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Fauxtool posted:its a rare drop off a playable officer. The numbers on the skills are extra high and it only comes with those skills. You also can't modify those skills using the blacksmith the way you can with normal weapons. If you don't plan to use it, your best bet is to just sell it.
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May 15, 2014 00:16
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Kreczor posted:Can someone explain to me why this weapon has a golden star beside it and seems special? I can't understand it. The best part of these rare drops in my opinion is they sell for way more than other weapons of the same star level.
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Stelas posted:Lu Bu's kid is a bit of a let-down. I don't like the feel of sitting around waiting for her weapon to return to her after moves, and she doesn't really seem to have much in the way of area coverage. One of her EX moves turns her into a death tornado and then powers up her weapon. Also, you can equip Havoc for greater attack range.
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May 15, 2014 00:28
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I don't know about you guys but I never not have Havoc equipped.
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Stelas posted:Lu Bu's kid is a bit of a let-down. I don't like the feel of sitting around waiting for her weapon to return to her after moves, and she doesn't really seem to have much in the way of area coverage. You can also just hit attack to cancel out of the animation and start a new combo. I think you have to be lvl 30+? She's not amazing like Jia Chong, but shes far from the worst officer
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Maleketh posted:You also can't modify those skills using the blacksmith the way you can with normal weapons. If you don't plan to use it, your best bet is to just sell it. I feel I should mention that if you are playing DW8 and trying to get the all weapons achievement don't sell the special weapons. You can only have one of each of them so keeping it ensures that each new special weapon drop is a new weapon instead of getting the same ones over and over.
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May 15, 2014 00:49
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Has any commonality been discovered in this "won't load levels" thing? Amount of bits in OS? Nvidia/AMD? Proximity to ley lines?
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May 15, 2014 01:00
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Bloodly posted:I'd have thought the so-called 'complete edition' would have that DLC in place already. Isn't that the point of calling it so?
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May 15, 2014 01:05
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Well Europa Universalis 3 was Complete until they released another two expansions.
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Unlucky7 posted:I don't know about you guys but I never not have Havoc equipped. My go to skills are Quick Learner, Accuracy, Attack Boost, Mighty Roar. I keep trying out Fortune Hunter but it's only level 2 so I haven't noticed much of a difference. Accuracy is nice in Hard mode since it gives you a slightly better chance to get through all the blocking officers do. Havoc and Victory Cry have their uses, too Just so nobody else has to go searching for it: to level up Fortune Hunter you have to kill 1500 dudes and then beat on officer.
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Scalding Coffee posted:I guess "complete" meant base and expansion or there will not be any DLC, ever. This is a Koei game, the "complete" basically just means "You don't have to pay another $40 for Xtreme Legends content!"
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May 15, 2014 01:44
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This weapon I just got has Aggression listed twice, and each one says it has a different effect
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:This weapon I just got has Aggression listed twice, and each one says it has a different effect Yeah, I've seen that. The game has a few labeling errors. I seriously doubt, for example, that a set of level-1 claws is supposed to be called "Godly Axe." Also see my aforementioned quote about Diaochain getting enraged when you take out Lu Bu (which you get after beating Diaochan).
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Shima Honnou posted:This is a Koei game, the "complete" basically just means "You don't have to pay another $40 for Xtreme Legends content!" Yeah Complete in this case means your platform didn't get regular DW8 so we're being nice and giving you both in one purchase.
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May 15, 2014 05:09
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Wasn't there a Kamen Rider game of the Musou variety, or something?
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Lizard Wizard posted:Wasn't there a Kamen Rider game of the Musou variety, or something? Yeah, Kamen Rider: Battride War. The sequel's coming soon/may actually be out now for PS3 and Wii U. There's some neat ideas in it and some interesting characters (I know nothing about Kamen Rider) but it's got some real problems. Frame rate issues, lack of variety, small stages, weird move-sets, the bike riding is bad, game looks really ugly outside of the character models, and the whole thing just seems really shoddily put together. I thought there were some neat systems in it, like Musou being replaced with a Rider transformation mode and having dedicated armor breaking moves that cost meter, but the whole thing comes across as a prototype game like Ken's Rage or Pirate Warriors. I had some fun, got a Platinum out of it, I got it used for $45 off eBay and thought that was an okay deal.
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Okay so I'm a bit confused- are there any weapon specializations by character anymore? Like, I see that Sun Shangxiang can earn up to a 5 affinity with a bunch of weapons, but even with different stuff equipped she still uses her chakrams during musou attacks- is she somehow better with them than any other weapon, or can anyone become equally skilled with anything?
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Omi no Kami posted:Okay so I'm a bit confused- are there any weapon specializations by character anymore? Like, I see that Sun Shangxiang can earn up to a 5 affinity with a bunch of weapons, but even with different stuff equipped she still uses her chakrams during musou attacks- is she somehow better with them than any other weapon, or can anyone become equally skilled with anything? Each character has an EX attack (or two if you're playing XL) with his preferred weapon, which is a special "add-on" to a specific strong attack. EX attacks tend to be good, but if your chosen character uses a weapon you don't like, you don't significantly hurt your fighting ability by using something else. In Sun Shangxiang's case, she's best with wheels, almost as good with all other Dash-type weapons, and varying degrees of less good with everything else.
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May 15, 2014 07:05
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Sometimes the ambush skill has unforeseen side effects.
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I shouldn't be surprised, but the lack of online multiplayer was such a letdown to me, one of my childhood friends whom I live far away from now was really hyped to relive our fun times with co-op back in the PS2 days, but the news have made him cancel his plans to get the game at this time  . Maybe it's for the best though, you guys have sold it on me enough to get it for the solo play, but now I can at least reasonably make myself wait till post-exams for this!
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even though I have the game on ps4, I would have rebought on steam just for online multiplayer
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I've been playing DW8 for a bit and am liking it a lot. They really made each weapon type feel powerful and dynamic - everything just flows so smoothly. I have a few really basic questions, though, since things have changed in minute, but confusing ways over the years. I haven't played DW since 5, and I've just spent the past month or so playing Samurai Warriors 2, so these might be some "duh" questions, but I can't quite wrap my head around a few things.
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I did the Imperial Escort mission for Wei yesterday when a glitch happened. Everybody stopped moving except the opposing army and Lu Bu. Luckily Xiahou Yuan is able to stunlock Lu Bu with his charge attack really easily. I was only able to finish the mission by manually pushing the emperor into the escape point to continue the script. Also Cao Cao got lodged inside the carriage while on his horse. Hakkesshu posted:
Whatever level that you are at when you recruit a character, they'll be at the same level. Though they wont scale further so you have to level them up separately after recruiting them. There's also probably some max level they can start with too so you can't grind to max and then run through the story missions. Golden Goat fucked around with this message at 11:21 on May 15, 2014 |
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Hakkesshu posted:
1. Playing a nation's main story mode gains levels for all officers in that nation, in KT fashion it's not explained at all. EDIT: Or it's what Golden Goat said. You can also eventually pay to level allies up in Ambition mode. Free Mode grinding is probably the slowest way to gain levels unless you're playing on Chaos or Ultimate. For Hard you want to be at least lvl 50. 2. If you want to try Ultimate difficulty you'll need a lvl 150 character, and you'll need to forge a good level 4 weapon. There are guides around for that. 3. If they don't have a symbol over their head they're neutral. Don't worry too much about levelling the skills, they just happen as you play. You'll be killing officers in two swipes soon enough (on Normal anyway). The only one that's a pain is Fortune Hunter. 4. I don't remember any gates to close. That was more of an Empires thing. Some maps have "reinforcement points" you can control, but that's in Ambition mode. 5. It's a good idea to at least take out Unit Officers/Captains as they can kill lower ranking allies if given enough time, or will stall the progress of certain objectives. 6. Just buy one or two good weapons for people you like as you go along. Wait until you get near the end of a nation's Story mode and then do a big sell off and buying spree for level 4 stuff. Keep the star weapons if you care about filling in the Weapon gallery. Eventually you'll be looking for good weapons to use in forging so don't blindly sell everything all the time. Keep anything with a good skill at a decent level. Static Rook fucked around with this message at 11:55 on May 15, 2014 |
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Thanks for the answers! I completely forgot about Ambition Mode  Static Rook posted:4. I don't remember any gates to close. That was more of an Empires thing. Some maps have "reinforcement points" you can control, but that's in Ambition mode. In old DW/SW (not Empires), every spawn point would have a guard captain stationed next to it. If you killed him, you stopped enemies from spawning. This doesn't seem to happen in 8; it'll keep endlessly spawning groups with new unit officers, effectively creating a secondary time limit since you can never stop your camp from being assaulted. I assume they did this to increase the difficulty, but losing a mission because your commander died on the other side of the map has always been my least favourite thing about these games. Edit: Oh, I forgot: How do you learn new skills? I'd like to open up Quick Learner sooner rather than later. Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 12:08 on May 15, 2014 |
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Hakkesshu posted:How do you learn new skills? I'd like to open up Quick Learner sooner rather than later. When selecting skills it shows you how to get them/level them up. In the case of Quick learner it's Defeat an enemy officer that is afflicted with a status ailment. On the guard captain thing, there's nothing like that in this it seems though usually they stop spawning if you kill nearly officers and go past that area. Though i'm not too sure what affects it.
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Hakkesshu posted:Edit: I'd like to open up Quick Learner sooner rather than later. Look out for a weapon with high status effects - there's a 3-gold-star Podao that is perfect for this with Morass 9 and Venom 9, and others are likely to have similar loadouts - then just use that at every possible opportunity as you go through the other story levels. Gates are almost exclusively a 'what's happening in the plot at the moment' thing, so they're managed by the flow of events rather than just by killing a Guard Captain. Stelas fucked around with this message at 12:31 on May 15, 2014 |
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Hakkesshu posted:Thanks for the answers! I completely forgot about Ambition Mode The times I remember your main camp/commander really being constantly attacked are on specific battles where that's A Thing. Usually if you clear away the guys around the camp you don't have to worry too much. Plus with the horse you can get back quick if you need, even quicker if you use the musou attack while riding. You unlock the skills by doing the same thing you need to do to level them up. So, for Quick Learner you have to "kill an officer afflicted with a status ailment." Some people have EX moves that will give their weapon a fire/poison/slow buff, or you can buy/find a weapon with one of those skills on it. Slow is the easiest one to use for this, I think it's called Morass in the game. BUT, just fulfilling the requirement doesn't mean you'll get the unlock/level up. KT made it a percentage chance to unlock, higher percentage on higher difficulty. How "fun." But again, you'll unlock and level poo poo up like crazy just by playing. Only Fortune Hunter and Equestrian are ones you have to go out of your way to level. For you and anybody else just getting into/getting back into the game I'd again suggest skipping back 10-20 pages in the thread to when the PS4/Vita versions came out. We had a lot of the same issues/questions and there were some informative posts. Not that asking lots of questions is bad either, glad to the thread picking up in traffic. PC version does seem way buggier though.
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Sakurazuka posted:I liked the first NNN, the only thing that really needed improving was the lack of checkpoints or mid stage saves. I feel the same way. I liked NNN for the fact that they made the move sets for characters unique.
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Static Rook posted:The times I remember your main camp/commander really being constantly attacked are on specific battles where that's A Thing. Usually if you clear away the guys around the camp you don't have to worry too much. Plus with the horse you can get back quick if you need, even quicker if you use the musou attack while riding. I really am curious as to whether morale is still present as a real thing that needs managing, and whether it's actually possible to get to a state where the AI can do kills and stuff without you. It seems unclear.
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Bloodly posted:I really am curious as to whether morale is still present as a real thing that needs managing, and whether it's actually possible to get to a state where the AI can do kills and stuff without you. It seems unclear. To be honest it depends on the stage. Generally if you complete missions correctly and defeat enough officers early in the battle, your allies will be able to mop up to an extent. However, in other battles you'll find even the likes of Lu Bu struggling if he's up against a couple of Mobile Unit Captains.
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Bloodly posted:I really am curious as to whether morale is still present as a real thing that needs managing, and whether it's actually possible to get to a state where the AI can do kills and stuff without you. It seems unclear. It is, though definitely to a lesser extent and it seems like it only happens if the enemy general isn't event-important or you're there watching them beat him up. Anything else and the game will basically wait for you to catch up.
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Bloodly posted:I really am curious as to whether morale is still present as a real thing that needs managing, and whether it's actually possible to get to a state where the AI can do kills and stuff without you. It seems unclear. I was playing the Battle of Guan Du (Cao Cao vs Yuan Shao) yesterday as the twin hooks guy (Yue Jin I think) and while I attacked the fort on the left, Xiahou Dun, Li Dian, and the rest of them just stomped all over Baima and the other castle. It was ridiculous. They easily took out 50% of the army while I sat in the one fort in front of our base taking out ~3 officers and starting a fire attack. AI is insanely good given the right conditions. Also, I have equestrian 9 already, but what does it actually improve? Horse speed? Is there a way to use my animals from Ambition Mode in the story? I want to play Dian Wei riding an elephant on Chi Bi.
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Is there a site where I can find the changes each DW game made to the series?
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Brony Hunter posted:The best part of these rare drops in my opinion is they sell for way more than other weapons of the same star level. While that is good, if they have a high stat on something useful like Recovery or velocity, I'll hang onto it for reforging.
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Yesss, Zhang Jiao still has the crazy voice. And if you play as him, give Dong Zhuo a katana, turn him into just a complete goon. Shame he has poo poo compatibility with it.
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Shima Honnou posted:Yesss, Zhang Jiao still has the crazy voice. And if you play as him, give Dong Zhuo a katana, turn him into just a complete goon. Shame he has poo poo compatibility with it. Dong Zhuo's bomb EXs are so sweet, and bombs are so much fun in the first place I wouldn't switch off it for any reason.
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So is money ever a problem for story mode, because I'm just rolling in dough and have still way too many dinky weapons to sell off.
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Kreczor posted:Is there a way to use my animals from Ambition Mode in the story? I want to play Dian Wei riding an elephant on Chi Bi. Free Mode lets you do this. Shima Honnou posted:And if you play as him, give Dong Zhuo a katana, turn him into just a complete goon. Shame he has poo poo compatibility with it. Get Zhou Tai to level 50 and you'll unlock a skill to give anyone 4-star compatibility with curved swords. Tae posted:So is money ever a problem for story mode, because I'm just rolling in dough and have still way too many dinky weapons to sell off. Not really. It's possible to blow a lot of cash on XP and stat increases in Ambition Mode, but otherwise money is never really a problem.
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