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Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
"Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Welcome to the US politics thread!

Our country is in shambles as the rich continue to pillage it and our generation is completely screwed no matter what your political beliefs are. Here we post to talk about the latest stunt and discuss the appropriate liquor to drink when they manage to further sabotage the country and the planet.

Big Stuff in 2014:

Military Spending: COLA cuts to pensions were partially reversed. After the Dems overcame a filibuster in the Senate, Boehner tried to get it through the House as part of the debt ceiling package and failed. He had to grab enough Dems to pass it. Pension cuts have been reversed if you are already retried, but remain in place if you are yet to retire. Sen Sanders (I-VT) and 10 Democrats entered a bill (SB1982) to reverse the rest of the cuts, expand intra-family transfers of the GI Bill, and increase funding for the VA for both health procedures and processing. It is currently filibustered by Sen Grahamn (R-SC). SecDef Hagel has proposed cutting the military's personnel while increasing military spending by $115 bln over 5 years with a focus on hardware. This is vigorously opposed as "gutting defense" by republicans and has them sneering that Obama would rather spend on food stamps than the military, going to show that up is down and left is right.

Legalized marijuana Colorado is reporting millions more in tax revenue that was originally anticipated, which has gotten a lot of attention from other states. Publicly it is at a majority for support.

Same sex marriage: Or, you know, just "marriage". In the wake of last years ruling we have seen a huge number of state level bans struck down, including in Kentucky, Utah, and Texas. So far Appellate courts are upholding those rulings, typically citing Justice Scalia's contributions to the ruling (which is also what is cited in striking down the bans, in some cases quoting him word for word). Through his ruling Anthony Scalia has literally, not at all figuratively, done more to bring about marriage equality in this nation than any other individual. Thinking about that warms my heart.

Ryan Ideas: Ryan dropped a big pseudo-academic report that was a "summary" of government anti poverty programs and their effectiveness. He declared them ineffective citing studies. The authors of those studies came out and pointed out he was completely misrepresenting them to support his ideas. He got beat pretty heavily around the head with them so one month later when he released his budget which was supposed to lead the charge in reforming social welfare, that part was absent from the pitch. Good thing too, in order to achieve his goal of a balanced budget in 10 years with no tax reform and no changes to social security while expanding defense, he has to lay in deep cuts to the social safety net. ~86% of the costs in the Ryan budget would be born by the poor. gently caress this guy. Of course now he is back on his anti poverty train holding summer hearings on it. When the Dems tried to get actual poor people to testify he blocked them. When the poor people tried to sit in attendance they were shown the door by capital security. Irony is dead.

Elections: Rough timeline, varies with state – signatures submitted in February, Primary in April, General in November. Strap in, the crazy will be out in force.

California immigration: Cali looks like it will grant work rights to undocumented immigrants. Obama administration will have to decide how to respond, similar to Colorado legalizing marijuana. If he accepts it, it will basically be backdoor immigration reform, and expect a major fight. This is now on the backburner, as Obama is taking executive actions on this. Biden has accidentally leaked hints about this Oh Joe.

Iran: More negotiations to follow the previous deal. Expect GOP hate. The House leadership has said they won't pass any new sanctions, so at least they aren't going to jam up foreign relations. Hatred of working with the Senate Dems to do anything overcame their hatred of Iran. Senate GOP is using it as cover to torpedo bills that would be problematic - officially the reason Sen Graham filibustered the veterans care bill was because it couldn't be amended to include sanctions against Iran. This is actually moving ahead now, at least on the US side because domestic attempts to jam it up have been delayed so far. However, the hardliners in Iran are trying to jam it up on their end, so we will see how it all shakes out.

Pink Crow: Mississippi Senate passed it most recently, Kansas it passed the house and died in the senate, Arizona it got through the legislature and was vetoed by the governor, Tennessee, South Dakota, Georgia, Idaho, Arizona, and Kentucky are all pushing the bills as well. Identical bills written by the American Religious Freedom Program popped up everywhere. If that sounds like the model ALEC uses, it's because they are joined at the hip through the Ethics and Public Policy Center and Heritage Foundation, with people in all 4 of those organizations performing secondment to another. Anyways, while all the focus is on the attempt to bring back Jim Crow laws against LBGT people, the legalese they are really trying to slip through is a redefinition of what constitutes an organization's rights, and what constitutes government interference in those rights. Under these bills if a private individual took a discriminating agency to court, the fact that it was in court would constitute government interference and allow them to invoke constitutional protections. Yes, I am focusing more on the legal corporate bullshit of it than the horrible repressiveness of it because if I actually need to explain why that stuff is bad just get the hell out of the thread right now.

Food Stamps: Finally got pushed through, with deep cuts (8 bln over 10 years). Millions suffering. Economy is worsening as aggregate demand slackens. Businesses cautiously complaining. Republicans defiant that their making GBS threads on the poor makes the poor better and they should be grateful for it. Debate is now about how much more to cut. Some states found away around the cuts but adjusting the levels of heating oil they give the poor, qualifying them for food stamps. Boehner is furious and looking for a way to reverse that and punish those states for "thwarting the will of Congress and the American People". State's Rights! (to poo poo on the poor)

Unemployment Insurance: Millions suffering. Economy is worsening as aggregate demand slackens. Businesses cautiously complaining. This has finally got the Senate to move into action, and they have gotten together a deal to renew it. Boehner is strongly opposed to it, and won't get a hearing in the House, defiant that their making GBS threads on the poor makes the poor better and they should be grateful for it.

Infrastructure: Obama has proposed $302 bln in new infrastructure spending to repair roads, bridges and the like. Even post stimulus out infrastructure is in huge need of repair after decades of neglect (thanks Reagan), and this winter really did a number on roads across the nation. Republicans are of course opposed to it. This is problematic because The Highway Trust Fund is almost broke Obama’s $302 bln plan is paid for largely through a $150 bln “pro-growth tax reform” tax hike on corporations rather than gas taxes or leaving them in disrepair. There’s basically no chance in hell the GOP is going to pass that, even if Obama wasn’t president

Big Names for 2016:
Chris Christie: His giving away of pensions to hedge funds turned out to run afoul of state anti corruption laws. His budget got ripped last month for being unworkable. David Samson is fighting his subpoena so he doesn’t have to testify against Christie.
Scott Walker: Book flopped, snubbed by most of the money, still the Koch brother’s favorite son. Not a lot of news of late.
Mike Pence: Making a lot of motions about it, speaking at conservative events, but with Daniel’s DoR shenanigans still hanging around Indianapolis we’ll see how far he goes.
Ted Cruz: toured Iowa to meet with organizers and district chairs in March, signed a "MEGA book deal" and endorsed in primaries (and connected with organizers and district chairs) in April, stumping in New Hampshire in May, still meeting with his gang at Taco Cabana to jam up things in the house and senate
Donald Trump: claiming he may decide to run for Governor of New York.
Rick Perry: Moving to run again, trumpeting the “Texas miracle” [utl=http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_may_2014/features/oops_the_texas_miracle_that_is049289.php?page=all]that isn’t[/url]. Latest “triumph” was paying Toyota $40 million out of the state slush fund to get them to move ~4,000 jobs there.
Jeb Bush: With Christie faltering he is the establishment’s man. Said he’ll announce at the end of this year.
Ben Carson: Still out there being a conservative personality. The PAC people says he has isn’t actually his, it is run by the team that ran Newt’s campaign in 2012. Grifting, the never ending saga.
Mitt Romney: Don’t laugh. He isn’t looking to be candidate again (for now), but he is acting as an establishment counter to Jim DeMint, arranging money and connections for the corporate side like how DeMint provides money and connections for the populist side.
Bernie Sanders: Talking about running, won’t have money for it, will be ignored, unlikely to even shift the message on economic policy.
Elizabeth Warren: Polls at #2 behind Clinton (behind by 23 points). She is adamant she isn’t running, and her book tour pointedly does not stop in Iowa or New Hampshire because she didn’t want to fuel speculation she is running. This has resulted in much speculation she is running.
Hillary Clinton: Basically hers for the taking. Of course, Monica Lewinsky just got a book deal. The 18 year olds eligible to vote in 2016 will have been 2 when that broke, so no one is really going to care.
Joe Biden: Wants it. Had the saddest look on his face when Obama talked about how Hillary was in a good position to win the nomination in front of him. It will be OK Joe.

Affordable Care Act: Over 8 million signups, 80-90% look to have made their payments, costs are following the expected “short surge, gradual drop” wave pattern that was expected, lowest rate of uninsured since they started tracking. It’s working, plain and simple. New challenge that the Feds can provide subsidies to plans bought through federal run exchanges instead of state exchanges was signed off by a Republican dominated Appellate court after being thrown out under the absurdity challenge by two previous courts, keep an eye on that.

Republican Health Care Plan: *crickets chirp*

Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.: SCOTUS heard the arguments. Kennedy seemed receptive because he took it as a challenge to abortion. Really no way they can rule on this short of "No, obey the law or forgo the tax credits" that won't massively upend some precedent, so brace yourselves. SCOTUSBlog summary

McCutcheon v. Federal Election Commission: SCOTUS struck down personal caps on campaign donations, though caps remain for corporations and unions. Welcome to the reason why we drink. SCOTUSBlog summary

Net Neutrality: It’s dead. Pretty much a natural outgrowth of Bush’s decision to encourage monopolies instead of cracking open the market like they did in every other country.

Town of Greece v. Galloway: In a 5-4 decision SCOTUS said you can have prayer before meetings, made it much more difficult to challenge legislative prayers, kicked the establishment clause in the jimmy, and is notable for its split along court religious lines, and Alito’s mocking Kagan’s line of questioning in his concurrence. The cracks in the wall are really showing lately, with heavy sniping by bush appointees at Obama appointees.

Immigration: Speaker Boehner tried to cobble together a meaningless soundbyte of "principles" so they would have talking points that made it sound like they were the ones trying to get things done, and even empty platitudes and spin was a bridge too far.

Tax Reform: Rep Camp (R-Midland, MI) is chair of the House Ways and Means Comittee and he finally came out with something. Unlike Rep Ryan's empty bluster this is fully articulated policy. Rather than raising the burden on the middle class through hikes and lies about who would be paid how, this placed most of the burden on the upper crust by closing loopholes and impsong a tax on the banks. It has also led to him being ripped to shreds by his fellow Republicans for breaking their core vow to never do anything but direct more wealth to the rich, and from Wall Street which basically froze donations to all Republican groups as soon as this went public. It isn't a great plan, but it is more than rigged numbers and carving out new economic rents to be handed to the rich which makes it a sharp break from any policy the GOP has laid out since at least the 90s. apparently in-depth analysis of the AMT changes work out to it being rigged numbers and a massive handout to the rich. David Camp has since announced he is retiring, in no small part thanks to the huge blowback on the plan.

Patent Reform: Made it through the House 325 to 91 in December. Repeatedly pushed for by the President, civil liberty groups, and corporate interest groups. Sen Leahy (D-VT) has a bill to get it through the Senate, Sen Schumer (D-NY) has a similar bill with a few tweaks that are agreed would be even better but would need a return to the House; both are stalled out by senate Republicans.

State level shutdowns: After the amazing success that was the GOP shutting down the federal government over the ACA, they have decided to take the act on the road, with multiple state level governments looking at shutdown over the fight over the Medicaid expansion. Missouri and Virginia are the ones that will hit the brink first, but several other states are in a similar position.

China: Their latest economic reports apparently look ominously like the ones from America in the fall of 2007 when the collapse of the housing bubble spread to the banks. Specifically the cause of concern is their TED Spread which is the gap between two interest rates, and used as a marker of the financial strength of banks. TED stands for Treasury Eurodollar and is calculating subtracting the interest rate on treasury bills from the three-month dollar LIBOR. Brief note from Krugman on it and here is a Bloomberg piece on it. China imploding would be so bad it isn't really worth thinking about, much like it isn't worth thinking about if an dino-killer sized asteroid was falling towards Earth. There isn't anything you can do about it, so just pour a whiskey sour and hope the central bankers get it right this time.

Ukraine: The Crimeans voted and have rejoined Russian. Russia under heavy economic sanctions, mainly targeting Putin and his closest fellows. Their stock market looks like it got hit with a baseball bat (RTSI is the Russian central bank, MICEX is the Russian equities market). Russia was bounced out of the G8 G7. International Finance majors are calling it the most hawkish move against Russia since Reagan and the Saudi's dropped the oil market, if not worse. Republicans are calling it weak and cowardly, because clearly we need to go to war. Bill Kristol is of the idea we should send $15 bln in aid to the Tartars to resist Russia. Setting aside the actual network of international finance means it would go straight to Russia and that we could do better things with that here in the US (bail out Detroit?), I for one question the wisdom of funding and arming Muslim militants in response to Russian border expansion. It does not have the greatest track record in the world. Currently it looks like Putin is pushing his plan of “agitators who are totally not special forces whip of a frenzy, kick off a conflict with the fascists, let the bodies stack up, then roll in when there is a call for assistance”. 38 people died in Odessa after a brawl between pro Russian Ukranians and Ukranian fascists led to the pro Russians being sealed in a building by the fascists, who then set the building on fire. The Ukranian government is flailing, its military is falling apart, so it can’t keep a handle on domestic extremists much less counteract the Russian actions. According to the pundits, somehow, an issue that has been going on since before there was an America (is Ukraine part of Russia?) is Obama’s fault because he won’t “lead”

Wall Street: The DoJ has announced an investigation into the practices of High Frequency Trading. Michael Lewis has a new book out on this topic. The news coverage about HFT as a result of these two things has been met with eye rolling and stating it is old news by Wall Street, and shock by Main street. Which is pretty much why it is a problem. The banks have since started threatening that investigating the banks could crash the economy, so best not do it. Oh, and Bank of America just lost $2.7 bln due to sloppy accounting.


If that looks like a lot of critical stuff that is absolutely within the purview of the government but for some reason is getting no traction, welcome to the thread.


Useful Reads:


America's class system across life cycle - in case you were under the misapprehension things might get better



Media:
Watch Alpha House on Amazon. If you are a regular in this thread it is right up your alley. It has been renewed for a second season.

Mitt on Netflix is a documentary of the Romneys during the campaigns, focusing on the family rather than the politics.

Inequality for all is a documentary, now on netflix instant. Watch it

House of Cards Season 2 came out February 14th, holy poo poo watch it.

Threads is a BBC movie about nuclear war and its aftermath, watch it if your will to live has become too strong.

The Battle of the Somme is on youtube, it was an early attempt at propaganda to get people to join the war effort and had the exact opposite effect.

Do Not Ask What Good We Do by Robert Draper. Good summary of the insanity after the 2010 midterms

Collision 2012 by Dan Balz covers the 2012 election (including some of the GOP primary) and written like it was a thread regular. Highly entertaining.

Fiasco by Thomas Ricks. If you ever start to fade on how bad the naughty aughties were, here is a reminder of just one sliver of the gross malfeasance.

I.O.U.: Why Everyone Owes Everyone and No One Can Pay by John Lancaster. Decent explanation of securities, debt, finance, and why its all a mess. Mainly a decent fast reference for us if you get confused about how economics, finance, and politics move together.

Capital in the Twenty-First Century by Thomas Piketty. New book on wealth and economics making huge waves with people. Probably worth a look.


Reporters:
Ta-Nehis Coates In America politics has been intertwined with race since the beginning, and as much as we may wish to deny it it is still a core part of who we are as a nation. There is no better writer on race in America than Ta-Nehisi Coates. He covers it all, from historical research to modern commentary. Read him if you want great insight to how things are and why.

Robert Costa formerly of the National Review, newly of the Washington Post has amazing insider reports on dirt and action being done in congress. His op-eds are right wing, as to be expected, but his twitter is a play by play of the insider game, and a great source.


Other stuff
IRC is in #poligoon on synirc Find us there during live streams of random poo poo. Go to this link and enter a username to get on the IRC channel: #PoliGoon on irc.synirc.net

Drink of the Month
Casa Noble Reposado Tequila It is a blue agave tequila aged in a white oak barrel for between 3 months and 1 year. This gives it a smooth, slightly sweet taste akin to cognac, rather than the usual hard bite tequila has. Runs $45-$60 a bottle. It's for savoring, not shots or mixing. For the day to day “gently caress it all” stuff, this link will help

Past Drinks:
April: Clynelish 14 Year Old single malt scotch


Thread Title
Credit to poster Captain_Maclaine for it. Because it is true. Now lets see how long it lasts until it gets changed by a mod

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Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
please continue booze suggestions here

Magres
Jul 14, 2011
I love White Russians, personally. Get some decent Vodka (Chopin works and is a favorite of mine), Kahlua, and milk or cream (I like Whole Milk, anything heavier and you're just chugging milkfat, anything lighter and it's really watery) and mix however much you want. I tend to do like 2:1:1 Vodka:Kahlua:Milk but I generally like my drinks idiotically strong, and 1:1:2 V:K:M is probably going to be a lot more palatable for most people.

Random question - the thread blew up by about 20 pages over the course of a couple days while I was on the road. Anything noteworthy (ie stuff I should go read) happen in the past few days while I was living under a rock?

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012
Sha-na-na-night train!

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Fried Chicken posted:

please continue booze suggestions here

Using Baileys Irish Cream creamer in a milkshake is delicious, I can only assume using the real stuff would be just as good.

Magres
Jul 14, 2011

God drat, did anyone else get the ad about Menthol cigarettes for that vid? It was amazingly creepy - girl buys a pack of cigs, the woman at the counter says 'I'm gonna need more than that' and the girl loving rips a hunk of skin off her face and sets it on the counter while the narrator says some stuff about how smoking causes early wrinkles and, as well as destroying the rest of your body, screws up your skin.

E: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oJZm5YBCL0

Looks like a govt ad, so expect to see Rush Limbaugh screaming about ARE RIGHT TO SMOKE :v:

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

Start using the best desktop environment now!
Choose KDE!

The part about McCutcheon v. FEC isn't really accurate. The only personal cap that was struck down was the aggregate contribution limit. Corporation and union contributions aren't so much capped as they are prohibited.

Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."
I assume everyone is drinking Blanton's as their sipping bourbon of choice because it's so drat smooth.



Also supporting whoever suggested Lagavulin 16yr.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
I appreciate this thread's title synergy with auspol.

Drink rec: box wine. It's downmarket, cheap, and also much more environmentally friendly than bottled wine, especially wine corked with actual cork.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Magres posted:

God drat, did anyone else get the ad about Menthol cigarettes for that vid? It was amazingly creepy - girl buys a pack of cigs, the woman at the counter says 'I'm gonna need more than that' and the girl loving rips a hunk of skin off her face and sets it on the counter while the narrator says some stuff about how smoking causes early wrinkles and, as well as destroying the rest of your body, screws up your skin.

E: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oJZm5YBCL0

Looks like a govt ad, so expect to see Rush Limbaugh screaming about ARE RIGHT TO SMOKE :v:

Good go smoke 1-2 packs a day please Rush.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


So wait why are Republicans surging in the polls over the last two weeks? Anything in particular going on or just statistical noise?

Bassetking
Feb 20, 2008

And it is, it is a glorious thing, to be a Basset King!

Magres posted:

I love White Russians, personally. Get some decent Vodka (Chopin works and is a favorite of mine), Kahlua, and milk or cream (I like Whole Milk, anything heavier and you're just chugging milkfat, anything lighter and it's really watery) and mix however much you want. I tend to do like 2:1:1 Vodka:Kahlua:Milk but I generally like my drinks idiotically strong, and 1:1:2 V:K:M is probably going to be a lot more palatable for most people.

Random question - the thread blew up by about 20 pages over the course of a couple days while I was on the road. Anything noteworthy (ie stuff I should go read) happen in the past few days while I was living under a rock?

Try using a Honey Vanilla Vodka in your White Russians. 375ml 100 proof Vodka to 6oz mesquite honey, and a vanilla bean. Put all of those in a mason jar, let it sit for three weeks, and shake it once each day. At the end of that time, strain it through a wire mesh, and then add it to your beverages, or just drink it straight. It's cheaper than buying Stoli Hunni, adds a note of mesquite smoke, and those lovely vanilla undertones, and is potent enough to make arguing with Fishmech seem like a good idea.

EDIT:

Relentlessboredomm posted:

I assume everyone is drinking Blanton's as their sipping bourbon of choice because it's so drat smooth.

Also supporting whoever suggested Lagavulin 16yr.
I'm sipping on Bookers. It helps ease the pain.

Magres
Jul 14, 2011

Bassetking posted:

Try using a Honey Vanilla Vodka in your White Russians. 375ml 100 proof Vodka to 6oz mesquite honey, and a vanilla bean. Put all of those in a mason jar, let it sit for three weeks, and shake it once each day. At the end of that time, strain it through a wire mesh, and then add it to your beverages, or just drink it straight. It's cheaper than buying Stoli Hunni, adds a note of mesquite smoke, and those lovely vanilla undertones, and is potent enough to make arguing with Fishmech seem like a good idea.

Oh my sweet christ that sounds wonderful

Definitely going to put some of that together as soon as I get home, in a month I leave for a summer job in a town I loving hate because it's a podunk shithole with nothing to do, and drinking myself into a stupor with deilicious Honey Vanilla Vodka sounds great.



Oh, other booze suggestion - Rum and Rootbeer, using Kraken Rum for your rum. Stuff's not super expensive and the vanilla flavoring makes it go fantastically well with Rootbeer.

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Magres posted:

Oh, other booze suggestion - Rum and Rootbeer, using Kraken Rum for your rum. Stuff's not super expensive and the vanilla flavoring makes it go fantastically well with Rootbeer.

Find a coconut rum and mix it with Coke for a fantastic mixed drink.

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.
Pillbug

Relentlessboredomm posted:

I assume everyone is drinking Blanton's as their sipping bourbon of choice because it's so drat smooth.

Also supporting whoever suggested Lagavulin 16yr.

Blanton's is fine, but bourbon generally is either too sweet or lacking in character WRT Scotch and Rye.

Lagavulin 16, that's me! Favorite, but don't drink it often because it's roughly twice as pricey as Laphroaig quarter-cask. Better, but not >1.5x $ better. Lagavulin's more of a "grandpa died anniversary" drink than a "gently caress it we live in a completely broken world" drink - there's more sensible stuff to dull some pain for a moment, even if Lagavulin is distilled magic that helps you make the world feel less horrible.

sweart gliwere fucked around with this message at 06:24 on May 7, 2014

Bassetking
Feb 20, 2008

And it is, it is a glorious thing, to be a Basset King!

Magres posted:

Oh my sweet christ that sounds wonderful

Definitely going to put some of that together as soon as I get home, in a month I leave for a summer job in a town I loving hate because it's a podunk shithole with nothing to do, and drinking myself into a stupor with deilicious Honey Vanilla Vodka sounds great.



Oh, other booze suggestion - Rum and Rootbeer, using Kraken Rum for your rum. Stuff's not super expensive and the vanilla flavoring makes it go fantastically well with Rootbeer.

Make sure you slit the vanilla bean lengthwise from end to end before adding it, or it won't infuse properly.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Fried Chicken posted:

please continue booze suggestions here

drink it, don't talk about it

Stunning Honky
Sep 7, 2004

" . . . "

Fried Chicken posted:

please continue booze suggestions here

EDIT: anyone have some good rum suggestions?




Make sure to get the Three Star

Anyone know what Rand Paul and Rupert Murdoch were drinking at the Derby?

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/04/exclusive-cia-falls-back-in-afghanistan.html

quote:

KABUL, Afghanistan—The CIA is dismantling its frontline Afghan counterterrorist forces in south and east Afghanistan, leaving a security vacuum that U.S. commanders fear the Taliban and al Qaeda will fill—and leaving the Pakistan border open to a possible deluge of fighters and weapons.

“The CIA has started to end the contracts of some of those militias who were working for them,” said Aimal Faizi, spokesman for outgoing Afghan President Hamid Karzai, a longtime critic of the CIA’s Afghan operatives. “Some of them were in very important locations, so we deployed our troops there.”

Is the pullout later this year from Afghanistan not on the radar that much anymore? It seems like things are going to get a lot worse as the CIA has decided to stop paying militias to maintain security and fight against the Taliban, especially in the southern and eastern part of the country. I guess no one really gives a crap about Afghanistan anymore since Osama Bin Laden is dead and the Karzai government is not being cooperative with U.S. demands?

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Fried Chicken posted:

Ukraine: The Crimeans voted

Yeah, about that.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...rendum-results/

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

SedanChair posted:

drink it, don't talk about it

In college the best drinking game was always Drink The Beer.

Stunning Honky
Sep 7, 2004

" . . . "

Swan Oat posted:

Drink rec: box wine. It's downmarket, cheap, and also much more environmentally friendly than bottled wine, especially wine corked with actual cork.

I wish I had come up with "cardboardeaux," but have it anyway

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012
Here's a pretty good rum that's sure to rile up the base:

But if you want a sugar cane based liquor that hates you as much as you hate US politics I recommend cachaça, the moonshine of rum.

Bassetking
Feb 20, 2008

And it is, it is a glorious thing, to be a Basset King!

Babylon Astronaut posted:

But if you want a sugar cane based liquor that hates you as much as you hate US politics I recommend cachaça, the moonshine of rum.

Cachaça is the primary liquor in a Caipirinha, and there is nothing hateful about that delightful cocktail.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

Babylon Astronaut posted:

But if you want a sugar cane based liquor that hates you as much as you hate US politics I recommend cachaça, the moonshine of rum.

I'll fight you for insulting cachaça, it's such a happy drink.

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006
I missed the last 10-11 pages of the previous thread. Is there anything in there worth reading for, or was it closed for a good reason?


Edit: question's so nice, we asked it twice! Small apologies to Magres' post upthread, but it wasn't answered anyway.

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012
Look at the calendar! It was pretty bad to be honest. Some good snack chat.

Bassetking posted:

Cachaça is the primary liquor in a Caipirinha, and there is nothing hateful about that delightful cocktail.
Caiprinhas are delicious and pleasant, but cachaça straight is a powerful adversary.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Grundulum posted:

I missed the last 10-11 pages of the previous thread. Is there anything in there worth reading for, or was it closed for a good reason?

Some college republican came in and derailed with his college republican thoughts. Fishmech argued about nuclear reactors. We began alcohol chat. Some poo poo about state primaries.

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006

comes along bort posted:

Some college republican came in and derailed with his college republican thoughts. Fishmech argued about nuclear reactors. We began alcohol chat. Some poo poo about state primaries.

Wow, this thread really wanders on slow news days. Thanks.

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe
Any reason Veep isn't in the recommended list?

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



Fried Chicken posted:

please continue booze suggestions here

Hopped Vodka (~$45) is delicious as is Beer Barrel Bourbon (~$40). Actually, if you can find Dragon's Milk, the beer that bourbon is based off of, you should try it because it's amazing.

If you are (quite rightly) boycotting Russian products, Tito's Vodka (~$20) is good enough to sip straight, as is Prairie (~$20) and River Baron (~$40), if you can get them wherever you are. Actually, I can endorse MRDC in general - they make good drunkenness.

Referent horseradish infused vodka makes amazing bloodies, if A) you can find it and B) you're into that sort of thing. Have a cold? It also clears your sinuses while clearing your throat!

I also enjoy 2 Gingers (~$20) Irish whiskey. It's becoming widely available lately and isn't bad.

All prices are based on memory and not guaranteed to be accurate. Also, I mostly have a taste for beer, so my taste in liquor might be lacking.

Edit: I've been making tea infused vodka for the past year and a half or so and recommend it to everyone because it's really easy and can be good if you get the right teas. Just buy a dozen pack of mason jars for $10 and go nuts experimenting. I find that sweeter, sipable vodka (see above) with Earl Grey, chai, chocolate, or mint tea are my favorites.

Munkeymon fucked around with this message at 07:46 on May 7, 2014

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

I found some good mezcal at a liquor outlet! It's smoky as all heck, would make a good mexican martini, but I have a small 5oz glass that I just sip out of.

agarjogger
May 16, 2011
Highball glass. Whiskey. Get one of Mitt Romney's horses to piss in it. Shut the gently caress up and enjoy your urine and whiskey. Freedom.
There's your US politics drink.

StealthArcher
Jan 10, 2010




Vodka drinker here, what's the goto communist poo poo for reading about shits all hosed up and bullshit.

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Benagain posted:

Any reason Veep isn't in the recommended list?

Only bourgeoisie scum can afford HBO (seriously though, Veep is fantastic)

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Today is the 22nd anniversary of the ratification of the 27th amendment, an awesome example of how hosed our system is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27th_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Also boilermakers are the most blue-collar drink in existence.

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Munkeymon posted:

Hopped Vodka (~$45) is delicious as is Beer Barrel Bourbon (~$40). Actually, if you can find Dragon's Milk, the beer that bourbon is based off of, you should try it because it's amazing.


When it comes to Vodka, I'm partial to potato vodkas instead of grain. The very best, smoothest I've found is also dirt cheap. Monopolowa, has its origin in Poland but is currently made in Austria, costs only about $15 for a liter bottle. A liter bottle fits neatly into the freezer and is ready for any occasion. You can spend more but why, when you can buy something that's this good for less. Plus, the bottle has that proletariat look that says gently caress you Chopin, and Grey Goose too.



For Rum, I've tried just about all of the high end, and low end also, but nothing beats Myer's Rum. Unfortunately, it's pricey also. I like Mount Gay too but, after Myer's, everything else tastes watered down. I've never had the Ron del Barilito so I'll need to give that a try. A drink that will get you in trouble because it tastes just like soda pop is Dark Rum and ginger beer, a good real live ginger beer, not that ginger ale crap. Cock & Bull is a good ginger beer.

radical meme fucked around with this message at 08:50 on May 7, 2014

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


radical meme posted:

When it comes to Vodka, I'm partial to potato vodkas instead of grain. The very best, smoothest I've found is also dirt cheap. Monopolowa, has its origin in Poland but is currently made in Austria, costs only about $15 for a liter bottle. A liter bottle fits neatly into the freezer and is ready for any occasion. You can spend more but why, when you can buy something that's this good for less. Plus, the bottle has that proletariat look that says gently caress you Chopin, and Grey Goose too.



For Rum, I've tried just about all of the high end, and low end also, but nothing beats Myer's Rum. Unfortunately, it's pricey also. I like Mount Gay too but, after Myer's, everything else tastes watered down. I've never had the Ron de Barillito so I'll need to give that a try. A drink that will get you in trouble because it tastes just like soda pop is Dark Rum and ginger beer, a good real live ginger beer, not that ginger ale crap. Cock & Bull is a good ginger beer.



And if you've got ginger beer and vodka, may as well mix up a Moscow Mule or two+. Just add limes and traditionally, a copper mug.

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Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

Bassetking posted:

I'm sipping on Bookers. It helps ease the pain.

Excellent choice. That honey vanilla vodka thing sounds superb as well.

sweart gliwere posted:

Blanton's is fine, but bourbon generally is either too sweet or lacking in character WRT Scotch and Rye.

Lagavulin 16, that's me! Favorite, but don't drink it often because it's roughly twice as pricey as Laphroaig quarter-cask. Better, but not >1.5x $ better. Lagavulin's more of a "grandpa died anniversary" drink than a "gently caress it we live in a completely broken world" drink - there's more sensible stuff to dull some pain for a moment, even if Lagavulin is distilled magic that helps you make the world feel less horrible.

I love Bourbon but it fulfills different needs from Scotch mostly by not being Scotch. Sometimes I want something with a little less character. Plus Bourbon is easier to abuse when life is terrible.


Haha, agreed. This is why I request it for every gift giving occasion. I think I'm getting a bottle for my birthday here soon. Mmm.

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