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Zark the Damned posted:Gut's Sword was made specifically to kill dragons IIRC. Not sure if this is the kinda thing you're after. I love the back story on the Dragonslayer. The King sent out a message to all the master smiths in the kingdom, "Create a sword strong enough to kill a dragon!". The smith Godot thought about it for a while and then produced a completely unwieldable mass of steel taller than the average man. The King wasn't particularly amused and ordered him to be executed.
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A challenger appears!  ETA: Seriously, it's Nick Fury, with no shirt on, riding a rocketbike, through a wall, firing two laser pistols as he goes. That's a pretty drat amazing comic page. darthbob88 fucked around with this message at 20:24 on May 12, 2014 |
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May 12, 2014 20:20
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darthbob88 posted:A challenger appears! First thing I thought of when I finished reading the text.
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7c Nickel posted:I love the back story on the Dragonslayer. So Guts is just running around killing people with a novelty wall ornament. That's pretty badass, sort of.
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May 13, 2014 00:20
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Ratoslov posted:So Guts is just running around killing people with a novelty wall ornament. That's pretty badass, sort of. Yeah, well the only reason he uses it is because as a child he trained with a full size sword, then moved up to a two handed sword until that thing was the only weapon he was comfortable with.
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Kwyndig posted:Yeah, well the only reason he uses it is because as a child he trained with a full size sword, then moved up to a two handed sword until that thing was the only weapon he was comfortable with. The two-handed sword wasn't enough to challenge him. He'd practice his swings with bundles of logs tied to the blade just to make it heavier. After the flashback arc, he'd gotten even bigger and buffer from all that time fighting demons and apostles. So he needed a bigger sword, naturally.
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May 13, 2014 00:34
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Oh Berserk  one day I will get around to picking you up again (hopefully when it ends).
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Weirdo posted:Oh Berserk You and I both know that Miura and GRRM are going to drop dead from heart attacks on the same day
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fatherdog posted:You and I both know that Miura and GRRM are going to drop dead from heart attacks on the same day It'll be a sad day, losing that creative mind. Oh, and Martin too.
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Hey guys I'm looking for a specific picture from the old thread. Black female crusader/paladin standing in a river (I am pretty sure). She had a red cross on the chestplate. She always came up whenever badass women in armor, not boobplate, were requested. In return here's some Dresden Files RPG commissions I had done for my thread! The guy in the Salmon shirt is a diviner so everyone's Tarot cards were included as part of the theme.       
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Vorpal Cat posted:Does anyone have pictures of Monster Killing weapons. Things that look like they were clearly designed to take down inhuman target, Medieval tech or earlier preferably. I think the "mancatcher", or a giant-sized version of it, would be a pretty good generalist anti-monster weapon. Edit: The only 'realistic' way for a small team of adventurers to take down a monster is to try to handicap & confuse it until the kill-shot can be lined up safely. Speleothing fucked around with this message at 06:19 on May 13, 2014 |
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Not exactly realistic but the Monster Hunter series definitely has some weapons that look like they were designed for killing thing more then tree times your size. The fact that most of them are made from bones claws an other assorted bits of said monsters doesn't hurt.    A bit to flashy for my tastes, but dedicated monster killing weapons are surprisingly rare it seems. You would think with how common stories and games about fighting giant fantasy monster are that there would be other examples of specialized monster fighting weapons out there. edit: I just remembered the dragon slayer greatbow from Dark Souls:  It shoots specially designed arrows the size of javelins and has a spike on the bottom that you plant into the ground to hold the weight of the bow when you draw it. edit mk2: VVVVVV Timing, I just finished editing my post to include the great bow when I saw your reply VVVVVV Vorpal Cat fucked around with this message at 09:08 on May 13, 2014 |
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I'm not seeing good art for them in a quick search but the black knight weapons and the dragonslayer greatbow from Dark Souls are all huge for the purposes of killing huge things.
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PublicOpinion posted:I'm not seeing good art for them in a quick search but the black knight weapons and the dragonslayer greatbow from Dark Souls are all huge for the purposes of killing huge things. To give people an idea of the size of the greatbow:  It's also worth noting that most of the people in Dark Souls 1 are actually giants or descended from giants, and so are much bigger than the player. Their equipment magically shrinks down to human size when you equip it, but otherwise this is what a dragonslayer greatbow actually looks like at its original size:  That's Gough. He's a giant, and a knight, and has a greatbow. Check out how big he is relative to the player's normal, human-sized character. The bow is poking out from behind him, slightly.  That's the bow being drawn by Gough. e; this gives a good sense of the scale in motion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpsi2aGKXPw Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 09:16 on May 13, 2014 |
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Ratoslov posted:So Guts is just running around killing people with a novelty wall ornament. That's pretty badass, sort of. At one point in the story, someone comments that Guts has spent so much time killing demons, that he's basically made it a magical weapon due to all of the demon blood getting all over it. It's pretty good justification to why a dude with a sword might have a chance at fighting Horrible Gods from Behind the Veil of Reality.
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Picks and spears of various types would make sense for killing things significantly larger and tougher than yourself. Enough weight to build up a lot of force in the swing, or thrust with your entire weight behind it, a very small contact area to penetrate thick hide, relatively simple to use so you can throw a lot of expendable peasants at the problem... Traps of some sort would probably be better though.
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May 13, 2014 13:00
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Or you could use them to climb whatever you're fighting 
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Speaking of climbing enemies, have a colossus.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:To give people an idea of the size of the greatbow: Also worth mentioning that Gough is blind (look at how he fumbles for the bow in the video.)
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Next Deadlands character found.
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Objectivist Rapist posted:Also worth mentioning that Gough is blind (look at how he fumbles for the bow in the video.) Not blind, his helmet's eye slits are covered in resin. From DS2, giants appear to be some kind of weird amalgamation of earth, tree and something. 
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Vorpal Cat posted:Does anyone have pictures of Monster Killing weapons. Things that look like they were clearly designed to take down inhuman target, Medieval tech or earlier preferably. If you're looking for things that actually existed, the best is to look at when humans actually had to face off against animals that were larger than them and highly aggressive. Think bears, boars, and big cats. In most cases, the best approach was to use a ranged weapon - a bow, a sling, or a javelin - and to be mobile - mounted on a horse or elephant, or on a chariot. If you had to face something like that on foot, you'd usually want a spear or pike. Particularly in the case of a bear or boar, which are aggressive enough to press home an attack despite being speared, you want a spear with a very broad head, and perhaps one with a cross guard or lugs. The broad head causes a large wound, but the major advantage is its harder for the speared animal to push up the haft of the spear. The crossguard or lugs do the same thing, but more so.   That second image includes what looks like a very large knife, but could also be a hunting sword. A hunting sword is really just a large, long dirk or knife with a single curved edge and often a serrated back. They're primarily for finishing off wounded prey of the large and aggressive type - the length means you can slash a throat from a good arm's length away, similar principal to using a sword in combat over a knife. In some cases swords like that, or just single edged swords in general (double edged straight blades would work but don't really get any special benefit in this application) would be used for hunting large game, but its mostly a showing-off sort of thing. For a more fanciful idea, there's this thing.  Now, it looks weird, but the idea fits with the bear spear and combines some features of another large animal killing weapon.    Whales are definitely very large, very tough, and can be very aggressive. But the way a harpoon works demonstrates a key difference between actual animals and fantasy monsters - animals tend to run away unless cornered. Bears and boars are partial exceptions, which is why they have specialist tools for hunting them. But a large, animal like enemy would be susceptible to a harpoon strategy - spear it in such a way that a line is stuck in it, then let it drag something heavy until its exhausted, either to death or to the point that you can close and dispatch it with another weapon (a lance was typical for whales, stabbed into the heart, but a hammer blow to the head or a cut throat on a fantastical creature could work as well). So about that key difference - most animals don't press home attacks the way a monster would. Humans long ago drove to extinction the large predators we'd regularly encounter that have those habits, with the exception of the largest bears and cats, but even cats tend not to fight that way. However, humans have long faced large, powerful foes who do press home their attacks - cavalry and elephantry. In both cases, you have a composite unit of a human guiding a powerful war animal, but the comparison to a monster makes sense. So most weapons used to deal with those foes would make sense for application against monsters. That means, again, lots of missile weapons, spears, pikes, lances, and other polearms. In fact, when the Romans fought war elephants the way they took them down was to attack with spears and javelins, getting them to turn to present a flank (usually less well armored), and then stabbing with a lance or spear. They'd also try to sever the elephant's trunk, which would cause it to panic, immediately making it as much a danger to its allies as to its enemies. In fact, a panicked elephant would usually try to run away from whatever panicked it, so it would turn a formidable weapon against its masters. In these cases, its less about specialist weapons than it is about technique. The same would probably hold true for monsters, so it may not be too strange that you'd take on an ogre or a landwyrm with your usual sword and axe and bow, especially if you are more often facing human-like enemies. Oh, and there's one other category of weapons that footsoldiers would wield against mounted opponents. Really big swords.   
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Tasoth posted:Not blind, his helmet's eye slits are covered in resin. From DS2, giants appear to be some kind of weird amalgamation of earth, tree and something. DS2 giants and DS1 giants are completely different. DS1 giants are just big people (look at the Anor Londo knights). DS2 giants are the weird rock-tree things.
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Depending on your wanted level of technology you could go with the bomb lance. It was an explosive bolt designed to penetrate and explode inside of whales to dispatch them with out having to get close.    If you are looking for fantastic equivalents; nothing says you can't take the concept and make it a giant gently caress-off crossbow that fires alchemical/magical bolts.
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The old fashioned method of "herd it into the brush and then torch everything" would probably work as well.
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May 14, 2014 11:43
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Another excellent weapon against large creatures, GRAVITY.
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7c Nickel posted:Another excellent weapon against large creatures,
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thespaceinvader posted:*may not be effective against dragons. Sure it is, you just drive from the other direction at the bottom.
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thespaceinvader posted:*may not be effective against dragons. It is after Hawkeye Gough gets done with them.
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Attack on Titan is a manga and anime series that's pretty much "how do you take down giants?" in serialized form. (The answer: gas-powered grappling devices and razor-sharp swords with breakaway blades  )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwbJOSm4SUs
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Silhouette posted:Attack on Titan is a manga and anime series that's pretty much "how do you take down giants?" in serialized form. Which is pretty silly, all things considered, since all it would really take is some nets and trip-wires. 
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DrSunshine posted:Which is pretty silly, all things considered, since all it would really take is some nets and trip-wires. Since they've got gunpowder and cannons, they could also use a series of petards (medieval-era shaped charge) connected by chains to amputate and decapitate the Titans. And, if you're using those rocket packs to out-maneuver the Titans, wrap your scouts in primitive suicide vests when they get inevitably eaten by the Titans.
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Well, the thing is, in the series, the titans can regenerate from any injury except a slice across the back of the neck.
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Less sperg arguments about anime, more posting cool art. Specifically, spaceships and starfighters.                  
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Rad angel time: Artist's comment: quote:
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PublicOpinion posted:Rad angel time: 
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Comrade Gorbash posted:Less sperg arguments about anime, more posting cool art. someone (some several people?) have really taken Feng Zhu's conceptual style to heart and it's awesome
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PublicOpinion posted:Rad angel time: Concept art from http://killsixbilliondemons.com/    
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Comrade Gorbash posted:A punch of well thought out words on hunting large and dangerous beasts. This topic has produced far more discussion then I expected. However I occurs to me now that for every 20+ foot tall fantasy monster there are a hell of lot more in the 8 to 15 foot tall range, like ogres, giants, minotaurs and so on. Things that aren't gigantic, but they are much bigger then you, and there also smart enough to wield weapons of their own. Which requires entirely different tactics to bring down, luckily while historically people didn't inven't a hell of a lot of way to take down things that were 20 feet tall they did even a hell of a lot of way to take down things that were 8 feet tall, weighed over 1 ton, and were heavily armed aka cavalry.  Now the simplest solution is to just get a bunch of your friends together and get some really long sharp sticks.    But that's not always an option for your average adventuring party but your still going to want something to negate the range disadvantage. Luckily the late middle ages that most fantasy worlds seem to be perpetually stuck in is nothing if not a cornucopia of sharp thing on the end of sticks for the purpose of killing things form a safe distance.  And then there's always the classic fantasy cliche, really big swords. Most likely developed as a counter to very pike formations pictured above, without leaving you defenseless against cavalry the way a sword and shield would. Those spike you see on some of the blades aren't just for show they serve as a second crossgaurd and the area behind them isn't sharpened so you can grip your hand there and wield the weapon as a short spear instead of sword if your defending against cavalry or are simply too close to swing the weapon effectively. These would probably kill an ogre or like fairly nicely assuming you were able to get close enough to use it without getting your face smashed in.  Now if non of those options appeal to you there's also always the romantic option. The momentum of over a ton of metal and flesh moving at over thirty miles an hour all brought to bear on a single point. Your probably only going to get one shot, but if you hit you seriously going to ruin someone day. Although this whole thing may be a bit off topic so here's some of the raddest angels from MTG just in case.  Iona, Shield of Emeria from Zendikar  Chancellor of the Annex from New Phyrexia  Firemane Angel from Ravnica  Pristine Angel From Mirrodin
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