|
I'm assuming this is for a spring/summer league. If it's anything like every summer league I've played in for the 20 or so years I've played ice hockey, from youth to adult leagues, it's that you're lucky in the vacation months to have double digit players on the bench, let alone line combinations. It's not worth the headache. Then again I don't know the hockey situation you're in (mine is playing in PA/NJ) but that's just how it's always been for me.
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 05:50
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 17, 2024 09:02 |
|
|
Out of curiosity, what would be the best way to handle two or three dissenting players (with one really vocal one) who are new to a team in a league where the teams are assigned? It feels like I'm in a no-win situation, because I'm not captain by virtue of bringing the team together, or by virtue of knowing a lot of them. I'm the captain by virtue of being the only one willing to put up with the poo poo of talking to the league and carry the water bottles and poo poo. I've never even heard of people being pissed with fixing positions to begin with, to even have to have this argument where ice time is apparently a huge issue, more so than actual team play. e: shyduck posted:I'm assuming this is for a spring/summer league. If it's anything like every summer league I've played in for the 20 or so years I've played ice hockey, from youth to adult leagues, it's that you're lucky in the vacation months to have double digit players on the bench, let alone line combinations. It's not worth the headache. It's a little more established than that, it's not quite a summer league. We generally have 4D and anywhere from 7-10 forwards per game. We definitely have enough people that even if we don't fix it ahead of time, we can get there and look at who is there and decide where everyone should play.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 05:53
|
|
|
shyduck posted:you're lucky in the vacation months to have double digit players on the bench, let alone line combinations Playing in Western PA, it's the same here. One of the teams I play on (for which I am also captain-by-default) has 16 skaters on the roster, and have had turnouts of 9 and 7 skaters for the first two games of the season.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 05:55
|
|
|
Look Around You posted:Out of curiosity, what would be the best way to handle two or three dissenting players (with one really vocal one) who are new to a team in a league where the teams are assigned? It feels like I'm in a no-win situation, because I'm not captain by virtue of bringing the team together, or by virtue of knowing a lot of them. I'm the captain by virtue of being the only one willing to put up with the poo poo of talking to the league and carry the water bottles and poo poo. I've never even heard of people being pissed with fixing positions to begin with, to even have to have this argument where ice time is apparently a huge issue, more so than actual team play. a "captain" on a beer league team just handles the money and passes on messages from the league. If you didn't even put the team together I'd probably suggest against sending out that e-mail. Nobody likes losing every game, I'm sure somebody would agree with you if you just brought it up again while getting ready to play
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 05:58
|
|
|
lol why would anyone just want to roll one in one out in an organized game anyway?
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 06:02
|
|
|
Topoisomerase posted:lol why would anyone just want to roll one in one out in an organized game anyway? Because they're loving idiots who think that it means they'll get more equal ice time for them to lumber around the ice not being able to skate. I mentioned it before, but it's literally the worst player on the team and his friends the 2nd and 3rd worst players on the team bitching because if there is 3 pairs of wings and 2 centers that means there's less playing time for the wingers and that means that is bad, so we'll just go one in-one out because who the gently caress knows. I don't even care that they're not good, other than the fact that they're not good, and bitching about poo poo that literally every other organized team I've ever played on does for no good reason other than they may get like one less minute on the ice.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 06:09
|
|
|
I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be worth my energy to fight them. Maybe a vote? But everyone on my teams now is chill so it never comes up so idk But yeah that email wouldn't work for me. I would reply "just tell me what you think I should do" as that's the best way to humor you without wasting time.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 06:19
|
|
|
Look Around You posted:Out of curiosity, what would be the best way to handle two or three dissenting players (with one really vocal one) who are new to a team in a league where the teams are assigned? xzzy 'em Topoisomerase posted:lol why would anyone just want to roll one in one out in an organized game anyway? This is a sure-fire way to play 4 forwards. Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 07:00 on May 14, 2014 |
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 06:56
|
|
|
Look Around You posted:...because if there is 3 pairs of wings and 2 centers... Just pick up another guy to play center...
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 15:13
|
|
|
In my experience a lot of people don't want to play center because it's more skating and you have to take faceoffs. It's weird, but really it's their own stupid fault if they'll only play wing and you end up with an odd number of wing/center combos.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 15:16
|
|
|
Center rules, I have more fun there than anywhere else. You basically get to support every role so it's like playing all positions at once!
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 15:51
|
|
|
bgreman posted:Playing in Western PA, it's the same here. One of the teams I play on (for which I am also captain-by-default) has 16 skaters on the roster, and have had turnouts of 9 and 7 skaters for the first two games of the season. Not to worry. I heard Western PA just got 23 more guys available for summer league.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 17:11
|
|
|
Look Around You posted:Because they're loving idiots who think that it means they'll get more equal ice time for them to lumber around the ice not being able to skate. I mentioned it before, but it's literally the worst player on the team and his friends the 2nd and 3rd worst players on the team bitching because if there is 3 pairs of wings and 2 centers that means there's less playing time for the wingers and that means that is bad, so we'll just go one in-one out because who the gently caress knows. I don't even care that they're not good, other than the fact that they're not good, and bitching about poo poo that literally every other organized team I've ever played on does for no good reason other than they may get like one less minute on the ice. Honestly, I'd just assign lines in the locker room (come in with a sheet of paper or something if you want). If Mr. Eventime throws a poo poo fit then tell him to find someone to trade with because this isn't drop-in. I just don't know anyone who's been playing for more than like three years that would bitch about ice time. Unless there's a guy or two on the team who really are seeing a lot more ice time than the rest, this kind of thing usually evens out. If there's a serious incongruity, most guys either wind up quitting the team, or taking hero shifts like…pretty much everyone else in beer league.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 17:17
|
|
|
Dangerllama posted:Honestly, I'd just assign lines in the locker room (come in with a sheet of paper or something if you want). If Mr. Eventime throws a poo poo fit then tell him to find someone to trade with because this isn't drop-in. This is the issue. I'm pretty sure this is literally his first year playing. There wasn't any huge disparity in ice time between people when we were rolling in lines/positions either.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 17:24
|
|
|
Set lines is such a fundamental part of hockey I think three years is too long. That's poo poo a functioning adult should be able to process in the locker room before their first game. If they want a rolling bench that bad they can go play rat hockey.Henrik Zetterberg posted:xzzy 'em  I'm totally not the first guy who ever got kicked off a team, go find that guy's name and use that one.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 17:33
|
|
|
My LTP class was rolling lines during the scrimmage. Once we entered the Bronze league, we had assigned lines like every beer league team in history. You can't build chemistry if you're constantly playing with different lines every game/shift. That guy is a dickhole. I've played with the same center for 3 years now even across multiple teams, minus his inevitable seasonly suspension for punching someone.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 17:35
|
|
|
In the two leagues I've done I've been on basically different lines nearly every game. That said, we try to set the lines at the start of the game and keep them as much as possible. Hell, it's the first thing the coed leauge team actually discusses during warm-ups.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 17:39
|
|
|
After our game last night we had an intense argument about ice time. As in, gently caress YOU I AM IN WORSE SHAPE THAN YOU ARE I NEED A REST SO YOU GET OUT THERE versus NO I AM IN WORSE SHAPE AND I DONT EVEN BACKCHECK SO YOU GET OUT THERE it was funny
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 17:39
|
|
|
xzzy posted:I'm totally not the first guy who ever got kicked off a team, go find that guy's name and use that one. But yours is so much more fun to say.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 17:39
|
|
|
Pfft that poo poo is unpronounceable, I can't count the number of times I've jumped into an online game and had the "how do you say your name" conversation.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 17:42
|
|
|
What's so unpronounceable about Ekszy?
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 17:52
|
|
|
If your buddy says "hey let's sign up for ball hockey" and you go "haha ball hockey yeah sure" and you're one of those guys who always takes a puck off the top of the skate on the ice, you should probably not go "haha ball hockey who needs pads".  In other news, there is not a single division of hockey in Saskatoon, ice or ball, that does not have like, ex-Junior B players giving 110% on every shift. There is no team for out of shape guys who want a slower game bookended by beer.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 17:58
|
|
|
We set lines with whoever shows up, usually with about 1 min left in warm ups
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 18:29
|
|
|
Henrik Zetterberg posted:My LTP class was rolling lines during the scrimmage. Once we entered the Bronze league, we had assigned lines like every beer league team in history. You can't build chemistry if you're constantly playing with different lines every game/shift. That guy is a dickhole. My coed team sets lines in like the last 10 seconds of warmup. People may get into a groove playing a particular position so with consistent attendance we may end up with the same lines a couple games in a row, but it's not set in stone. I honestly kind of like this, it's nice to get to play with almost everyone and feel like (hopefully) I can make something happen with any of them. bewbies posted:After our game last night we had an intense argument about ice time. As in, gently caress YOU I AM IN WORSE SHAPE THAN YOU ARE I NEED A REST SO YOU GET OUT THERE versus NO I AM IN WORSE SHAPE AND I DONT EVEN BACKCHECK SO YOU GET OUT THERE Ha! I love those arguments the best. All-olds hockey rules. Pinky Artichoke fucked around with this message at 18:47 on May 14, 2014 |
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 18:45
|
|
|
Pleads posted:If your buddy says "hey let's sign up for ball hockey" and you go "haha ball hockey yeah sure" and you're one of those guys who always takes a puck off the top of the skate on the ice, you should probably not go "haha ball hockey who needs pads". You can have my old tiny soccer shinguards once I buy some giant monster ones that actually go to my knee
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 18:59
|
|
|
sellouts posted:We set lines with whoever shows up, usually with about 1 min left in warm ups
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 19:21
|
|
|
Pleads posted:If your buddy says "hey let's sign up for ball hockey" and you go "haha ball hockey yeah sure" and you're one of those guys who always takes a puck off the top of the skate on the ice, you should probably not go "haha ball hockey who needs pads". I don't know what those pictures are supposed to be. I just see a yellow dot and a red dot on a sheet of white. As far as lines go, Doctor Butts' team sets up lines in the locker room. My other team just figures it out on the bench at puck drop. That team only ever runs the same 4 defensemen, so it's easy for that since we play with the same pairings each week.
|
|
#
?
May 14, 2014 22:37
|
|
|
Alternate idea: make Whiny McIcetime team captain, his buddies the assistants and let him get a taste of what real adult league problems are- I assume you have to collect the money and there are 3 guys who "will pay next week" this far into the season
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2014 12:46
|
|
|
EvilTwig posted:Alternate idea: make Whiny McIcetime team captain, his buddies the assistants and let him get a taste of what real adult league problems are- I assume you have to collect the money and there are 3 guys who "will pay next week" this far into the season "Hey, I'm a little shy this month, Can I just give you $10 today? I'll have the rest in 2 weeks." "Yes, I think I should have equal ice time to the guys that payed in full already, why do you ask?"
|
|
#
?
May 15, 2014 14:46
|
|
|
EvilTwig posted:Alternate idea: make Whiny McIcetime team captain, his buddies the assistants and let him get a taste of what real adult league problems are- I assume you have to collect the money and there are 3 guys who "will pay next week" this far into the season This. I captained/organized for my team's last two seasons. I had great help from some veteran players on the team but boy was it still stressful. Making sure everyone knows the schedule, ensuring a goalie (we didn't have a full time one), establishing lines, coaching newer players, managing the group during a game, and probably more that I blocked out. One of my players got in a fight in our third game. After I told him he had a six game suspension and fines, he went berserk. He got drunk and started sending me all of these crazy text message all through the night about how he goes to war for our team etc. etc. Then when he came back? We all go to the bar and he pulls a knife after getting in a fight with another drunk person. Holy poo poo what a hassle. The only easy part was that we had full sponsorship. We only had $20/person to make sure I could bring a thirty rack to every game. I'm playing on a buddy's team this summer. It's gonna be good: show up, play, drink, home. No hassle, no worries.
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2014 05:26
|
|
|
^^ is that guys name Rafi? Cause he sounds awesome.  MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2014 05:39
|
|
|
Habibi posted:Trip report: got on the ice for the first time in hockey skates (and maybe 4th time in last 15 years) at a s/p this morning. That was certainly a different experience. Most of my inline instincts are completely wrong - going backward is the only thing that seems to have transferred well, which surprised me. Can't stop worth a poo poo. Lots of fun. Definitely discovered muscles I never used in roller.
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2014 05:42
|
|
|
Henrik Zetterberg posted:^^ is that guys name Rafi? Cause he sounds awesome. Every team needs it's criminal element, I suppose. I'm working on next season's sponsorship. Here in Colorado we've gone full hippy and legalized weed. If I can get a joint sponsorship between our local pot shop and Chinese restaurant I can die happy. I want a jersey with a no joke giant pot leaf on it.
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2014 14:08
|
|
|
19 o'clock posted:Every team needs it's criminal element, I suppose. I see what u did thur
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2014 15:03
|
|
|
19 o'clock posted:Every team needs it's criminal element, I suppose. This is great. Just great. You should rename your team the Colorado Pot Leafs and wear a green and white color scheme. Everyone is number 420.
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2014 15:19
|
|
|
I don't want to be blunt, but you might want to weed out your sponsors a bit more. I'm not convinced they're going to be bowled over by the idea.
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2014 15:20
|
|
|
19 o'clock posted:This. I captained/organized for my team's last two seasons. I had great help from some veteran players on the team but boy was it still stressful. Making sure everyone knows the schedule, ensuring a goalie (we didn't have a full time one), establishing lines, coaching newer players, managing the group during a game, and probably more that I blocked out. This is the ultimate beer league experience right here.
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2014 15:41
|
|
|
Make everyone on the team call it "weed league."
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2014 15:41
|
|
|
xzzy posted:Make everyone on the team call it "weed league." Why not just switch to inline jeez.
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2014 16:04
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 17, 2024 09:02 |
|
|
19 o'clock posted:Every team needs it's criminal element, I suppose. We've got a few teams like that here. A modified Kamloops blazers jersey and one team with a giant green pot leaf over Toronto jerseys. Somehow the process they used for the jersey lets them wear them inside out when they need a light color (light blue but almost white). Also both of these teams are really loving good.
|
|
#
?
May 16, 2014 16:46
|
|