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ToastyPotato posted:Fox has a strangle hold on that Deadpool as he is tied up with the X-men stuff. The only way it reverts is if Disney has something to offer, like a fuckton of money. Or, fox's contract runs up. Disney owns Marvel, so they can do as they please once their contractual obligations are over.
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Disney is like a country unto itself, with a seemingly limitless GDP. They should purchase the rights to whatever they can, and then suckerpunch the people they buy them from.
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May 12, 2014 23:20
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jhorphear posted:Or, fox's contract runs up. Disney owns Marvel, so they can do as they please once their contractual obligations are over. I thought people have gone over this a bunch already. Unless Days of Future Past (or whatever X-Men movie is going to come after that) loses John Carter style money Marvel is never going to see those rights again. Second sentence of your post doesn't even make sense in the context of the post you were responding to.
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May 12, 2014 23:21
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Gonz posted:They should purchase the rights to whatever they can, and then suckerpunch the people they buy them from. They already do this.
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May 12, 2014 23:21
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bobkatt013 posted:They already do this. Yes, but they have yet to do so with regards to certain film rights to use in the Marvel universe. I say go for it. Motherfuckers already bought Star Wars; nothing should stop them in their quest to obtain as many Marvel characters as they can.
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May 12, 2014 23:40
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Gonz posted:Yes, but they have yet to do so with regards to certain film rights to use in the Marvel universe. I say go for it. Motherfuckers already bought Star Wars; nothing should stop them in their quest to obtain as many Marvel characters as they can. It is really not that easy, as has been stated multiple times not only in this thread but in other places. There are contracts, complicated binding expensive contracts. Disney has no desire to try to buy these out, they're doing just fine with what they have. If the rights revert that is great, but until then it's not worth the money to even consider breaking contracts with the other studios when they are making tons of money with the ones they do have the rights to. This is the same reason that Gotham is on Fox while Arrow is doing so well on CW and Flash is going to be there this fall. Disney is happy, they're not going to try to break contracts, they don't need to. All of those other studios are helping sell comics, which makes Disney money, and the other studios take all the risks. Disney has done amazing things with the properties they do have access to and are making bucket loads of money. Fox will never give up the X-Men and Sony will never give up Spiderman as long as they are making money. Yes it's weird to have Avengers without Spiderman but the average movie goer doesn't know or care, and that is where the real money in these movies are.
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May 12, 2014 23:55
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Bunnita posted:Yes it's weird to have Avengers without Spiderman but the average movie goer doesn't know or care, and that is where the real money in these movies are. It's really not, it'd be weirder if he actually was there as an Avenger. I don't miss the X-Men either; as has been said, X-Men/mutants works really well as a separate universe, too, and that's historically how it has been in the comics, too, until very recently. The only ones I actually wish were with Marvel with Fantastic Four and Doom and Namor and that whole group. That's some pretty key Marvel stuff, and at this point I have no faith in anyone but Marvel to pull off that movie. But even then I can get over it, because Spider-man and F4 are woven together pretty tight and at least we get to see those guys sharing a world. There's enough dozens of other Marvel properties that I'll survive even if the MCU is missing Reed vs Doom, Green Goblin or Gwen Stacy.
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May 13, 2014 00:37
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XboxPants posted:It's really not, it'd be weirder if he actually was there as an Avenger. I don't miss the X-Men either; as has been said, X-Men/mutants works really well as a separate universe, too, and that's historically how it has been in the comics, too, until very recently. FF is Fox, not Sony, so we won't be seing them sharing anything, unfortunately. Sony has nothing but Spider-Man which is why they've gone insane and have announced like 4 different SM based movies (Sinister Six, ASM 3 & 4, and Venom.) If Days of Future Past is a big hit, you can bet your rear end Fantastic Four will be bridged into the X-Men universe, especially given that Franklin Richards is a mutant himself.
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May 13, 2014 00:45
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I think that it probably forces them to write better stories with what they have. As amazing as Justice League Unlimited was, there's the constant "reason of the week that Superman can't just set this straight."
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May 13, 2014 00:58
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Sorry, we don't need two stretchy guys.
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May 13, 2014 01:09
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As one of the bigger advocates of the "Skye is an Inhuman" theory, I will readily admit that it's total speculation that just happens to fit our limited information pretty well. Of course, she doesn't have to come from Attilan; maybe Skye came from K'un Lun (hey, there's gonna be an Iron Fist show, why not) or the monastery of the Ancient One (Skye = Clea??? [!!]). Lotta mysterious hidden cities in Marvel Asia.
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May 13, 2014 01:41
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GigaPeon posted:Since they're not changing the name of the show, I'd expect SHIELD to be back by the time the next Earth-based MCU movie comes out. They'll probably say something like 'Public opinion of SHIELD has dropped since the HYDRA incident, but we have a job to do!' World goes to poo poo, Ultron takes over a large part of NYC. WE NEED SHIELD AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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May 13, 2014 01:47
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Spoiler: Everyone on the team, not just Skye, gets powers in a ham-fisted, passive-aggressive attempt to respond to criticism of S1. The tagline for S2: "Okay, gently caress It, Apparently All Heroes Are Super After All."
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May 13, 2014 05:35
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Actually it's going to turn out that Skye's a perfectly normal person. Coulson however winds up getting superpowers. He also reveals that he has a suit ready just in case this sort of thing happen. He also admits that he sometimes wears this under his clothes because he's just that much of a nerd.
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May 13, 2014 05:51
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Coulson is Blackbolt.
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May 13, 2014 07:13
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Ward is Sentry. His redemption is that The Void is in control at the moment.
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May 13, 2014 07:19
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Skye is Squirrel Girl.
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May 13, 2014 14:32
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Masonity posted:Ward is Sentry. His redemption is that The Void is in control at the moment. It honestly surprises me they haven't touched on the Sentry yet.
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May 13, 2014 14:37
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Bruceski posted:Skye is Squirrel Girl. She's not cool enough to be Squirrel Girl. (Besides Doreen is a mutant)
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May 13, 2014 14:38
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I would like to see Simmons as Squirrel Girl. Or rather, I just want to see Simmons clowning on major Marvel villains.
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May 13, 2014 16:53
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Colson is secretly captain marvel.
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May 13, 2014 17:03
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jhorphear posted:Colson is secretly captain marvel. The marvel is his penis.
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May 13, 2014 17:05
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The_Doctor posted:It honestly surprises me they haven't touched on the Sentry yet. They are probably still trying to work out a way to stop him as the end of Siege made no sense at all. Once the infinity gauntlet is introduced he might have a place.
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May 13, 2014 18:27
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The_Doctor posted:It honestly surprises me they haven't touched on the Sentry yet. Thor already covers the quasi-Superman analog pretty well.
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May 13, 2014 18:33
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Agents of SHIELD will move an hour later next season, to 9PM Tuesdays. Agent Carter officially confirmed as a midseason show in the same time slot, filling an extended SHIELD hiatus.
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May 13, 2014 18:37
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The_Doctor posted:It honestly surprises me they haven't touched on the Sentry yet. I don't see why. The Sentry only works (to the degree he does at all) as the "forgotten hero" who was critical in the early days then sacrificed himself so hard that all memory of him was erased. Except that for the MCU, these are the early days. You need to get much farther into the timeline, then do a flashback to The Avengers and show him fighting the Chitauri and giving Loki a noogie. Having him actually appear (or even get mentioned) early quashes the sense of wrongness about him when he re-appears out of exile.
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May 13, 2014 18:48
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Barry Convex posted:Agents of SHIELD will move an hour later next season, to 9PM Tuesdays. Agent Carter officially confirmed as a midseason show in the same time slot, filling an extended SHIELD hiatus. Oooh, does this mean AoS might have some more freedom with what it's allowed to show?
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May 13, 2014 18:50
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BreakAtmo posted:Oooh, does this mean AoS might have some more freedom with what it's allowed to show? I dunno, it's not like they were particularly restrained for a seven o'clock show. Remember the evil redheaded doctor burning to death? Or Ward's bullet-to-the-brain murder sprees of late? They're already surprisingly gruesome for a nominally kid-friendly superhero-adjunct show. And no timeslot change is going to get you more in the way of sex and nudity.
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May 13, 2014 19:00
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There is no discernible difference between the 8pm and 9pm time slots as far as network TV goes. At best, sometimes, rarely, they would push boundaries within the 10pm time slot, in the form of showing a butt crack, or something like that. Or maybe they have someone say a very mild swear word once.
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May 13, 2014 19:07
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ToastyPotato posted:There is no discernible difference between the 8pm and 9pm time slots as far as network TV goes. At best, sometimes, rarely, they would push boundaries within the 10pm time slot, in the form of showing a butt crack, or something like that. Or maybe they have someone say a very mild swear word once. Or in the case of NBC the entirety of Hannibal.
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May 13, 2014 19:10
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Well drat I guess those spoilers I read about Coulson becoming full blue CGI dong Marvel-verse Dr. Manhattan were false.
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May 13, 2014 19:11
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Bunnita posted:It is really not that easy, as has been stated multiple times not only in this thread but in other places. There are contracts, complicated binding expensive contracts. Disney has no desire to try to buy these out, they're doing just fine with what they have. The problem is that Fox and Sony and Universal are just as aware of it, and are in no mood to hand a couple billion dollars to Disney out of the goodness of their hearts, so they're not going to sell the rights back or let them lapse until and unless they become unprofitable.
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May 13, 2014 19:37
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Yep. Which also clarifies my "fuckton of money" statement. We are talking billions. Billions and billions of dollars. Disney spent 4 billion buying Star Wars off of ONE MAN, what do you think it will cost them to buy Spider-Man from a gigantic corporation like Sony? It's even worse with Fox because they have so many damned characters that they could easily build their own shared universe if they were halfway competent. These companies would set the price too high for Disney to be able to pay. In all honesty, Sony is the most realistic chance Disney has at getting one of their franchises back. If these Spider-Man sequels and spin offs fail, and there is a massive chance that they will given the quality of the last 2 ASM movies, Sony might just be forced to tap out and cash in their chips with Disney. The current X-Men films seem more like a soft rebooting and relaunching of the franchise than anything else. If they failed miserably, and Fantastic Four with it, I could see Fox sitting on the rights for several years before trying one more reboot. By that point, I imagine that the MCU would probably have fizzled out anyway.
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May 13, 2014 19:46
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Esroc posted:Thor already covers the quasi-Superman analog pretty well. When I went to see Thor: The Dark World with my dad, he came out saying it was the best Superman film since Superman II. 
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May 13, 2014 19:47
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Is there anything hidden we should take away from the time slot changing? Is that a good or a bad thing?
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May 13, 2014 19:49
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jng2058 posted:And no timeslot change is going to get you more in the way of sex and nudity. They already had Skye running around in her undies or wet in a few episodes.
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May 13, 2014 19:50
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Hand of the King posted:Is there anything hidden we should take away from the time slot changing? Is that a good or a bad thing? The recent week where they moved it to 9pm (with the rerun of the post Captain America ep before it) it had a bump in the ratings. They might feel that the 8pm slot is too contested, or will be.
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May 13, 2014 19:51
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CapnAndy posted:Disney has tons of desire to buy the contracts out and get their rights back, because they are not morons -- they're well aware that no matter what it would cost them, they'd make infinitely more back eventually by being able to put Spider-Man in the Avengers and putting out Avengers 4: Avengers vs. X-Men and so on and so forth. This really isn't a foregone conclusion, though. Marvel Studios can only make so many movies per year, and it's kinda hard to get that much bigger than a movie that made $1.5 billion worldwide.
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May 13, 2014 19:53
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Honestly, there's no way Marvel/Disney will ever get the movie rights to their characters back unless the contracts actually run out at some point in the future (I'm not sure if this is the case, never seen them). The mere fact that the Marvel studios stuff has raked in money hand over fist means that Fox and Sony will hold onto their licenses solely to spite Disney and keep them from making even more, let alone the vague potential chance that they could capture some of that success themselves. Hollywood rights politics are petty and childish, and barring some weird backroom deal there's no chance Marvel will ever get the rights again. There's a reason they've been working very hard to build up their other properties instead.
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Barry Convex posted:This really isn't a foregone conclusion, though. Marvel Studios can only make so many movies per year, and it's kinda hard to get that much bigger than a movie that made $1.5 billion worldwide. Asimo posted:Honestly, there's no way Marvel/Disney will ever get the movie rights to their characters back unless the contracts actually run out at some point in the future (I'm not sure if this is the case, never seen them).
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