. He was also kinda racist and typically went after black/latina/Jewish/whatever actresses a bit worse than white actresses. As I recall, the site was run by an ex-male performer who had been blacklisted from the industry after contracting HIV, apparently because he was really pissed about being forced to leave. There was some talk about the legality of having the site shut down because of it being hosted somewhere in Europe, but I'd like to know if anything ever came of that. I. M. Gei fucked around with this message at 07:14 on May 6, 2014 |
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What's with all the terrible actors? Like, I get that it's about the sex and everything, but as someone who's done tons of stage performance, seeing really weak acting performances just takes me out of the experience. Yes, I'm that guy. Where can I find porn that's acted well?
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Austrian mook posted:What's with all the terrible actors? Like, I get that it's about the sex and everything, but as someone who's done tons of stage performance, seeing really weak acting performances just takes me out of the experience. Yes, I'm that guy. Where can I find porn that's acted well? Facial Abuse and Max Hardcore stuff is very well acted. The performances of the female talent really convinces me a little bit of them is dying inside second by second. So hot.
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Exioce posted:Facial Abuse and Max Hardcore stuff is very well acted. The performances of the female talent really convinces me a little bit of them is dying inside second by second. So hot. I don't think they're acting in that stuff.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:I'm curious about personality clashes in the industry. Are cases of drama often? Have you had to deal with performers with a lot of negative personality? There are elements of the industry where it is sometimes like the 13th grade in high school. This tends to be within the talent pool especially with the younger performers. What generally happens is drama starts between performers for whatever reason and then as people grow in the industry they realize to avoid drama. I avoid negativity as much as possible. My personality isn't exactly a shinning example of positive outlook on life. I can be little negative, but that doesn't have to do with drama. I just generally don't trust most people. That has nothing to do with the industry. I've been like that most of my life. The majority of drama comes from friendships falling apart, relationships between performers ending, and the competitive nature the performers have with one another (both male and female). quote:Where would you like to see the direction porn goes into the future? I think episodic type scenarios would be interesting. Almost like a soap opera, where once a day or once a week a recurring cast of characters create overly dramatic stories that mixes sex. I'd like to see more interactive sex with porn. There have been attempts but they haven't hit a popular level. And a melding of video games mixed with adult content. quote:Seeing as how crossover is a big chat right now, and I'm not being offensive but from your opinion how much of it is just general homophobia and how much of it is "I would work with someone who did crossover, if they tested for HIV." I'm sure some of it is general homophobia. Some of it is mob mentality as well. A female performer might not care at first, but then is influenced by other performers. If the cross over performers work on the straight they have to test. No one can do scenes on the straight side that isn't tested. The assumption is if they are crossing over and still active, or if they were active gay performers in the past, then they must be engaging in homosexual activity in their personal life. Obviously that can't be proven. That is where some of the homophobia comes from.
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ThomasPaine posted:I know, I was more wondering how it is legal. There are bits I've seen where the actress has been clearly distressed and they've just kept on pounding. Also, I'd be surprised if some of the girls aren't seriously emotionally hosed up by that kind of scene especially if they're not quite expecting it, so I wonder how those guys can live with what they do. Even with the more intense BDSM stuff it's always pretty obviously staged, but with FA it feels very real. It's either incredibly well done or they're getting paid to rape people in the most legally grey way possible. The consumer controls what is successful or not. Don't watch it and don't support it and will not be able to survive. The issue is whether it is obscene. That is a legal gray area because it is based on a three prong test. That is something a prosecutor would have to charge them with and then attempt to prove in federal court. Obscenity violations are a federal issue and not a state issue. Typically under Democrat administrations, they don't prosecute obscenity cases. I don't know of a single obscenity case since Obama has been President. When Bush was President there were many federal obscenity prosecutions. Some were successful for the DOJ and some weren't.
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darkpriest posted:The consumer controls what is successful or not. Don't watch it and don't support it and will not be able to survive. But I'm not sure that the issue is whether it is obscene or not. Sure, it's connected to that and in terms of the legality of the produced media itself that is very relevant, but it's not what I'm getting at here. If you strip it to its bare bones, it is (arguably) a person raping another person on camera. They may have signed waivers and whatever but I'm not convinced that there is always full disclosure/a fully informed decision being made here. If we look at it like that, surely the video itself isn't the issue but actually becomes evidence of a significantly more serious crime (i.e. rape)? And seeing as how the videos are easily available, it baffles me how this hasn't been attempted. Of course having the production team charged with obscenity is made difficult by vague legal guidelines, but having individuals charged with rape (and/or aiding and abetting it) occuring in the production of the media is a much more simple issue. If a girl is clearly distressed, in pain, and actively saying no while someone shoves it up her rear end, it's a pretty clear cut case, whatever they've agreed to or signed. You can't waive your basic right to basic legal protection no matter how many things you sign. If I ask someone to shoot me, they're still a murderer if they do it. Take the example of child pornography - while there are now laws surrounding the material itself, the underlying principle behind prosecutions of producers has tended to rest not so much on that material but on the secondary abuse and illegality involved in its production. I'm sure a similar approach would be helpful against some of the more dubious sites like FA. It's not about the the content of the film that we see, its about the potentially illegal acts necessitated by its production, which the film simply provides evidence for. Combine the available media with a decent amount of personal testimony (or, christ, imagine an undercover operation), and I think those guys could quite easily have the rug ripped from under them in a very unpleasant way. And they'd deserve every bit of it. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 19:37 on May 6, 2014 |
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May 6, 2014 19:33
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ThomasPaine posted:But I'm not sure that the issue is whether it is obscene or not. Sure, it's connected to that and in terms of the legality of the produced media itself that is very relevant, but it's not what I'm getting at here. If you strip it to its bare bones, it is (arguably) a person raping another person on camera. They may have signed waivers and whatever but I'm not convinced that there is always full disclosure/a fully informed decision being made here. If we look at it like that, surely the video itself isn't the issue but actually becomes evidence of a significantly more serious crime (i.e. rape)? And seeing as how the videos are easily available, it baffles me how this hasn't been attempted. Of course having the production team charged with obscenity is made difficult by vague legal guidelines, but having individuals charged with rape (and/or aiding and abetting it) occuring in the production of the media is a much more simple issue. If a girl is clearly distressed, in pain, and actively saying no while someone shoves it up her rear end, it's a pretty clear cut case, whatever they've agreed to or signed. You can't waive your basic right to basic legal protection no matter how many things you sign. If I ask someone to shoot me, they're still a murderer if they do it. but wait. You have no idea what the safe word is. I mean her saying no could be code for yeah we are cool or anything she says except the safe word is fine. That stuff while extreme is someones fantasy lived out, you shouldn't just accept it as real. I highly doubt a bunch of performers are going to continually walk into a torture chamber and "get raped". That site wouldn't be up for long.
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Jst0rm posted:but wait. You have no idea what the safe word is. I mean her saying no could be code for yeah we are cool or anything she says except the safe word is fine. That stuff while extreme is someones fantasy lived out, you shouldn't just accept it as real. I highly doubt a bunch of performers are going to continually walk into a torture chamber and "get raped". That site wouldn't be up for long. sorry my mistake many FA girls are repeat performers silly me e: sorry, drunkpost ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 13:37 on May 7, 2014 |
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ThomasPaine posted:sorry my mistake many FA girls are repeat performers silly me It's fully possible that something illicit is going on and maybe they are taking advantage of new performers, but it's also possible that they are saying "so what safeword do you want to use." People also do really dumb things for money. I don't think we will get anywhere with sarcastic responses. Let's go back to something you said earlier. ThomasPaine posted:If you strip it to its bare bones, it is (arguably) a person raping another person on camera. They may have signed waivers and whatever but I'm not convinced that there is always full disclosure/a fully informed decision being made here. There was a studio in Japan that was doing exactly what you described here. They would lure new girls in saying that they would perform a few scenes with one guy. What they really did was bring the girl in, do a normal scene or two, then have a ton of guys flood in or do anal without consent. They got away with it for a really long time until one of the actresses got seriously injured and reported it to police under advice from a hospital. A few of the other actresses who were injured stepped forward as well I believe, which helped shut the studio down. I wish I could remember the name of the studio for you, but it's hard enough to find info on them in English as it is. I've seen most of one of their videos a long time ago, and it's really horrific. I don't see how a place doing that could last very long in America, but then I don't know a lot about porn companies and how they manage themselves. Only what I know from Darkpriest's threads.
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So this is probably kind of an odd question. Some sites (I'm thinking specifically of X-art, Passion HD, etc.) seem to have, for lack of a better description, significantly hotter young ladies than what most people consider 'main stream' porn. Is there a different market for that type of 'softer' porn that attracts different performers, or do they just offer more money, or is it an agent thing? I know there are lots of crazy hot girls in all walks of porn (your current girl friend being a perfect example), but those sites don't seem to have any performers that aren't way above average, and I've seen very little cross-over of the performers on those sites to other well known sites (video box, hosed hard 18, etc.).
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The Locator posted:So this is probably kind of an odd question. If I can answer this based on my perceptions and a little knowledge of the performers, the X-Art guys use many girls you would find in the usual porn stuff, but they have better lighting and make-up (in the less-is-more sense). They also shy away from obviously implanted girls.
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Exioce posted:If I can answer this based on my perceptions and a little knowledge of the performers, the X-Art guys use many girls you would find in the usual porn stuff, but they have better lighting and make-up (in the less-is-more sense). They also shy away from obviously implanted girls. Speaking of make-up, do they get whole-body make-up done, since they are nude, or is it still just generally the face and maybe a bit around the genitals/breasts?
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Slaan posted:Speaking of make-up, do they get whole-body make-up done, since they are nude, or is it still just generally the face and maybe a bit around the genitals/breasts? I'm no pro by any means - only going by what DP has mention before and my experience of Instagram and HDR processing - but I believe there are certain types of lighting that can 'wash out' skin, reducing the visibility of imperfections. I wouldn't think much if any make-up is applied off the face.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Is there anything in the industry that you think has gotten worse since you've started? Obviously technology has improved, the talent pool has deepened (and I believe you said more of the girls are sexually mature, as they grew up watching porn - can't find the post right now), etc. Is there anything you can say has uniformly gotten worse, where you'd like to see it dialed back 10-15 years? It's a great question and one I've been mulling over. The biggest is obviously the profit margin is much thinner. 10 or even 15 years ago producers made significantly more, especially when DVD first blew up. Probably the biggest thing is something you can't really quantify. The industry used to be a fairly tight knit group. Everyone knew everyone. That no longer exists. I think the "mainstreaming" of porn has honestly not always been a positive thing. It has made it a more disconnected industry. You have major companies that control large segments of production, that are somewhat invisible and hide who they are.
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Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:Have you ever been to that Nudes-a-Poppin' thing that happens in Indiana every summer? Or have you heard any stories from people who have? I've always kinda wondered what the professional experience is like at that place vs. the general spectator experience, which I assume is... interesting. I have never been. The person that owns Evil Angel used to go often and even made movies around it. It has been awhile since he has done any of those. quote:Do you know of any performers who have had notable problems with stalkers harassing them, or with creepy people in general just being pests? How do they normally deal with stuff like that? Now with social media I see it all the time. Somehow they figure out their real names and harass them online. I've heard one story of a girl being stabbed by some obsessive fan. The girl wasn't murdered, but was badly hurt. He actually found where she lived. That is almost unbelievable to me, but that is the only truly terrible element of that I am aware of. I do think social media brings out sometimes the worst in people. Girls who do IR will get angry racist messages sent to them and girls who don't do IR get the reverse. I got an email from what was clearly a person of either Muslim faith or middle eastern decent, wishing Allah to kill me.
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Dr.Caligari posted:The problem here is, how do you legally define whats legal and what isn't? There is the Miller Test. It defines what is obscene by the Supreme Court. All Federal Obscenity trials have to prove it violates the Miller Test for something to be considered obscene and thereby not protected by the First Amendment. It has three parts: Whether "the average person, applying contemporary community standards", would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest, Whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable state law, Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value
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Imperialist Dog posted:How'd you choose your user name? I was a long time quake player. I found Something Awful because I had been interviewed by the owner of this site (Lowtax) when he was employed by Gamespy. It was for the site PlanetQuake. I ran a series of Quake, Quake2 and eventually Counter Strike servers called Yoda's Barn. When I joined the forums, I used by gamer handle since initially that is what I mostly posted about.
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Dr.Caligari posted:So every scene is that black and white? I know what I am repulsed by and what I think is 'wrong', such as these violent sex scenes (including heavy BDSM). But how could I or anyone write that into a legal document that serves as a guideline? Max was found guilty of obscenity in federal courtroom in northern Florida. The jury determined this via the Miller Test I posted earlier about. Prior to this Max was acquitted on every other attempt to the government made to bust him on obscenity violations. I believe that was their third attempt.
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Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:I believe darkpriest used to run some Quake servers or something for SA a long time ago. I don't use consoles very much. I mostly still play on PC's.
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Jst0rm posted:hey DP It is not my first. Prior to this I was in relationships with three other girls that worked in the industry, prior to this. Maybe 4. It depends how you define a relationship. The three were definitely longer periods, each one being a year or more. I've just dated as well. You tend to date the people you work with and I've dated here and there as well. You have to be careful because it can damage professional relationships. I don't really tell people what I do for a living. I'll say something like video production or photography. I tend to be vague and change subjects. The issue isn't that I have a problem with what I do, I noticed it tends to make people uncomfortable.
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pentyne posted:How do they usually cast extras/non-sex performers in scenes? Just put out a regular casting call for background extras like any other production? Yes, some of the casting agencies in LA will book extras for adult. Normally I just use friends and friends of friends.
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Incoming Chinchilla posted:Have you ever had to halt a scene you were filming half way through so you could go have a wank? No, shooting is very physical and draining. I'm to stressed to even think about that. You have a commercial product you need to make. There is no time for something like that. quote:Who does the cleaning up after the scene and are they paid well? The PA's do the cleaning up after the scene is over. They are paid a day rate or scene rate like every other industry job. It comes with the territory. I started as a PA. quote:Are famous pornstars often stopped in the street or are people usually too embarrassed to admit they watch enough porn to recognise an actor? I know girls often get stopped in airports. Often times you just get those long odd looks. It is uncomfortable because you are waiting if the person will say something and they just tend to linger. I can't fathom what it must be like to be really famous. It must be awful. I've only witnessed it when I'm out in public with someone in the industry who is well known, like at the mall.
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:This makes me think about how on Earth the girls can do this. Like, don't they get sore performing for hours on end and several days a week? What's their secret? Just copious amounts of lube? Being used to it? Or do they just have magic vaginas? Yes, they do get sore. My back kills shooting. My dick sometimes hurts after doing several scenes, several days in a row. There is no secret. The job for everyone is highly physically demanding. I know models that have to sometimes ice their vagina. I've had to go to the doctor several times for my back. We all get sore.
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Elephunk posted:Have you ever met or worked with Johnny Castle? That guy is in every other scene it seems. I think I shot him once or twice as a photographer for other companies. I've never hired him for any of my scenes at Evil Angel. He doesn't fit the Evil Angel style. He is someone you see in mostly Naughty America scenes.
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ColonelMoutard posted:The impression I get is that the top actresses in the industry work on contract and are paid relatively well, but the wage per scene drops pretty quickly thereafter. Do recruiters offer like a pack of scenes to a new actress who hasn't ever performed before? for example becoming a porno person for 2k/1scene might not appeal to very many people, but getting paid 10k upfront then 10k after for 10 scene contract might entice more people... is this what happens? or am I totally wrong and there's a never ending supply of 18 year old willing to have sex on camera... Not accurate. The only contract that exist are for performers that are exclusive to a specific company. They only shoot scenes for that one company. The benefits of being a contract girl is you work less, but get a paycheck every week. The downside to being a contract girl is your limited on the money you make. You only get your yearly salary. A popular girl that works for every company can easily make twice what a contract girl would make. Some companies offer a package deal to a girl that has only done girl/girl but wants to do their first boy/girl. Same with a girl doing her first anal scene. There are more new girls entering the industry then there has ever been.
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Jeza posted:So when shooting a scene do all the guys walk around with raging boners or does it no longer arouse them at all? Because whenever I think about that I laugh. That is silly. Again, you are in a time crunch. Everyone is there to work. Time is money.
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Have you shot "MILF" porn? Do the older pornstars have a different attitude than the 18-year-olds? Have you worked with Amai Liu or Alina Li? If so, anything cool you could post about them?
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darkpriest posted:Now with social media I see it all the time. Somehow they figure out their real names and harass them online. I've heard one story of a girl being stabbed by some obsessive fan. The girl wasn't murdered, but was badly hurt. He actually found where she lived. That is almost unbelievable to me, but that is the only truly terrible element of that I am aware of. I do think social media brings out sometimes the worst in people. Girls who do IR will get angry racist messages sent to them and girls who don't do IR get the reverse. Jesus Christ. I might have another question or two along this vein that are a bit too personal to be posted in this thread. Would you mind if I asked them over PM?
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Do you think porn is harmful in their portrayl of women? It usually puts them in submissive positions, even when that's not the focus of the film and has come under critisism for being littered with unintentional and intentional sexism. I just want equal rights in porn, is that too much to ask?
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I just this morning watched the 1988 PBS Frontline documentary "Death of a Porn Queen." It's interesting to see how much more comfortable we are, 25 years later, with both pornography and women owning their own sexuality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTpD7vhEHKw edit: ^^ Austrian Mook, there's plenty of harlot-friendly disgusting smut out there, for those who want it. 
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ThomasPaine posted:But I'm not sure that the issue is whether it is obscene or not. Sure, it's connected to that and in terms of the legality of the produced media itself that is very relevant, but it's not what I'm getting at here. If you strip it to its bare bones, it is (arguably) a person raping another person on camera. They may have signed waivers and whatever but I'm not convinced that there is always full disclosure/a fully informed decision being made here. If we look at it like that, surely the video itself isn't the issue but actually becomes evidence of a significantly more serious crime (i.e. rape)? And seeing as how the videos are easily available, it baffles me how this hasn't been attempted. Of course having the production team charged with obscenity is made difficult by vague legal guidelines, but having individuals charged with rape (and/or aiding and abetting it) occuring in the production of the media is a much more simple issue. If a girl is clearly distressed, in pain, and actively saying no while someone shoves it up her rear end, it's a pretty clear cut case, whatever they've agreed to or signed. You can't waive your basic right to basic legal protection no matter how many things you sign. If I ask someone to shoot me, they're still a murderer if they do it. I really don't think he's going to address this, but god drat. This actually makes it really strange that Max Hardcore only got nailed for obscenity, now that I'm thinking about it.
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SALT CURES HAM posted:I really don't think he's going to address this, but god drat. This actually makes it really strange that Max Hardcore only got nailed for obscenity, now that I'm thinking about it. No, that is stupid. As already discussed, those scenes are shot with a safeword arranged ahead of time so they can create the illusion of a rape scene. Do you go to movies and worry about all those actors being murdered on camera?
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:No, that is stupid. As already discussed, those scenes are shot with a safeword arranged ahead of time so they can create the illusion of a rape scene. Do you go to movies and worry about all those actors being murdered on camera? FYI http://clayrabeau.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/hard-city-indeed.html (NSFW)
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My attitude is "do what you can do and know what you can do". I'm not saying that you aren't abused if you feel abused but it's called "Facial Abuse", she knew the pay, she saw examples of what she was going to do... Some women in the industry like Jayda Diamonde can do things like extreme anal. Someone who cannot do anal or has never done extreme anal shouldn't sign up for an extreme anal or anal abuse scene - especially if they have an example of the work. I do think it's hosed up that more attention was not paid to her and her comfort but the studio and talent were probably used to people knowing what was going to happen and who are able to handle (or willing to handle) the facial abuse scene that they signed up for. This is a really basic explanation of my feelings but hopefully you can understand that work and performance and final product are a ~thing~ and process in this industry. People who cannot do certain jobs shouldn't sign up for those jobs. People who do a job and are shocked at how hard on them it is should not do those jobs again. Again, I am not excusing people being insensitive or doing hosed up things. It's just important to remember that generally people choose to do jobs that they can physically and mentally handle - this industry being no different.
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luscious posted:My attitude is "do what you can do and know what you can do". I'm not saying that you aren't abused if you feel abused but it's called "Facial Abuse", she knew the pay, she saw examples of what she was going to do... Absolutely, the issue I have is that these kind of sites seem to make the whole 'being insensitive and doing hosed up things' one of their selling points. If that testimony is anything to go by, and I see no reason why it shouldn't be taken seriously, it certainly gives that impression. As I've said, I've read a few bits and pieces about other heavy BDSM producers where the actresses have clearly said that despite how sketchy the scenes look their wellbeing is still seriously considered and the atmosphere is generally supportive. That's fine, obviously. These guys, however, appear to revel in intimidating the girls they shoot. I mean gently caress, in some of the clips I've seen they're either deserving of every oscar going or they're just not faking their pain and fear. There's also the fact that with one or two exceptions most of their models are little known, paid poo poo, and often have participated in only that scene - the implication being that despite the cliché a lot of them are unprepared and in it for quick cash for whatever reason. I guess there's an argument that they should have done their research, but I'm not sure it holds water. It all just seems very...predatory. Of course I might be completely wrong, and to be honest I hope I am. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 04:00 on May 9, 2014 |
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