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CharlestheHammer posted:Probably, if they don't win the beginning war, they probably just imploded. It's also possible that another dynasty overthrew them or inherited e_persia from them, which puts another big dynastic name where the Seljuk blob used to be.
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How can I vassalize the Pope? I just formed the Empire of Italia and I thought I was gonna get a de jure claim on his lands, but I didn't.
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May 10, 2014 06:34
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Bold Robot posted:How can I vassalize the Pope? I just formed the Empire of Italia and I thought I was gonna get a de jure claim on his lands, but I didn't. Create an antipope and press his claim on Rome. You'll need to be in Free Investiture to do it.
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May 10, 2014 06:40
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Thrasophius posted:I thought taking Rome triggers crusades if you aren't their religion? Or does it not trigger if a heresy takes it? Taking Rome is a great idea though, because I've never seen an unlanded Pope call a crusade.
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May 10, 2014 07:41
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Okay, HIP is neat, but is there any way to remove the changes it makes to people's faces? Most I've seen are unchanged, Vandad and others in the east look far worse (besides Vandad's nose and mouth having migrated away from each other, Ya'qub Saffar's mouth is off-center), and anyone who's been blinded has a weird black thing covering the upper half of their faces. It's really annoying. Also, it's rather frustrating how hard it is to change a province's religion; I can sort of understand why they'd do that but apparently heresies are much more common, as I've had two spring up, one of which is giving the province a +50% revolt chance, and I can't do a thing about it because the chances of my mobad accomplishing anything are <5%. Edit: And yet somehow he managed, in both heretic provinces. Wow. Not bad, man. Not bad at all. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 10:20 on May 10, 2014 |
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May 10, 2014 08:45
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So I just got the anti christ event chain for the first time for my daughter, but I'm Orthodox and a Serene Doge. How do I take advantage of this?
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May 10, 2014 11:52
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Hamburger Test posted:So I just got the anti christ event chain for the first time for my daughter, but I'm Orthodox and a Serene Doge. How do I take advantage of this? In no particular way you can take an advantage out of this. You get some fun events, but they're actually making your life harder instead of easier. The only good thing you get with the event are exceptionally good female commanders, who will join your court once they've heard of your child. Marry them, or have your demon child marry them (if it's a boy of course). You'll get some good genetics this way.
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May 10, 2014 12:17
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So is there any way other than playing as a liege and turning one of you vassals into a merchant republic to become a new one? I want to become one myself by myself. Perhaps revoking a mayoral seat and giving it to my heir as a duchy level vassal and becoming a merchant republic when he inherits?
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May 10, 2014 12:23
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Edit: Whoops, my bad.
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May 10, 2014 12:23
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Rejected Fate posted:So is there any way other than playing as a liege and turning one of you vassals into a merchant republic to become a new one? I want to become one myself by myself. Perhaps revoking a mayoral seat and giving it to my heir as a duchy level vassal and becoming a merchant republic when he inherits? This gets asked in the thread periodically. There is a neat little mod on the Steam Workshop that will do it, the only other way in-game is sometimes via Tanistry. Doing it this way will sometimes just make the game break, so the only way that is guaranteed to work 100% of the time is via the mod.
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May 10, 2014 12:39
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Hey uh, I don't suppose there's any way I could make my character Hellenic (I think it is?) to restore Italy's true faith in an otherwise legitimate ironman game - like via console or editing save files - then continuing on normally, is there? I know I could just do it with the ruler designer and play a non-IM game, but...I don't want to give up the opportunity to obtain cheevs, dammit 
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May 10, 2014 13:33
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Is there a way to turn on notifications for courtier children needing education? I can't find that anywhere.
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May 10, 2014 13:36
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Is there a good reference for how to play the Norse? I've only ever played the traditional European cultures and I feel a bit lost.
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May 10, 2014 13:37
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Playing as a vassal inside an empire is pretty fun. One of my favorite games was when I started as duke of Athens and worked my way up. One thing though: when you get big as a vassal, you have to deal with your own internal politics, your own vassals. And then there is no map mode to help you with that. The direct vassals map mode will only show direct vassals from independent realms, which you are not. When I was king of Greece inside the Bizantinne Empire, with quite a big realm (almost half of the empire), every civil war was a pain in the arse, everytime I had to click on provinces and titles to remember who is where, who is big etc. That could be solved with a new map mode "YOUR direct vassals" that would work exactly like the direct vassals one but showing the player direct vassals. Seems probably easy to implement, and it would help a lot when playing a vassal.
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May 10, 2014 13:58
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Rincewind posted:It's also possible that another dynasty overthrew them or inherited e_persia from them, which puts another big dynastic name where the Seljuk blob used to be. I was more going off the fact that he doesn't seem to think they are really a threat. Though yeah that does happen too.
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May 10, 2014 14:06
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Dick Trauma posted:Is there a good reference for how to play the Norse? I've only ever played the traditional European cultures and I feel a bit lost. Use your spare time to raid England or the Mediterran, and conquer your neighbours/Ireland if they look at you funny/You feel like it.
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May 10, 2014 14:07
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Major Isoor posted:Hey uh, I don't suppose there's any way I could make my character Hellenic (I think it is?) to restore Italy's true faith in an otherwise legitimate ironman game - like via console or editing save files - then continuing on normally, is there? Not in Ironman, no.
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May 10, 2014 14:09
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Aw, there's no special name for indian merchant republics.
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May 10, 2014 14:54
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Well that's really annoying. Holy warring the Saffarids for Kerman, we both had armies a little over 6k. Mine had more troops, but he was defending in mountains. I managed to win, losing over 2000 while he lost over 5000, most of his army, and... I got no warscore for it. None. Didn't even show up as a battle in the war summary thing. Reloaded new year started just after the battle began) and tried again, same thing. I guess it might be because 250 of the troops (probably a retinue) are listed as "Kermian Army (Kerman)"; thus for some reason making them distinct from the rest of the Saffarid troops despite being an enemy and belonging to the guys I'm conquering just the same, which would thus probably be a pretty major bug. Dunno if it's an HIP one or a base game one, but it's really frustrating.
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Roland Jones posted:Well that's really annoying. Holy warring the Saffarids for Kerman, we both had armies a little over 6k. Mine had more troops, but he was defending in mountains. I managed to win, losing over 2000 while he lost over 5000, most of his army, and... I got no warscore for it. None. Didn't even show up as a battle in the war summary thing. Reloaded new year started just after the battle began) and tried again, same thing. I guess it might be because 250 of the troops (probably a retinue) are listed as "Kermian Army (Kerman)"; thus for some reason making them distinct from the rest of the Saffarid troops despite being an enemy and belonging to the guys I'm conquering just the same, which would thus probably be a pretty major bug. Dunno if it's an HIP one or a base game one, but it's really frustrating. I had this happen to me too. Except it was 36000 troops. That was kind of annoying. I think what causes it is that if the initial combat is with a third party (e.g. someone making a competing claim on the same territory), it won't count for warscore at all, even if your actual target joins in with a much larger army.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:I had this happen to me too. Except it was 36000 troops. That was kind of annoying. That is weird. Any way to get around it? I actually have a manual save from a month before the battle, so if there's a debug way to fix this (apparently you can move units with the debug tool; given that the offending unit is only 250 troops I doubt it'll make a huge difference on the outcome of the battle, but I don't know how to figure out unit/province IDs to do this) it'd be great. Edit: Just loaded up the pre-battle save as the owner of the retinue, then disbanded it and saved again. Had to do it twice, once the day before the battle started, because the guy remade the retinue. Battle was worth a huge amount of warscore when not bugged, so definitely worth the trouble of getting around that. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 16:32 on May 10, 2014 |
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So I got a claim for the Duchy Latium which was pretty cool since I could storm it without incurring a holy war, and the Pope never has allies. Except of course you only conquer the duchy while leaving the original holders in all the holdings that the Pope didn't directly control. And since the papacy is a kingdom even if it doesn't physically exists, they are still his vassals. Okay whatever, I'll just become truce breaker and quickly finish the conquest... Except since the pope technically has no land I can't declare war on him (or his vassals because they are vassals). How do I solve this?
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May 10, 2014 15:35
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BioMe posted:So I got a claim for the Duchy Latium which was pretty cool since I could storm it without incurring a holy war, and the Pope never has allies. By cheating. That's a bug.
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I'm having trouble destroying a Kingdom. I'm an Emperor and I control 4 kingdoms: Italy, Sicily, Bavaria, and Croatia. The first 3 are elective, Croatia is gavelkind (I haven't reigned long enough to change it yet). I want to destroy Bavaria, but when I mouse over it, the "Succession is not Gavelkind" requirement is Xed out and I can't click the button. Why is this, since Bavaria has elective succession? Is it because my other Kingdom, Croatia, is gavelkind? Interestingly, I have the same problem with Sicily, but everything is working fine for Italy and I could destroy it if I wanted to.
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May 10, 2014 15:49
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Bold Robot posted:I'm having trouble destroying a Kingdom. I'm an Emperor and I control 4 kingdoms: Italy, Sicily, Bavaria, and Croatia. The first 3 are elective, Croatia is gavelkind (I haven't reigned long enough to change it yet). I want to destroy Bavaria, but when I mouse over it, the "Succession is not Gavelkind" requirement is Xed out and I can't click the button. Why is this, since Bavaria has elective succession? Is it because my other Kingdom, Croatia, is gavelkind? Interestingly, I have the same problem with Sicily, but everything is working fine for Italy and I could destroy it if I wanted to. You cannot destroy titles if one of them has gavelkind succession. This is to stop you from cheating the system. I assume you are emperor of Italy? That would explain why you can destroy the kingdom of Italy, which is unusual.
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May 10, 2014 16:00
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Torrannor posted:By cheating. That's a bug. Alright, how do you transfer vassals with the console?
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Torrannor posted:You cannot destroy titles if one of them has gavelkind succession. This is to stop you from cheating the system. I assume you are emperor of Italy? That would explain why you can destroy the kingdom of Italy, which is unusual. Okay, that makes sense. One more issue here - I want to change Croatia to elective succession, but it's saying I need to reign for 10 years first. I've been King of Croatia for over 10 years, but Emperor of Italia for under 10 years. I guess my Emperor title is the one they're dating it from here?
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Bold Robot posted:Okay, that makes sense. One more issue here - I want to change Croatia to elective succession, but it's saying I need to reign for 10 years first. I've been King of Croatia for over 10 years, but Emperor of Italia for under 10 years. I guess my Emperor title is the one they're dating it from here? That's true. BioMe posted:Alright, how do you transfer vassals with the console? You generally don't either give you the titles directly, or give them to the Pope so he is landed and you can declare for the counties. Use "give_title c_roma [char-ID of you or the Pope]" etc.
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Torrannor posted:That's true. Ah, the c_roma instead of c_rome was why I was having trouble, thanks. BioMe fucked around with this message at 17:04 on May 10, 2014 |
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May 10, 2014 16:57
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Torrannor posted:By cheating. That's a bug. Crap, I ran into this too in my Byzantine ironman save, which means I won't even be able to cheat it off. I guess that game is on hold until they patch that bug.
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May 10, 2014 17:08
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Crap, I ran into this too in my Byzantine ironman save, which means I won't even be able to cheat it off. I guess that game is on hold until they patch that bug. Would the Pope get one of the remaining church holdings once a bishop in the Papacy dies?
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Is there a way to turn off the water and other map effects? Trying to wring the best performance I can...
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Some things: The Pope usually becomes landed elsewhere after Rome falls. This remains true for at least as long as there are Catholic Bishops anywhere. These popes-in-exile can absolutely call Crusades. I had one guy in a lowly holding next door to my massive Norse Brittanian Empire call several on me, and then before he could get any allies, I marched my retinue across the border and seiged down his temple. The Pope can ABSOLUTELY have allies. With investiture, it's entirely possible the Pope has brothers and sisters elsewhere. Hell, the pope might have kids, elsewhere. Even if you get a lowborn Pope, he can still have bastards, which are still able to be married. As for this bug, Iunno. That's weird. I have no idea. Clicking on the vassal-bishop's face and looking at the Pope's screen shows him with literally no holdings? That is beyond strange.
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Is there any way I can prod the Pope to call a Crusade if he is my vassal, or is it completely random?
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Veryslightlymad posted:Some things: It's possible for the Pope to have to have allies but since dynasties seem to have no pull in the election and they can't get alliances through their children, it seems to be far more common for the Papacy to have no actual allies at all.
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My current ruler has a strong claim on the kingdom of Egypt. Yet, when I try to declare war on then, it says I have no CB. Is this a bug are there is something Im not understanding here? They are miaphysite and Im orthodox, if that makes any difference.
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Pester posted:Related to that, if you don't want to use the ruler designer, what's a good basque culture start if you want to play absolute cognatic? And does that allow more female counsel members like cathar does, too? There's (AFAIK) only ever one Basque start per bookmark, the King of Navarra (or his vassals). And it's actually kinda useless that they have absolute cognatic, in a way, since (if you're playing from the 1066 bookmark) you start off with ag-cog and the ability to switch to elective, meaning you can appoint whoever you want anyway.
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DStecks posted:There's (AFAIK) only ever one Basque start per bookmark, the King of Navarra (or his vassals). And it's actually kinda useless that they have absolute cognatic, in a way, since (if you're playing from the 1066 bookmark) you start off with ag-cog and the ability to switch to elective, meaning you can appoint whoever you want anyway. Absolute cognatic let's you hand out landed titles to women too, which is sometimes useful.
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Bold Robot posted:Is there any way I can prod the Pope to call a Crusade if he is my vassal, or is it completely random? If he doesn't declare one the minute it comes off cooldown, yeah, you can ask him. I *think* you go to the target you want to declare it on and there should be a Request Crusade diplo action, but can't remember for sure.
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Bold Robot posted:Is there any way I can prod the Pope to call a Crusade if he is my vassal, or is it completely random? I'd like to know that too. Except for the high priest of Zoroaster because once I reform the priesthood he tends to call holy wars randomly and my empires so massive that when the priest calls my vassals into the war I win and end up with vassals owning random kingdoms all over the place. I'd rather choose where the crusade takes place than have my realm completely ignore the middle east and march for Greece instead.
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