UKMT May: Elections! (which won't fix anything)

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Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Kegluneq posted:

Jesus Christ this is the dumbest possible argument.

If you don't like it then why don't you move to North Korea. :smug:

# ? May 9, 2014 10:52

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# ? May 23, 2024 11:52

Trickjaw: Jun 23, 2005; Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene

JFairfax posted:

None of the above is bullshit, if you really dislike the other options that much then stand yourself.

Everyone can afford to pay, and potentially lose the deposit, of course.

# ? May 9, 2014 10:52

Saki: Jan 9, 2008; Can't you feel the knife?

Larry_Mullet posted:

You're dumb and wrong and loving stupid

Please tell me more about how Farage is totally Hitler, man.

# ? May 9, 2014 10:59

Trickjaw: Jun 23, 2005; Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene

Saki posted:

Please tell me more about how Farage is totally Hitler, man.

C'mon. No one said that. Ukip is a fascist organisation. It would be naive to say that there are no parallels.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:03

Serotonin: Jul 14, 2001; The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

Saki posted:

Please tell me more about how Farage is totally Hitler, man.

You're the only one whos called UKIP Nazis. You tell us.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:03

Rush Limbo: Sep 5, 2005; its with a full house

Saki posted:

UKIP are dumb and wrong but comparing them to Nazis is loving stupid.

They take on the stance that everything is the fault of someone else and spend most of their time in beer halls.

Literally the only difference between them and the burgeoning Nazi party is that UKIP don't want Europe.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:09

Elfface: Nov 14, 2010; Da-na-na-na-na-na-na
IRON JONAH

Saki posted:

Please tell me more about how Farage is totally Hitler, man.

In a time of economic instability, a charismatic right-wing leader moves from the fringes by blaming the nation's problems on a convenient 'Other'.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:11

Trickjaw: Jun 23, 2005; Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene

Elfface posted:

In a time of economic instability, a charismatic right-wing leader moves from the fringes by blaming the nation's problems on a convenient 'Other'.

And advocates protectionism.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:13

Saki: Jan 9, 2008; Can't you feel the knife?

Serotonin posted:

You're the only one whos called UKIP Nazis. You tell us.

The article I linked to did :shobon:

# ? May 9, 2014 11:15

SybilVimes: Oct 29, 2011

Well, farage doesn't paint bad landscapes, and (to the best of my knowledge) isn't loving his underage neices, so they're totally different.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:16

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

I'm fairly sure someone in UKIP suggested concentration camps for forigns as they're waiting to be deported.

Edit: Ah, yeah they did.

http://tompride.wordpress.com/2013/03/02/ukip-chairman-every-uk-city-should-have-1-or-2-holding-camps-for-immigrants/

Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 11:19 on May 9, 2014

# ? May 9, 2014 11:16

Spangly A: May 14, 2009; God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Saki posted:

Please tell me more about how Farage is totally Hitler, man.

is there any point pointing out to you that fascists aren't nazis and UKIP definitely are taking fascist positions, or are you going to keep arguing from absurdity to hide the fact you're a clueless wanker?

Also if you aren't defacing UKIP billboards then you're all terrible lefties and should be ashamed. gently caress all advertisement on the principle of "rich people deserve to gently caress with your brain" but gently caress it even more when it's racist.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:16

Serotonin: Jul 14, 2001; The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

and has units of paramilitaries protecting him

http://www.britainfirst.org/news/br...r-nigel-farage/

# ? May 9, 2014 11:16

SybilVimes: Oct 29, 2011

Gonzo McFee posted:

I'm fairly sure someone in UKIP suggested concentration camps for forigns as they're waiting to be deported.

'Holding camps', totes different.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:18

Rush Limbo: Sep 5, 2005; its with a full house

Gonzo McFee posted:

I'm fairly sure someone in UKIP suggested concentration camps for forigns as they're waiting to be deported.

They're called UKIP. No national socialist anywhere in the name, ergo they are not Nazis :v:

# ? May 9, 2014 11:18

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Trickjaw posted:

Everyone can afford to pay, and potentially lose the deposit, of course.

if you can't raise a deposit from your supporters then obviously you shouldn't be standing.

I have no problem with spoiling ballots, I just think that the idea of putting a designated 'none of the above' option on the paper is the worst possible idea.

for fucks sake, the lobbying you'd have to do to get that on the loving ballot paper and you might as well just get into politics yourself.

at a grassroots level it's not actually that hard to get elected onto a parish or city council, county councils are a harder of course. But it's not impossible by any stretch, I know quite a few people who have done it in their time, and most of them aren't the intellectual equals of UKDnD

# ? May 9, 2014 11:21

Elfface: Nov 14, 2010; Da-na-na-na-na-na-na
IRON JONAH

Spangly A posted:

is there any point pointing out to you that fascists aren't nazis and UKIP definitely are taking fascist positions, or are you going to keep arguing from absurdity to hide the fact you're a clueless wanker?

Also if you aren't defacing UKIP billboards then you're all terrible lefties and should be ashamed. gently caress all advertisement on the principle of "rich people deserve to gently caress with your brain" but gently caress it even more when it's racist.

I tried, but it was resistant to a key-ing. Someone else had added a small, unobtrusive eye-level sticker to it, on which was written 'lol no'.

A week later it had been painted blue, but not by someone who got an article in the Guardian. Maybe someone wrote a swear on it and the council had to fix it up.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:22

Spangly A: May 14, 2009; God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Ddraig posted:

They're called UKIP. No national socialist anywhere in the name, ergo they are not Nazis

By this argument Nazis aren't Nazis. They never did use Prora!

Elfface posted:

I tried, but it was resistant to a key-ing. Someone else had added a small, unobtrusive eye-level sticker to it, on which was written 'lol no'.

A week later it had been painted blue, but not by someone who got an article in the Guardian. Maybe someone wrote a swear on it and the council had to fix it up.

Good lad. The only one round here is the closest billboard to the police station in town, and right close to cameras for the train station. Creativity will be needed.

The ones near my anti-fa friends in Margate did not have that protection :v:

# ? May 9, 2014 11:25

Rush Limbo: Sep 5, 2005; its with a full house

There's a loving huge one near my house. I have to walk past it to pick up a parcel. I'm too poor to have the means to deface it meaningfully. Hopefully someone takes the Duty on themselves.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:32

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

�563 a month for this "Studio" apartment in London.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-44093635.html

Where's the toilet?

# ? May 9, 2014 11:36

Trickjaw: Jun 23, 2005; Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene

Spangly A posted:

Good lad. The only one round here is the closest billboard to the police station in town, and right close to cameras for the train station. Creativity will be needed.

Our one is opposite the cop shop too, so hosed if I'm touching it (The probability of most of the scuffers inside being UKIP voters is high too)

# ? May 9, 2014 11:37

Rude Dude With Tude: Apr 19, 2007; Your President approves this text.

Gonzo McFee posted:

�563 a month for this "Studio" apartment in London.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-44093635.html

Where's the toilet?

That's more than I pay for a shared room (in London) and 'amusingly' I couldn't afford to live in that cupboard.

Renting is hosed, demolish Chelsea and build high rises.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:38

CountButtula: Jan 5, 2014

JFairfax posted:

if you can't raise a deposit from your supporters then obviously you shouldn't be standing.

I have no problem with spoiling ballots, I just think that the idea of putting a designated 'none of the above' option on the paper is the worst possible idea.

for fucks sake, the lobbying you'd have to do to get that on the loving ballot paper and you might as well just get into politics yourself.

at a grassroots level it's not actually that hard to get elected onto a parish or city council, county councils are a harder of course. But it's not impossible by any stretch, I know quite a few people who have done it in their time, and most of them aren't the intellectual equals of UKDnD

Definitely spoiling in future as it really makes blinkered people mad.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:40

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

if you were doing a well paying contract job near earls court monday to friday that room would be far cheaper than staying in a hotel every night.

but still, loving ridiculous.

in my studio (let's call them what they are, bedsits) I share a bathroom and to be honest i'd prefer that than shoe horning a toilet into my tiny living space.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:42

SybilVimes: Oct 29, 2011

Gonzo McFee posted:

Where's the toilet?

Last photo, where you can see the shower, see that gap between the shower and the wall with the window? it's there.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:53

Prism Mirror Lens: Oct 9, 2012; ~*"The most intelligent and meaning-rich film he could think of was Shaun of the Dead, I don't think either brain is going to absorb anything you post."*~

Gonzo McFee posted:

�563 a month for this "Studio" apartment in London.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-44093635.html

Where's the toilet?

More importantly where can I fit my flatscreen TV and sky box, and how am I going to cook my sicilian streetcleaner's meal in that microwave?

# ? May 9, 2014 11:55

SybilVimes: Oct 29, 2011

Prism Mirror Lens posted:

More importantly where can I fit my flatscreen TV and sky box, and how am I going to cook my sicilian streetcleaner's meal in that microwave?

Ceiling mount, there's LOADS of space free up there.

# ? May 9, 2014 11:56

Trickjaw: Jun 23, 2005; Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene

Ugh Dellingpole gently caress right off. Nothing you think is actually right. Wanker.

# ? May 9, 2014 12:11

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Prism Mirror Lens posted:

and how am I going to cook my sicilian streetcleaner's meal in that microwave?

Boil it in the kettle.

# ? May 9, 2014 12:12

Brown Moses: Feb 22, 2002

Just got my EU elections ballot, half the parties are xenophobes and bigots, and what the gently caress is the Harmony Party? "An Independence From Europe" party's video starts like a Nigel Farage fever dream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO2ij6EorAc

Voted Green.

# ? May 9, 2014 12:58

Rush Limbo: Sep 5, 2005; its with a full house

Took a picture of one of the billboards near my house.

They managed to find the one picture where he doesn't look like a frog.

Also I'm sick at the blatant lie. They don't do gently caress all at the EU other than take their money.

# ? May 9, 2014 12:59

UnCO3: Feb 11, 2010; Ye gods!; College Slice

Brown Moses posted:

Just got my EU elections ballot, half the parties are xenophobes and bigots, and what the gently caress is the Harmony Party? "An Independence From Europe" party's video starts like a Nigel Farage fever dream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO2ij6EorAc

Voted Green.

"...A sensible immigration system, similar to Australia..."

# ? May 9, 2014 13:03

mrpwase: Apr 21, 2010; I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few

UnCO3 posted:

"...A sensible immigration system, similar to Australia..."

Stop the ~~botes~~ lorris

# ? May 9, 2014 13:07

Rude Dude With Tude: Apr 19, 2007; Your President approves this text.

No I think they mean housing asylum seekers in concentration camps and/or murdering refugees.

# ? May 9, 2014 13:09

big scary monsters: Sep 2, 2011; -~Ｓｋｕｌｌｗａｖｅ~-

Brown Moses posted:

Just got my EU elections ballot, half the parties are xenophobes and bigots, and what the gently caress is the Harmony Party? "An Independence From Europe" party's video starts like a Nigel Farage fever dream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO2ij6EorAc

Voted Green.

I stopped watching when that woman showed up on the screen, but it was amazing up until there. "Minds infinitely more bureaucratic than ours."

# ? May 9, 2014 13:09

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

big scary monsters posted:

I stopped watching when that woman showed up on the screen, but it was amazing up until there. "Minds infinitely more bureaucratic than ours."

No, it gets more amazing later on. At 1.27 a man shows up with a nosebleed made of hair.

# ? May 9, 2014 13:18

Rude Dude With Tude: Apr 19, 2007; Your President approves this text.

Good news, everyone!

We might get to do The Sports again http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/could-rio-games-come-to-london-olympic-bosses-make-secret-plea-to-use-2012-venues-9344084.html

Evening Standard posted:

London has been secretly asked if it would be able to take over the 2016 Olympics because Brazil is so far behind on preparations, the Evening Standard has learned. An informal approach was made by Olympics bosses to discover whether enough venues from the triumphant 2012 London Games could be brought back into use.

The disclosure follows growing panic at the International Olympic Committee over the shambles in Rio, where organisers are badly behind schedule. IOC vice-president John Coates has called Brazil�s preparations �the worst I�ve experienced�. He told a Sydney conference last month that construction had not begun on some venues, infrastructure was significantly delayed and water quality was a major concern with just two years to go. "The IOC has formed a special task force to try to speed up preparations but the situation is critical on the ground,� he said, calling the intervention �unprecedented�.

A source told the Standard: �At a comparable planning stage in 2004 Athens had done 40 per cent of preparations on infrastructure, stadiums and so on. London had done 60 per cent. Brazil has done 10 per cent � and they have just two years left. So the IOC is thinking, �What�s our plan B?� Obviously, the answer would be to come back to London. It�s very unlikely but it would be the logical thing to do.�

The chances of London being asked to step in were described as �infinitesimally small� by figures close to the Olympic movement, because it would be an unprecedented snub to Rio. But a source said: �If London were asked to do it we would certainly want to have a go.� One possibility is that the capital could share events with Glasgow, which hosts the Commonwealth Games this July.

London has hosted the Olympics in an emergency before. In 1908 the event was due to be held in Italy but a disastrous eruption of Mount Vesuvius forced a move. Will Glendinning, director of the major event consultants Allium and who worked on the London Organising Committee for the 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games, said there was �more than enough time� for the capital to be ready. �Yes of course it can be done,� he said. �One of the UK�s greatest exports is our major events capability. The expertise exists and regarding facilities we are a couple of years away � more than enough time to get things ready. If I were the IOC I would make sure I had a plan B and a plan C.�

Some 2012 venues such as the velodrome, Lords for archery and Wimbledon for tennis, could be brought back into action quickly. But the plan for �London 2016� would be a worst-case scenario because many of the other 2012 sites have already been converted for public use and transforming them to competition-standard venues again would cost billions and cause major disruption for the clubs currently using them.

Another difficulty is the fact that the athletes� village, which housed 17,000 competitors during the Games, is now being populated by private residents. A spokeswoman for the International Olympic Committee said the question of the Rio Games being moved to London was a �non-starter and unfeasible�.

Or, newspaper writes about something that's not going to happen, more at 11.

# ? May 9, 2014 13:18

SybilVimes: Oct 29, 2011

big scary monsters posted:

I stopped watching when that woman showed up on the screen, but it was amazing up until there. "Minds infinitely more bureaucratic than ours."

HG Wells was pro-european union (more so than just the EU, he felt we needed to duplicate the USA in europe), he'd be rolling in his grave right now.

# ? May 9, 2014 13:20

Renaissance Robot: Oct 10, 2010; Bite my furry metal ass

big scary monsters posted:

Regular exercise, people you love, a hobby you enjoy and eating properly.

Additionally, drink.

# ? May 9, 2014 13:21

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Manic_Misanthrope: Jul 1, 2010

JFairfax posted:

None of the above is bullshit, if you really dislike the other options that much then stand yourself.

Because that costs money to do, let alone campaign.

# ? May 9, 2014 13:21

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