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Install Windows posted:Uh are you really this stupid? Welp, misread one part, but there would still be no Champagne for you. Thanks for resorting to name calling by the way.
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That mayday crowd-sourcing thing did alright so far, 20 days left to go and 80% funded: http://mayone.us/
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May 11, 2014 19:57
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Everybody's 3 series is made in South Africa. BMW is only considering it here, and if they did it'd be in some shithole like my state.
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May 11, 2014 19:59
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McDowell posted:That's fine. Enjoy your overcrowded continent and decades of sovereignty crises. Microsoft and Apple can finally stop pretending to be American companies and will actually manufacture their products here. But Microsoft already does? It rarely makes sense to run your disc pressing in another country, and of course most of their stuff is entirely non-physical. Torrannor posted:Welp, misread one part, but there would still be no Champagne for you. American champagne is superior to French swill. 
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May 11, 2014 20:04
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:That's basically what they do now. Google's IP is in Bermuda, and the royalties it charges the other branches are how profits get shifted offshore. Behold! http://youtu.be/5ItLq9wJlwU
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May 11, 2014 20:05
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A bottle or two of Andre is a great way to kick off a Saturday of drunkenness.
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May 11, 2014 20:21
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DemeaninDemon posted:A bottle or two of Andre is a great way to kick off a Saturday of drunkenness.
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May 11, 2014 20:26
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If/when the Gop takes both houses, what are the odds that the Obama administration buckles and allows Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to be cut free or wound down?
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May 11, 2014 20:29
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Torrannor posted:Welp, misread one part, but there would still be no Champagne for you. If someone is stupid, calling them stupid is fine. Please never post anything to make me defend Fishmech ever again.
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May 11, 2014 20:33
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I thought William Weld was actually a pretty decent Governor of Massachusetts, at the time. Does that count? Given that his opponent was a socially far-right theocratic "Democrat" I'd say he was definitely the right choice.
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May 11, 2014 21:02
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MaxxBot posted:Given that his opponent was a socially far-right theocratic "Democrat" I'd say he was definitely the right choice. How'd that guy win the Democratic primary?
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May 11, 2014 21:05
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Hobologist posted:And ironically, Scalia is pretty good about criminal justice as far as I recall It's almost like people have their own varying, possibly internally inconsistent views that don't precisely toe a party line  It's important to remember that Supreme Court justices do not get onto the Court for being party shills. That may be a factor, but this isn't like Congress, where money can buy you a seat and you can be a complete idiot (looking at you, Steve King) and still get in. The Supreme Court by necessity has to be staffed with experienced judges, who understand all the various facets of law. The Justices are, in fact, some of the best people in their field in the world. Some of them think a little weird, like Roberts, or are gigantic trolls, like Scalia, but at the end of the day they know how the law works and that will factor in to the way they decide, likely as the dominant factor.
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May 11, 2014 21:10
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:What if I think almost every Kennedy 5-4 was good regardless of who was with him. On the other hand, so was Ginsburg and she owns. (I realize someone will find something to fault her for now)
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May 11, 2014 21:11
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Redeye Flight posted:It's almost like people have their own varying, possibly internally inconsistent views that don't precisely toe a party line Scalia is pretty terrible though and will ignore law and prior opinions (even ones he authored!) to get a result he personally wants.
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May 11, 2014 21:13
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:How'd that guy win the Democratic primary? It looks like a case where he was relatively unknown and had an unpopular opponent, plus a bit of luck. During the general people realized what an rear end in a top hat he was and there was a lot of crossover voting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_gubernatorial_election,_1990
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May 11, 2014 21:19
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JonathonSpectre posted:Everyone expected the Baby Boomers to be a whiplash generation who fixed the ills of their elders as well. Really? Because the Boomers came on the heels of the generation who really did fix many of the ills of the generation(s) before them. Boomers did whiplash and continue to work to undo many of the things that the preceding generation accomplished. Boomers had plenty and lived in the height of the seven fat years. Millennials will almost certainly whiplash against the boomers, and having been brought up in an era of fear and lack (Like the GI/Silent Generation before them), are less likely to succumb to nostalgia for the heady childhood days of plenty. Where that leaves X-ers, I don't know.
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My Q-Face posted:Really? Because the Boomers came on the heels of the generation who really did fix many of the ills of the generation(s) before them. Boomers did whiplash and continue to work to undo many of the things that the preceding generation accomplished. Boomers had plenty and lived in the height of the seven fat years. Millennials will almost certainly whiplash against the boomers, and having been brought up in an era of fear and lack (Like the GI/Silent Generation before them), are less likely to succumb to nostalgia for the heady childhood days of plenty. Where that leaves X-ers, I don't know. Depends on what age range you mean by "Millenials". People born in the early and mid-80s did now grow up in an era of fear and lack, actually quite the opposite.
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May 11, 2014 21:40
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ChipNDip posted:Depends on what age range you mean by "Millenials". People born in the early and mid-80s did now grow up in an era of fear and lack, actually quite the opposite. They certainly entered the job market in one, though.
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:I voted for Dubya in 2004 at a real voting booth. My only defenses are that I was very uninformed about politics beyond TV news, had only conservative family nearby, relatively privileged upbringing even in spite of being lower-class/poor, and Missouri isn't exactly a swing state. I voted Dubya absentee from my deployment in Iraq. I am an idiot.
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May 11, 2014 21:45
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moller posted:They certainly entered the job market in one, though. So did the Boomers. The 1970s weren't exactly an era of good vibes and a booming economy. They grew up in times of plenty and entered the adult world when poo poo was going south. Just like the Millennials.
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May 11, 2014 21:47
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That's okay; you both already got yours.
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May 11, 2014 21:48
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VitalSigns posted:I voted Dubya absentee from my deployment in Iraq. I am an idiot. Luckily for you, your vote would have only been counted if whatever state you were absentee voting in was close!
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May 11, 2014 21:56
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Luckily for you, your vote would have only been counted if whatever state you were absentee voting in was close! Thanks for being filled with terrible reactionary shitheads, Oklahoma, now I can rest easy knowing I never actually helped Bush get elected!  
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May 11, 2014 22:21
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In another day, much of your state supported the election of Eugene Debs.
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Yeah but that was the day when socialist ideals were commonly agreed to not include black people. The Southern Strategy turned Oklahoma as reliably Republican as it used to be Democratic. The 90%+ Bush counties in the panhandle were also the last holdouts of yellowdog democrats, still voting blue just a few years before.
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May 11, 2014 23:09
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Even Deeply red Indiana was home to one of the biggest United States socialists. In fact, here's his house! Used to walk by it all the time and visited it on a few occasions. He really was an interesting guy and everyone should read up on him... Though be prepared to get depressed, for his past does show how much infighting their was in the socialist movement, and internal and external union bickering did so much harm on solidarity... 
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VitalSigns posted:Yeah but that was the day when socialist ideals were commonly agreed to not include black people. The Southern Strategy turned Oklahoma as reliably Republican as it used to be Democratic. The 90%+ Bush counties in the panhandle were also the last holdouts of yellowdog democrats, still voting blue just a few years before. 
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May 11, 2014 23:18
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ChipNDip posted:Depends on what age range you mean by "Millenials". People born in the early and mid-80s did now grow up in an era of fear and lack, actually quite the opposite. I was born in 81  and that's generally seen as the definitive line between gen x and millennials, although I'll admit to being amongst the oldest of what people consider to be millennials even though I have no doubt that there are a few people even 10 years younger than I am that identify with gen x. On the other hand, my brother is only 3 years older than me yet I would never associate him with being a millennial since his political views are literally "gently caress you, got mine". No really, I asking him point blank if his view was "gently caress you, got mine" when it comes to helping people who are in need and his exact answer was "yeah, so?".
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DemeaninDemon posted:A bottle or two of Andre is a great way to kick off a Saturday of drunkenness. This is how I began a day that ended up in my top three Drunks of all time
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May 11, 2014 23:36
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fade5 posted:I'd ask what happened to the Native American votes from those living (read: forced to move to) Oklahoma, but the answer is the same as it's always been: there are so few left that their numbers don't make an appreciable difference. The Native Americans tended to support the Confederacy because for some reason  they felt like the US government did not support their interests, and hoped that a Confederate victory would give them independence as well. They even supplied the only non-white general officer in the war, Stand Watie, on the Confederate side. I would not be surprised if their votes tended Democrat back in the day
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May 11, 2014 23:51
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The vast majority of natives nowadays vote Democratic (like, up there with the percentage of black people that vote D) although I'm really not surprised that natives in Oklahoma are slightly more conservative.
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Mornacale posted:There are a ton of safe Dem seats in Congress, and they're very likely going to win the next two Presidential elections. And if not, then Republicans will enact pretty much the same policies that Democrats would--except maybe with more discrimination against minorities, which Democratic leadership is fine with so long as it ensures the minority vote for Dems for another decade. Like in 2009? Probably 
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fade5 posted:I'd ask what happened to the Native American votes from those living (read: forced to move to) Oklahoma, but the answer is the same as it's always been: there are so few left that their numbers don't make an appreciable difference. Nah, it's just that they weren't citizens so they weren't given the right to vote. Apparently I'm half right as They weren't given citizenship until 1924.
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The Millenials saving the country sounds pretty much like Fourth Turning bullshit to me. I suspect people buy into it as it allows older folks to continue their current behavior while passing the buck to someone else and gives Millenials an ego boost and false hope. I say this as Millenial myself; I see a lot of hope for something better and no substance.
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VitalSigns posted:The Native Americans tended to support the Confederacy because for some reason The Cherokee Nation were also the largest slaveholders among the Native tribes, though that's probably incidental to their present-day political leanings. AstheWorldWorlds posted:The Millenials saving the country sounds pretty much like Fourth Turning bullshit to me. I suspect people buy into it as it allows older folks to continue their current behavior while passing the buck to someone else and gives Millenials an ego boost and false hope. I say this as Millenial myself; I see a lot of hope for something better and no substance. Every generation has people who give a gently caress and shitbirds. The proportion of each is likely the same through the years, and circumstances dictate more how things play out. A bunch of semi-idealistic boomers went into public service in the late 60s-70s who are now all retiring/retired, and instead of the next generation of kids forsaking private sector riches to make a difference, those jobs are largely getting piled onto existing workers' duties. Yet all we'll likely ever hear about is how a smaller proportion of millennials are going to work in government compared to their parents.  http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/08/we-now-have-our-smallest-government-in-45-years/260701/ Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 01:13 on May 12, 2014 |
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The Cherokee readily accepted modern living (including slave plantations), that didn't matter when white people decided they wanted to take the poo poo of those other people.
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May 12, 2014 01:08
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Inglonias posted:If you believe that all of these scenarios, ranging from inconveniencing to apocalyptic in nature are coming down the pipeline here, how are you still functional? I'm being completely serious here, because I want to know your secret for staying sane. I get drunk every few nights, and mostly I'm going through the motions of life, killing time and am just curious to see how bad things get. I have absolutely no hope for the future.
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Spiffster posted:Even Deeply red Indiana was home to one of the biggest United States socialists. In fact, here's his house! Thanks for not bothering to actually say who it was
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McDowell posted:The Cherokee readily accepted modern living (including slave plantations), that didn't matter when white people decided they wanted to take the poo poo of those other people. There was literally a court case where the Cherokee's "right of occupancy" was declared subordinate to white peoples' "right of discovery." White settler: "Hey, I know you Cherokee have been living here since time immemorial, but I just 'discovered' this place, so you can get the gently caress out!" Judge: "Seems reasonable and fair. They were living there without ever realizing that yes, it was land they were living on."
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forbidden lesbian posted:Thanks for not bothering to actually say who it was It's Eugene Debs. He's from Indiana.
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