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Squirrel nest would be ok in the current standard. It wouldn't go infinite and label you the squirrel guy.
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Entropic posted:That's not a squirrel, it's a chipmunk. Maybe you should have read the text on the page and figured out that they already addressed your pedantry!!
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May 9, 2014 06:10
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Zorak posted:Maybe you should have read the text on the page and figured out that they already addressed your pedantry!! I was distracted by the cute rodent.
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May 9, 2014 06:11
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Entropic posted:I was distracted by the cute rodent. But never too distracted to be contrary.
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May 9, 2014 06:22
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Squirrel nest would be ok in the current standard. It wouldn't go infinite and label you the squirrel guy. Yeah, without Earthcraft it's fine.
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May 9, 2014 06:29
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Getting back into MTGO after a few year hiatus. What are some standard staples for now and any upcoming rotation? Dual lands? Thanks
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May 9, 2014 07:32
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Tharizdun posted:Oh god. Wait.... It took me long enough to get exactly what this meant. Then ...   Bigger version of Ajani for those who want to admire the chipmunk in proper context instead of the halfsize thing Wizards put up. (Open it fully from timg, not halfway).
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May 9, 2014 08:46
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I know someone had asked in this thread why people hate the MTGO Wide Beta, and I gave a somewhat simple explanation, but this Adam Barnello column goes into it more deeply including an unbiased account from a new player/user who had never used the V3 client: http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/recurring-nightmares-ill-be-the-judge-of-that/
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May 9, 2014 08:47
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If I bestow Brimaz, King of Oreskos with Sightless Brawler with only him on the field, can he attack?
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May 9, 2014 09:31
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Samael posted:If I bestow Brimaz, King of Oreskos with Sightless Brawler with only him on the field, can he attack? Nope, he can't attack alone. The fact that he could end up not being alone later on (if the triggered ability isn't countered) isn't relevant when deciding whether he can attack.
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May 9, 2014 09:39
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Samael posted:If I bestow Brimaz, King of Oreskos with Sightless Brawler with only him on the field, can he attack? If it's just him attacking, no. What happens is the game looks at who is being declared as an attacker, so even though his Meowjesty never attacks alone, he's alone when he would be declared as an attacker. And that's all Sightless Brawler looks for.
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May 9, 2014 09:42
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suicidesteve posted:If it's just him attacking, no. What happens is the game looks at who is being declared as an attacker, so even though his Meowjesty never attacks alone, he's alone when he would be declared as an attacker. And that's all Sightless Brawler looks for. Okay, thanks for the answer. Still trying to make a block constructed deck which isn't naya or gruul. Goddamn this format is miserable.
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May 9, 2014 09:48
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We had a little bit of a rules discussion yesterday and I'm pretty sure we did it right but I just wanted to check. When Grey Merchant hits the field the Devotion trigger goes on the stack, then you can kill Gary in respones to that trigger preventing it from going off. It can't go off since Gary isn't on the battlefield anymore. When something like Nekrataal comes into play can you do the same or does that trigger happen regardless? There's always alot of confusion about these abilities and how you can respond to them.
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May 9, 2014 10:22
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lockdar posted:We had a little bit of a rules discussion yesterday and I'm pretty sure we did it right but I just wanted to check. The trigger actually goes off in both cases, what killing Gary in response to the trigger does is reduce their devotion to black by two when the trigger actually resolves. I think in order for killing the creature to stop the trigger, the card would need contain language like, "When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, if it's on the battlefield, do foo".
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May 9, 2014 10:28
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lockdar posted:We had a little bit of a rules discussion yesterday and I'm pretty sure we did it right but I just wanted to check. This is all wrong, but there is a line of play similar for gary. Gary hits play, his trigger goes onto the stack. As the ability goes on the stack, you also have desecration demon in play, bringing your devotion to four. This doesn't matter though until the trigger comes off the stack. If say, somebody was to overload a rift in response to a gary trigger, devotion will be zero when the trigger comes off the stack. Alternatively, you have the same board and someone ultimate prices your desecration demon, your devotion will be two coming off the stack. Once Gary's come into play ability is on the stack, it can only be countered by cards or abilities that stifle. Hope this helps.
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May 9, 2014 10:30
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Elyv posted:The trigger actually goes off in both cases, what killing Gary in response to the trigger does is reduce their devotion to black by two when the trigger actually resolves. I think in order for killing the creature to stop the trigger, the card would need contain language like, "When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, if it's on the battlefield, do foo". Yeah, this actually has happened in print at least once that I know of off the top of my head (Stalking Yeti), and it does work that way.
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May 9, 2014 10:30
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JerryLee posted:Yeah, this actually has happened in print at least once that I know of off the top of my head (Stalking Yeti), and it does work that way. That could probably be retemplated as "Stalking Yeti fights target creature an opponent controls" without any functional change, right?
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May 9, 2014 10:49
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Jabor posted:That could probably be retemplated as "Stalking Yeti fights target creature an opponent controls" without any functional change, right? No, or it would have received errata already. Yeti's damage is sequential, so the damage it deals may affect the other creature before it hits back - give the Yeti infect/wither. Fighting is simultaneous damage.
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May 9, 2014 11:54
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Homo for Hitler posted:This is all wrong, but there is a line of play similar for gary. I see, then we were wrong but now we know the answer. Thanks guys!
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May 9, 2014 12:49
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Woapalanne posted:No, or it would have received errata already. Yeti's damage is sequential, so the damage it deals may affect the other creature before it hits back - give the Yeti infect/wither. Fighting is simultaneous damage. Yep. If you want to see older cards that have been errata'd to fight, look at Arena or Triangle of War. I want them to reprint Arena in a supplemental product. That card gets so much cooler when it says "Those creatures fight each other."
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May 9, 2014 13:31
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It's a shame arena athlete has no arena in which he can be an athlete
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May 9, 2014 13:49
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All the world is an arena to the glorious followers of Iroas, friend. 
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May 9, 2014 13:51
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Ya I wish we had an arena Urborg too.
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May 9, 2014 14:00
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Squirrel nest would be ok in the current standard. It wouldn't go infinite and label you the squirrel guy. If squirrel nes gets reprinted in M15 I will make a Murdersquirrel deck...it sounds cute until they explode in fiery goodness!
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May 9, 2014 14:08
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Does anyone know if there's a way in Forge to disable the four-per-deck rule? I want to make that ridiculous sixty Chancellor of the Dross deck but it won't let me add more than four.
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May 9, 2014 14:11
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Kraus posted:Does anyone know if there's a way in Forge to disable the four-per-deck rule? I want to make that ridiculous sixty Chancellor of the Dross deck but it won't let me add more than four. Game Settings -> Preferences -> Gameplay -> Uncheck "Deck Conformance" should do it
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May 9, 2014 14:19
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I like to think that Ajani brought that little guy along specifically so he could whap some +1+1 counters down on him.
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May 9, 2014 14:33
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Sarcastro posted:I like to think that Ajani brought that little guy along specifically so he could whap some +1+1 counters down on him. He should be riding the chipmunk, then. Fake edit: that's the new name for casting Ajani. I tap 5 mana, and it's time to ride the chipmunk.
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May 9, 2014 15:23
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Brian Kibler @bmkibler 10h I am sufficiently annoyed in this brief foray into the beta that it's already earned a blog post on its faults. Great news everyone, Kibler has tweeted about how bad the new client is. The chance of wotc fixing the client is now +0.0001 -- an increase of ∞ over the previous level of 0.
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May 9, 2014 15:56
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Tharizdun posted:A math nerd cruched the numbers and found that except in extreme edge cases (like legacy burn decks that run south of 14 lands) there is no appreciable "deck thinning" advantage to any number of fetches that a regular player playing between 5-15 games a week would notice before the heat death of the universe. I was talking about the percentage difference between running basics vs. duals.
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May 9, 2014 16:31
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Oh I crunched that data the time before the time before last time this came up in the thread, but I must have deleted it cleaning up my google docs at one point. I saw a more detailed analysis that showed that in most situations/decks, it takes 4 fetch activations to raise the expected number of non-land cards you draw in the game by 1. While that's not a lot, it's basically a Sylvan Library rate which is ok if you ask me.
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Tournament Rules 2.12 posted:At Competitive and Professional Rules Enforcement Level, players may not use electronic devices once they have sat for their match or during deck construction, with the exception of taking brief personal calls with the opponent's permission. Not that I'm playing in all that many Competitive and Pro level events, but I've been using one of these to keep track of life totals lately:  I'm assuming that it wouldn't be allowed even though it's basically just a replacement for pen and paper. Hopefully they don't end up extending the ban to Regular/FNM, it's been really nice not having to scramble around for paper when I run out or have a life pad explode in my backpack.
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May 9, 2014 16:41
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I would think it would be fine, but you should clear it with the HJ before round 1. The intent of the new rule is mainly for cell phones and tablets.
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May 9, 2014 16:46
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change my name posted:15 different versions of Ornithopter and Spellbook each, 30 colorless affinity cards. This reminds me of a deck idea I had. Bear with me here because I know it's not legal in any format and there are better uses for the cards involved. Everyone just shut up and come along for the ride. Ornithopters. Shield Spheres. As much toughness for 0 or 1-cost artifact creatures as we can get. This will power out massive amounts of mana from Tolarian Academy. That mana gets dumped into Blue Sun's Zeniths to draw more until we hit Phenax and start milling with all our cheap artifact creatures, while continuing to draw more and more heat. Eventually we redraw USZ and, powered by a massive Tolarian Academy (we can even use them twice because of the new legendary rule!), point it at the opponent to finish the job. I call this deck... The University of Phenax 
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May 9, 2014 16:57
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Take it to a Vintage Tournament and watch the confusion
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May 9, 2014 17:24
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Agentdark posted:Take it to a Vintage Tournament and watch the confusion It sounds a little like Cheerios. It's totally Vintage playable. ...it probably actually is. Vintage is strange. So we had a strange rules question come up. I had Wild Pair out and resolved a firebreather. When does Wild Pair check the total P/T? On arrival or on resolution of the ability. In other words, can I pump my guy to get bigger creatures or am I stuck getting something with his original P/T? I was pretty sure it checks on resolution, a la Gary, so I can get bigger dudes out of it, but my friend who totally knows a dude who was taking his judge test, was told otherwise. Edit: vvvvv Oh yeah. I forgot about Gatherer, ha. Well now everyone knows. suicidesteve fucked around with this message at 17:55 on May 9, 2014 |
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suicidesteve posted:It sounds a little like Cheerios. http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=207929 Looks like you were right.
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ScarletBrother posted:I would think it would be fine, but you should clear it with the HJ before round 1. The intent of the new rule is mainly for cell phones and tablets. Yeah, I'd probably bring it and ask when I do go to another Competitive event, it's not like vendors handing out life pads are in short supply if it doesn't get approved.
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I come up with this stupid idea just to string you jerks along for an awful pun and you respond by going "man that almost sounds viable."
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I come up with this stupid idea just to string you jerks along for an awful pun and you respond by going "man that almost sounds viable." If it helps, I liked the pun 
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