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man, that sucks  I hope he pulls through but that really doesn't sound good.I didn't give a rats rear end about cars or driving in high school. Still didn't for the first few years of college. Around 2006 I was pushed to get my license and still didn't really give a poo poo, at least till I borrowed one of the family beaters to go back to school. That was pretty awesome, still didn't care about cars as long as they ran and drove... My requirements for my first car when I decided to buy it in 2008, right after getting my first job: 1. must be boxy and 80s styled 2. must be 4x4 because Reasons 3. must be automatic because I have no interest in learning to drive stick 4. must run and drive With that in mind I was looking for a K5 Blazer, second or third gen Bronco, or Jeep Wrangler. Then I ended up with a horrible rotted hosed worn out Cherokee because Wranglers were out of my price range. The rest is history. (my parents thought I should use the $3k I'd saved up to put a down payment on a nice Honda. Glad I didn't do that.)
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kastein posted:man, that sucks Hey, my first (and current) car is also a Cherokee. It's my dad's old Cherokee that he drove until the clutch broke, and then sat for about 7 years until I got off my rear end and started working on it. Then stopped working on it for another year or two cause I bought a project car, drove their car, and didn't really need one of my own. Also transmissions were expensive. Long story short I got it up and running and it runs like a new car now. Also I am a crazy person who's put about $4000 into a car worth $300. Although in my defense the car has sentimental value. My parents bought it a month before I was born, and it's been with them since. I've the thing my whole life and plan on keeping it indefinitely. And there's honestly not a lot I can complain about with that car. Except that oil refuses to stay in the engine for whatever reason. ExplodingSims fucked around with this message at 03:43 on May 10, 2014 |
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May 10, 2014 03:37
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ExplodingSims posted:Except that oil refuses to stay in the engine for whatever reason. That's a feature, it's the built-in rust prevention system.
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Yeah that is a well known feature of those vehicles. I fixed all the oil leaks on mine when I had the engine out for the 5-speed swap a few months ago and it retaliated by springing a leak in the power steering hose. I've now owned two Cherokees and two Comanches. I technically own three of those right now but I haven't picked the latest Comanche up yet. ... plus plenty of parts vehicles. They don't really count though.
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May 10, 2014 04:01
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Terrible Robot posted:That's a feature, it's the built-in rust prevention system. Oh I'm well aware of that. I can't hate the lack of rust on the underside.
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May 10, 2014 04:03
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MrChips posted:E: How many of you ding dongs who own Automation would be willing to play a regular (monthly or something) contest where you're given a set of criteria and you're to build an engine/car to best fit them? I've been half-thinking about setting something like that up the past few days; just doing an interest check to see if it's worth the effort. Sounds fun, I'd be game to try this out.
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May 10, 2014 04:28
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When I was in high school, I wanted the same
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I keep trying to think of new cars I want, but nothing really makes me that excited about them. Old cars however, I've got my wishlist made up: I want a '48 Chevy Loadmaster/6400 converted to be car carrying flatbed, '48 Lincoln Continental swapped with a more powerful/exciting engine, and maybe some form of a 40's Buick Ambulance or something. Of course, my impossible to obtain dream truck is an old school car carrier semi, like so:  You can find those Chevy COEs easily enough, but I'm guessing all those trailer have been lost to time.  Still though, a man can dream....(about having a job that lets me afford all this...or the metal working/engine working skills to pull any of this off.)
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May 10, 2014 05:11
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I shaved my beard off for the first time in six months and now my face feels all weird.
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May 10, 2014 05:43
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Whelp. I think I have quite the tolerance built up. I drank 10 nips of Fireball and ate 1mg of Xanax. Barely got a buzz on. Went to go see Neighbors at the movies. loving hilarious movie! Now I'm at the bar slugging down Yuengling.
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Welp, went through a 12 week counseling program about fatherhood and came to grips with my anxiety about being a dad.  I guess it's on, although I'd like to hold off on starting until I make the career switch I'm trying to pull off. She's not getting any younger, though, so I have to move fast.
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ExplodingSims posted:I keep trying to think of new cars I want, but nothing really makes me that excited about them. Old cars however, I've got my wishlist made up: I still want a Jeep J20 or J3000 Gladiator, an M715, an M816, and maybe an M123A1C. I might get an e30 or something if I go nuts, but I can hold 0.95G turns in the XJ, and go fast enough to get myself in a lot of trouble, so I'm not sure what purpose it would fulfill. One of those dinky old subarus would cut down on gas a lot... but I can't find one with the right options (4wd, manual) in my pricerange. So basically all really big ugly old trucks. Need something really big towed or hauled though? How slow do you want to go and how much fuel are we talking? 
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GODFUCKINGDAMNITASSFUCKCHRIST I'm usually a big fan of credit unions. But I usually use my CU account to move money into my USAA account. I just got three emails from my CU about "rejected transfers". the total amount of those xfers added up to under $100. I have nearly $1000 sitting in the CU account that these funds were supposed to come out of (and no holds). And USAA will re-try all of those xfers once - so that's $35 x 6 in NSF fees, and who knows what I'll get in rejected transfer fees from USAA (if they don't close the account entirely). the tldr: gently caress Texans CU. As soon as everything clears, I'm closing all of my accounts with them. It's either DATCU (who I absolutely love) or CU of Texas (who has online banking from 1995) after that; I'll gladly take DATCU (and well, moving back to Denton in July anyway, so DATCU is the logical choice). randomidiot fucked around with this message at 12:00 on May 10, 2014 |
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May 10, 2014 11:58
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My high school lot was ~40% trucks, ~45% falling apart beaters, 10% decent shape older honda/vw/etc and 5% cars too nice/new/expensive to be in a high school lot. I was fortunate and somehow was able to talk Dad into the idea of a kids car that could be passed down so we picked up a 1996 GTI (5-speed, 2.slow). It's a good thing we got the GTI because the alternative was a Wrangler and I ended up getting into track days and driving schools and the GTI did pretty good. Then my brother started driving it and promptly rolled it one weekend while Dad and I were at the track. First car I bought with my own money was a 1995 Ford Ranger followed by the 1988 325is, 1990 Nissan Hardbody and 1980 VW Caddy...then I moved to Tennessee and started collecting German junk.
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May 10, 2014 12:48
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I want to do some reading about what's involved in supercharging an engine. There's a hundred books and millions of forum writeups about putting snails on things but I'm not seeing much when it comes to slapping a roots blower on a small (2 litre) engine. I've got a general idea of what needs to happen but I'm kinda blind on specifics (blower/pulley selection, intercooler properties, etc). Anyone got any suggestions for a good book on the subject?
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May 10, 2014 17:58
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Is Corky Bell's book still considered to be the go-to?
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InitialDave posted:Is Corky Bell's book still considered to be the go-to? Engine management stuff has changed, but the basics haven't.
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For snails yes, but he only touches briefly (one chapter of a dozen IIRC) on belt-driven boost. Granted the two concepts aren't that far off from each other, but I've read the poo poo out of that book already and I'm looking for something a little more specific to superchargers. I'm already into re-reading it again though, it is a hell of a resource.
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He has a supercharger-specific book as well.
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Tommychu posted:For snails yes, but he only touches briefly (one chapter of a dozen IIRC) on belt-driven boost. Granted the two concepts aren't that far off from each other, but I've read the poo poo out of that book already and I'm looking for something a little more specific to superchargers. The best thing I learned from Corky Bell wasn't from his book, it was in his shop. I had my Miata there and I was talking to him about turbo timers (lol, '90s). He took the turbo inlet pipe off my car with it running and showed me that when it was idling that the turbo wasn't even spinning. With that, as long as you idle for a little bit before shutoff, that's really good enough. Since then, I've never worried about beating on a turbo car, driving sanely the last couple miles, then shutting it off.
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I wish he'd get Kindle versions of his books. I have them in print but sometimes I want to search 'em.
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meatpimp posted:The best thing I learned from Corky Bell wasn't from his book, it was in his shop. I had my Miata there and I was talking to him about turbo timers (lol, '90s). He took the turbo inlet pipe off my car with it running and showed me that when it was idling that the turbo wasn't even spinning. With that, as long as you idle for a little bit before shutoff, that's really good enough. I don't know what was wrong with your car but a turbo should definitely be turning at idle unless it is some sort of valve actuated sequential system. Plus that doesn't really have anything to do with the point of a timer, which is to continue to circulate oil and coolant through the center section. Not that I'm saying anyone should bother with a turbo timer.
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meatpimp posted:The best thing I learned from Corky Bell wasn't from his book, it was in his shop. I had my Miata there and I was talking to him about turbo timers (lol, '90s). He took the turbo inlet pipe off my car with it running and showed me that when it was idling that the turbo wasn't even spinning. With that, as long as you idle for a little bit before shutoff, that's really good enough. I think the real concern isn't so much giving the turbo time to spin down, it's the amount of heat that builds up in the turbine housing which, if oil stops flowing and just sits there, will degrade and eventually start coking inside the center section, which is bad for obvious reasons. Driving sanely like you said still solves the problem, though. Personally I'd never install a system that makes it easier for my engine to run without the key in it, it's just begging to be stolen.
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Holy poo poo I nailed that interview. They are a solar panel company who is looking for a low-voltage CAT5 specialist, which I can do blindfolded at this point. They told me they'd call me on Monday or Tuesday to finalize everything. Totally forgot if they provide health insurance or a 401k though. Starting pay should be somewhere between $15/hr and $20/hr. If I don't get accepted into the inside wireman program this week in my union I'm totally taking this job.
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Super Aggro Crag posted:Holy poo poo I nailed that interview. They are a solar panel company who is looking for a low-voltage CAT5 specialist, which I can do blindfolded at this point. They told me they'd call me on Monday or Tuesday to finalize everything. Totally forgot if they provide health insurance or a 401k though. Starting pay should be somewhere between $15/hr and $20/hr. If I don't get accepted into the inside wireman program this week in my union I'm totally taking this job. Sounds awesome, dooo eeeiiiitttt
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I know superchargers always kind of run "engine specific" side. Yes, they make add on ones, but they never seem to do as well as an engine specific one. That being said, aren't superchargers geared towards bigger motors and turbos reserved for smaller motors? I don't know much about forced induction, but I rarely see many small supercharged motors.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:I know superchargers always kind of run "engine specific" side. Yes, they make add on ones, but they never seem to do as well as an engine specific one. Superchargers use a good chunk of engine power to power them, a little too much for smaller (4 cylinder) engines, so turbocharging makes more sense. However, VW did run the 1.4l TSI with twin charging (both turbo and super charged.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twincharger
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That's exactly what I was thinking about the power robbing part of it. With that being said, I know Mini uses supercharged motors with moderate success on motors smaller than 2.0L. Toyota did one as well on the MR2 but it didnt seem like there was HUGE power gains associated with it. Oh and they used it in that weird mid engine van too, again, no huge gains, but there were gains. They seem to really work best on V8 and V6s. Edit: I forgot they used them in the Saturn IRL (you know, because TT  )
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And I'm doing landscaping starting next week. $10/hr is better than my current $0/hr I guess...
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kastein posted:I still want a Jeep J20 or J3000 Gladiator, an M715, an M816, and maybe an M123A1C. I might get an e30 or something if I go nuts, but I can hold 0.95G turns in the XJ, and go fast enough to get myself in a lot of trouble, so I'm not sure what purpose it would fulfill. One of those dinky old subarus would cut down on gas a lot... but I can't find one with the right options (4wd, manual) in my pricerange. A buddy of mine had a J20 back in High school, and at the time I thought it was a kinda ugly truck, but now I wouldn't mind having one. It's a good looking truck, nice and square as a truck should be. Properly Modded to be used for offroading of course. Also had to GIS a few of those Military trucks and I think I might want a M816 too, I can see where having a big ol Crane truck might come in handy. Although realistically the next vehicle I'm probably going to be driving is some E-series van, if this HVAC tech course I'm taking pays off. How exciting.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:That's exactly what I was thinking about the power robbing part of it. Mini switched to turbos after the first gen. Cobalt SS is another 4 banger that switched from supercharged to turbo.
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Allpar had an interview with an engine designer who was pissed that the K-car turbos weren't supercharged:quote:Our biggest difficulties lay with detonation, or the detonation sensor which was, I think, unreliable. Given this, the specified fuel could not be regular octane. I fought this battle and eventually won something in the owners' manual saying better performance and longer life could result from the use of high octane fuels. This was a big breakthrough. I had several different turbo lease cars and they were fine; they never tasted low octane fuel. http://www.allpar.com/mopar/22t.html
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BrokenKnucklez posted:That's exactly what I was thinking about the power robbing part of it. Toyota's mindset with the MR2 and supercharged levin was to get more power from the engine without either a. having the crippling turbo lag associated with turbo engines from the 80's or b. having to put in a larger/heavier engine in a car intended as being lightweight and responsive. The gain was smaller, but the whole car stayed in the spirit of the thing. Also FWIW there are superchargers which are basically the business end of a turbo with a pulley instead of a turbine (can't remember the name) and they behave drastically differently to the usual roots/screw type blowers as found on big v8's, GM v6's, mercedes AMG's and such. They still use power to make power, but instead of experiencing steadily diminishing returns with increased RPM, they behave like a turbo where more revs equals increasingly more boost. They've gone out of fashion now because of the dual proliferation of engine management that doesn't suck balls and variable geometry turbos, which almost eliminate turbo lag and having to size a turbo as a compromise between power and driveability. Also you can use turbo 'laggyness' as an advantage when passing fuel consumption/emisssions tests.
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Slavvy posted:They've gone out of fashion now because of the dual proliferation of engine management that doesn't suck balls and variable geometry turbos, which almost eliminate turbo lag and having to size a turbo as a compromise between power and driveability. I kinda figured that Toyota did something to keep the car fun to drive. Back when Toyota made cars... instead of you know, appliances. Jaguar/Land Rover still seem pretty stuck on the Supercharger thing, and the new 5.0 makes silly power for its size. Pretty much every one else is using turbos now. I can't think of any other manufacturer that is doing supercharged power. Well, isn't VW still using a supercharger on its hybrid model? I feel like no matter how cool it is, that things going to be a complete bitch to fix.
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Slavvy posted:Also FWIW there are superchargers which are basically the business end of a turbo with a pulley instead of a turbine (can't remember the name) and they behave drastically differently to the usual roots/screw type blowers as found on big v8's, GM v6's, mercedes AMG's and such. They still use power to make power, but instead of experiencing steadily diminishing returns with increased RPM, they behave like a turbo where more revs equals increasingly more boost.] Centrifugal. Very popular for BMWs, likely because of the simple engineering/costs involved (not needing to replace the intake manifold). Twin screw superchargers do exist for them, but are 1.5 to 2 times the cost.
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I want to go with FI on my Miata eventually at some point, but in my head I keep going back and forth between an SC or turbo. I suppose it will come down to money, whatever I can get used for the best price
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BrokenKnucklez posted:I kinda figured that Toyota did something to keep the car fun to drive. Back when Toyota made cars... instead of you know, appliances. Audi have a few blown v6's running around. Not sure if there are any extant species of supercharged mercedes. Also GM has a blown corvette, cadillac and so on.
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I think Mercedes is done with blowers for now. Cadillac stopped using them as well... the Corvette ZR1 was the last blown gm model that I can think of. Some one correct me though if I am off.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:I think Mercedes is done with blowers for now. Cadillac stopped using them as well... the Corvette ZR1 was the last blown gm model that I can think of. CTS-V and Camaro ZL1 are still supercharged. e: if I was going to have a FI car it would be something with a supercharged V8. I have no argument as for why I just love big blown V8s. Galler fucked around with this message at 01:42 on May 11, 2014 |
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