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everythingWasBees posted:That's disappointing, Hibiki sounded cool. Hibiki is awesome, the only reason why it doesn't get recommended more is because the plot falls off a cliff after episode 30. Still manages to be one of my favorite Rider series in spite of that but it's going to turn off most people.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Except for All of Cancer's screen time which was the best poo poo in that show. He's the best villain in that show by a mile. Cancer was balanced out by the overabundance of Ryusei and goddamn Meteor Storm which managed to make Meteor even less fun to watch.
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So further Kikaider news. The last 8 or so episodes of Kikaider are FANTASTIC. The monsters get way better, Hakaider is amazing, half of the dumb subplots are exploded into nothing, Hakaider is amazing, we get some really awesome storylines about Kikaider being wanted for murder. It's such a good goddamn show. To put it another way, so some construction workers happen to find a random DARK project. Red Mine Toad shows up and kills most of 'em. The last one swears revenge and attacks him, while INSIDE OF A BULLDOZER. Then explodes. There's something good and pure about a bulldozer fighting a toad robot. And I know exactly how much of a boost Hakaider gave this show, considering the VERY first thing we see in 01 is HAKAIDERS EVERYWHERE! We have a Legion of Doom, Hakaider edition going on! The only sad thing is that none of these guys are like the original Hakaider, but that makes sense considering three of them were freshly built and one of them, the body of the original, no longer has the brain of the doctor-so of course his personality is schizo. To sum it up, Kikaider is a fantastic show...if you skip from about episode 6 or 7 to episode 36 or so.
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What's a good Kamen Rider to get started with? I was thinking about Black because it is considered so important and because of the nostalgia feeling (I watched Black RX as a child). But I'm also watching Dairanger and I'm not sure I can handle that much retro tokusatsu. I'm into martial arts and well-executed plots that don't have to be groundbreaking. Apparently the internet agrees that Blade is awesome, but only after you slog through half the episodes or something, and I only have it available at 360p, which sucks.
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May 12, 2014 20:49
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Cyphoderus posted:What's a good Kamen Rider to get started with? I was thinking about Black because it is considered so important and because of the nostalgia feeling (I watched Black RX as a child). But I'm also watching Dairanger and I'm not sure I can handle that much retro tokusatsu. I'm into martial arts and well-executed plots that don't have to be groundbreaking. Apparently the internet agrees that Blade is awesome, but only after you slog through half the episodes or something, and I only have it available at 360p, which sucks. Black is great. If you're up for a newer show I'd recommend W or OOO. Or you could do what all the cool new watchers are doing and jump straight into the newest show, Gaim, which has been beyond fantastic.
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Cyphoderus posted:What's a good Kamen Rider to get started with? I was thinking about Black because it is considered so important and because of the nostalgia feeling (I watched Black RX as a child). But I'm also watching Dairanger and I'm not sure I can handle that much retro tokusatsu. I'm into martial arts and well-executed plots that don't have to be groundbreaking. Apparently the internet agrees that Blade is awesome, but only after you slog through half the episodes or something, and I only have it available at 360p, which sucks. W if you wanted something modern, Black is a good choice for older stuff.
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If you want a the more grounded, 'gritty' for lack of a better term, Rider, go with Kuuga. It's the start of the Heisei Era and has a plot that doesn't poo poo itself by the end.
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May 12, 2014 21:00
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jonjonaug posted:Black is great. If you're up for a newer show I'd recommend W or OOO. Gaim isn't that good. Why do you like it
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Twistys Rapture posted:Gaim isn't that good. Why do you like it Because it is incredibly good. Serious answer: Fun, well developed characters with good acting backing them up, good direction, excellent music that sticks in my head (only other Rider so far that I've watched that I'd rate on the same level is a bit of W's soundtrack), compelling plot, it's very well paced, and no awful two part structure. It's vying with Black right now for favorite Rider. jonjonaug fucked around with this message at 23:44 on May 12, 2014 |
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^^^^ there you go.jonjonaug posted:Because it is incredibly good. C'mon! At least you could talk about the writing, how it broke out of the two episode arcs or characters you like. Gaim isn't one of my favorite Riders, but at least I can say more than just "good."
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Twistys Rapture posted:Gaim isn't that good. Why do you like it I'll never be sure if you're a troll or just have badwrong opinions.
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May 12, 2014 23:47
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The suits are kinda crap.
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Serperoth posted:I'll never be sure if you're a troll or just have badwrong opinions. Just because you don't agree doesn't make his opinions bad or wrong.
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everythingWasBees posted:The suits are kinda crap. Some of the early ones are (particularly the really floppy ones like Pineapple Arms) but I really like the Energy Rider suits and Kachidoki. EDIT: I'd say the only aspects of Gaim I think have been done better in other post-Decade Riders I've seen are the Rider abilities (better in OOO once you get past the first dozen episodes of nonsensical form changes to introduce forms) and monster designs (better in W). Although since the Invess are basically animals the less diverse monster designs make sense and I think the big CG monsters have generally been done better in Gaim than in other shows, so I don't really hold this against Gaim. Having the form changes just be weapons instead of whatever superpowers get pulled out of a bag is a bit less fun though. jonjonaug fucked around with this message at 00:07 on May 13, 2014 |
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May 13, 2014 00:03
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Wizard really got chugging imo compared to where Gaim is now
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jonjonaug posted:Some of the early ones are (particularly the really floppy ones like Pineapple Arms) but I really like the Energy Rider suits and Kachidoki. Kachidoki's the first one I'm enjoying, but honestly it seems kinda overworked. Then again I don't really like the whole samurai motif to start with, and I really enjoyed the insect suits.
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Looked like a Blade four main riders with a hell brothers added on, Hase died, Jounouchi is nowhere, I'm glad that Takatora and Mitchy switched tho
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May 13, 2014 00:06
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Potsticker posted:Just because you don't agree doesn't make his opinions bad or wrong. I disagree. Twistys Rapture posted:Wizard really got chugging imo compared to where Gaim is now
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May 13, 2014 00:07
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Twistys Rapture posted:Wizard really got chugging imo compared to where Gaim is now At around this episode count, Wizard was only putting the first of its three plot coupons into play by making Mayu a wizard (episode 26/27). At this actual episode count, Wizard was spending two entire episodes on Beast Hyper.
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May 13, 2014 00:11
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Motto posted:I disagree. Counterpoint: Wizard had Rinko and Nitou, an awesome belt, and some good looking monster suits.
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May 13, 2014 00:14
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Not even my other friend who tries to constantly get me to watch Decade with him will defend Wizard.
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I guess if you use Wizard as the standard for a good show Gaim is kind of terrible. I can't imagine how someone could get that attached to wizard of all things, though.
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Potsticker posted:Counterpoint: Wizard had Rinko and Nitou, an awesome belt, and some good looking monster suits. It also has a Chimera rider. That alone makes it awesome.
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May 13, 2014 00:23
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Not even my other friend who tries to constantly get me to watch Decade with him will defend Wizard. Watch Decade. Tsukasa, Natsumi and Kaitou are an amazing core cast. Oh, and I guess Kuuga is there, too.
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Potsticker posted:Oh, and I guess Kuuga is there, too. I will never accept Onodera into my heart.
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T.G. Xarbala posted:I will never accept Onodera into my heart. I honestly straight up forget that there was a sidekick character in Decade most of the time.
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Twistys Rapture posted:Wizard really got chugging imo compared to where Gaim is now Gaim has always been chugging though in comparison.
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Potsticker posted:Counterpoint: Wizard had Rinko and Nitou, an awesome belt, and some good looking monster suits. Nitou's mayonnaise stuff was disgusting, I had to look away from the screen whenever he ate it, and though the belt looked cool it just would not shut the gently caress up, disrupting the action scenes.
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The Wizard x Gaim movie was really good for the Wizard part and the Gaim part just kind of flopped around there
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Potsticker posted:I honestly straight up forget that there was a sidekick character in Decade most of the time. Especially since Yusuke seemed to forget he was a Kamen Rider half the time. Didn't he only transform like maybe 4 or 5 times total in the whole series?
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Potsticker posted:Counterpoint: Wizard had Rinko and Nitou, an awesome belt, and some good looking monster suits. Counter-counterpoint: Rinko was an awesome concept, did absolutely nothing in the series and was as useless as the rest of the half-assed Rider Club Haruto had. Nitou, for how cool he might be or not, had to be forced into episodes so we'd remember his existance, as the series seemed completely against letting him have any sort of importance to the plot until the very last second. The belt, while definitely awesome, could get irritating. I'll give you the monster suits.
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jonjonaug posted:Black is great. If you're up for a newer show I'd recommend W or OOO. Thanks for the suggestions, everyone. I think I'll try Black for now, and jump into the weirder stuff later (seriously, fruit-themed?).
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Blaze Dragon posted:Counter-counterpoint: Rinko was an awesome concept, did absolutely nothing in the series and was as useless as the rest of the half-assed Rider Club Haruto had. Nitou, for how cool he might be or not, had to be forced into episodes so we'd remember his existance, as the series seemed completely against letting him have any sort of importance to the plot until the very last second. The belt, while definitely awesome, could get irritating. I'll give you the monster suits. Yeah, if that was the point where Mayu was becoming a Rider, then Rinko totally was on the bench at that point. Such a sad waste of character. Pretty much you could say that about most of the cast by the end, though. Wizard had some stinker arcs, but for the most part watching week to week wasn't bad when we didn't know how it all would turn out. It's probably the last heisei show I'd recommend someone watch, though.
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Twistys Rapture posted:The Wizard x Gaim movie was really good for the Wizard part and the Gaim part just kind of flopped around there We did finally find out where he got that Dandelion lock though 
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Blaze Dragon posted:Counter-counterpoint: Rinko was an awesome concept, did absolutely nothing in the series and was as useless as the rest of the half-assed Rider Club Haruto had. Nitou, for how cool he might be or not, had to be forced into episodes so we'd remember his existance, as the series seemed completely against letting him have any sort of importance to the plot until the very last second. The belt, while definitely awesome, could get irritating. I'll give you the monster suits. Corollary: Mother loving Shunpei.
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Cricken_Nigfops posted:Corollary: Mother loving Shunpei. Shunpei was pretty much the worst. And he couldn't be the worst by himself, he drug Rinko down to his level far too often.
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Xelkelvos posted:We did finally find out where he got that Dandelion lock though Didn't he get that in the same scene he got Kachidoki in the show?
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TurninTrix posted:Didn't he get that in the same scene he got Kachidoki in the show? Correct.
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Shunpei was god awful. I feel that if Rinko was a rider, the series would've been about ten times better. That and I would've liked to have seen more screen time given to the other Mages.
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jonjonaug posted:Because it is incredibly good. Gaim, jonjon, not Go-Busters.
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