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zoux posted:Oh hey Indiana is totally expanding Medicaid except they totally aren't doing that No actually this fucks ~400,000 people compared to if we had just expanded Medicaid. Differences between HIP and Medicaid give us a coverage gap to the tune of ~200,000 people between HIP and where the rest of the ACA kicks in. (Numbers from Andre Carson's (IN-07) statement)
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Jazerus posted:A.C.E.'s math instruction is probably a direct descendant of the pre-World War 2 curriculum for the lower classes, which was often based on the assumption that a student would be leaving school after the 8th grade. Higher math was for the people who could figure it out despite their lack of preparation or who had intellectual support other than school to manage the transition. That I don't know enough about this to comment on for certain. What I can say is that A.C.E. was designed around the idea that the "Leaders of Tomorrow" are going to be primarily office workers, so the idea has been to churn out as many office workers as possible so as to sway public policy towards the religious right. As a result of this, one of the key defining design components is to simulate an office environment as much as possible for students, complete with deliberately arbitrary bureaucratic rules that exist only to increase busywork for the students. Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 23:50 on May 15, 2014 |
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Ditocoaf posted:Maybe it's just me, but it seems self-evident that it's easier to retain a solid understanding of concepts than to retain 100 separate seemingly-arbitrary formulas. When I forget a formula because I haven't used it in a while, I can usually think about the concept for a minute and devise the formula from scratch. Believe it or not, this is a remarkably rare trait. Step into a basic statistics class and it becomes very apparent.
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agarjogger posted:Tell us about the relationship between grocery unions and self-checkout. The correct answer of course is WinCo. One just opened down the road from me  . Costco isn't bad either, they treat their workers pretty damned well.EDIT: re: everyday math literacy, snapped this menu piece about a year ago at red robin (my inlaws are canadian, they insist on going there at least once whenever they visit..) 
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May 16, 2014 00:19
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inthesto posted:Believe it or not, this is a remarkably rare trait. Step into a basic statistics class and it becomes very apparent. It's a rare trait to actually possess but boy howdy is it a common trait to brag about anecdotally. It's the education equivalent of "sure, I've seen the statistics, but I see people with gold chains and the latest iPhone using food stamps all the time ! "I've never had a student who could actually produce results of this nature, just like you'll never see an actual name or face attached to a welfare abuse anecdote.
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Bhaal posted:I'll admit I'm not that familiar with the grocery industry but FWIW the Safeways in my area have not put in a single self checkout and I'm pretty sure they have a union of some sort. Safeway might be more or less evil regionally, I don't know. My only problem with Costco is as a customer in that the only credit cards they accept is american express and I use my MasterCard debit card for everything.
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Doomsayer posted:There are definite problems in Common Core, the removal of multiplication tables is one of them. CCSS.MATH.CONTENT.3.OA.C.7 posted:Fluently multiply and divide within 100, using strategies such as the relationship between multiplication and division (e.g., knowing that 8 × 5 = 40, one knows 40 ÷ 5 = 8) or properties of operations. By the end of Grade 3, know from memory all products of two one-digit numbers.
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Khisanth Magus posted:My only problem with Costco is as a customer in that the only credit cards they accept is american express and I use my MasterCard debit card for everything. The only credit card. They take Visa/MC debit.
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May 16, 2014 00:45
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Yep. This is why most Common Core criticism is BS. Common Core has nothing to do with dictating curriculum. The removal of multiplication tables is an unforced error from your local school board.
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inthesto posted:Believe it or not, this is a remarkably rare trait. Step into a basic statistics class and it becomes very apparent. What, seriously? Let's see the stats on that, because I've done that all my life. I always assumed that's what they meant when they said "you don't really know something until you can teach it" - the ability to have the core concepts down so well you can apply many different metaphors to convey it and work from first principles to higher levels in various metaphors. Warchicken posted:It's a rare trait to actually possess but boy howdy is it a common trait to brag about anecdotally. It's the education equivalent of "sure, I've seen the statistics, but I see people with gold chains and the latest iPhone using food stamps all the time ! "I've never had a student who could actually produce results of this nature, just like you'll never see an actual name or face attached to a welfare abuse anecdote. Ok wait, are we talking Newton like completely unknown breakthroughs here (which I'll believe are very rare) or are we talking abstract reasoning from established concepts? Because it isn't hard at all to figure out, say, the drag equation from the starting point of a position/time graph, and explain why that all comes together,.
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Fried Chicken posted:What, seriously? Let's see the stats on that, because I've done that all my life. I always assumed that's what they meant when they said "you don't really know something until you can teach it" - the ability to have the core concepts down so well you can apply many different metaphors to convey it and work from first principles to higher levels in various metaphors. Oh, I didn't mean to say that this is something you study in statistics. I meant to say that a basic statistics class can easily demonstrate an individual's difficulty with taking abstract ideas and applying them into real formulas. I like to draw on calculating standard deviation: The principle is incredibly simple, but writing out a formula with XYZ looks opaque as hell. For me, it's simple to remember "it's the measure of, on average, how much each data point differs from the mean", and then calculate from there, but most people I've met doing stats 101 could only comprehend it in the form of a plug-and-chug formula, and subsequently get lost in seconds. It really applies to most of basic statistics: Once you understand the idea behind what you're trying to calculate, actually remembering or figuring out the formula is a snap. I realize this is completely anecdotal, but I was in advanced/honors classes all my life, and the number of peers I tutored who got tripped up because they couldn't plug numbers into a formula was pretty staggering. 
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:The only credit card. They take Visa/MC debit. The costco amex is a good deal. 3% on gas and 1% on all costco purchases. Add that with the executive level membership and you get a nice check.
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I hope Rand Paul accidentally uses the word 'negroids' or something soon, because if I have to read several more pages of posts about how kids should or shouldn't be taught mathematics in a specific way I'm gonna start puking blood. Can we at least start the tuition derail again? Where's that dick with the Ted Cruz avatar when you need him?
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Wolfsheim posted:I hope Rand Paul accidentally uses the word 'negroids' or something soon, because if I have to read several more pages of posts about how kids should or shouldn't be taught mathematics in a specific way I'm gonna start puking blood. Can we at least start the tuition derail again? Where's that dick with the Ted Cruz avatar when you need him? He came out against voter ID laws and then immediately had to walk it back, does that work for you? Oh, and Wall Street cratered yesterday for 1 second when HFT algorithms went nuts. But clearly wo don't want to regulate or get rid of that because reasons
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inthesto posted:Oh, I didn't mean to say that this is something you study in statistics. I meant to say that a basic statistics class can easily demonstrate an individual's difficulty with taking abstract ideas and applying them into real formulas. I like to draw on calculating standard deviation: The principle is incredibly simple, but writing out a formula with XYZ looks opaque as hell. For me, it's simple to remember "it's the measure of, on average, how much each data point differs from the mean", and then calculate from there, but most people I've met doing stats 101 could only comprehend it in the form of a plug-and-chug formula, and subsequently get lost in seconds. It really applies to most of basic statistics: Once you understand the idea behind what you're trying to calculate, actually remembering or figuring out the formula is a snap. And it's perfectly trainable. I am absolutely unable to describe it articulately, but I started trying to visualize equations more and after about a month it felt like something clicked. Math, ever since, has been about concepts and intuition and has been easy. Now, I've only gone as far as some basic calc and a smattering of 'stats for science majors interested in research' stuff, which isn't much, but it's all been easy. Math used to be my worst subject and was just inscrutable sorcery. Accretionist fucked around with this message at 01:34 on May 16, 2014 |
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Fried Chicken posted:He came out against voter ID laws and then immediately had to walk it back, does that work for you? HFT is way beyond me, but it seems that something that has the potential to crash a group of stocks in a matter of milliseconds is a bad idea. It's probably a great idea if you want to manipulate the market though. Don't companies pay millions of dollars to co-locate servers feet away from exchanges just to have a millisecond head start on competitors bids?
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Jesus Christ, the article you posted has nothing to do with a flash crash but with someone likely fat fingering trades.
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Sword of Chomsky posted:HFT is way beyond me, but it seems that something that has the potential to crash a group of stocks in a matter of milliseconds is a bad idea. It's probably a great idea if you want to manipulate the market though. Don't companies pay millions of dollars to co-locate servers feet away from exchanges just to have a millisecond head start on competitors bids? Actually I believe the only advantage they get is against regular traders. All the machines in the HFT room have their cables cut to the exact same length to avoid giving anyone a speed advantage.
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May 16, 2014 02:06
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This was a ways back but it's really good and worth watching. Very important points made in a straightforward manner.
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So have the 10-20 million patriotic protesters all checked in to their D.C. hotels yet? Is there indication at all that this weekend in D.C. will be anything other than business and tourism as usual?
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radical meme posted:So have the 10-20 million patriotic protesters all checked in to their D.C. hotels yet? Is there indication at all that this weekend in D.C. will be anything other than business and tourism as usual? I dunno. I hear lawn chair sales have gone though the roof.
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None of the big radio and tv noisemakers have put their name on this one, right? Just one website claiming 30 million patriots are gonna march on the white hut and string up a usurper (peacefully...unless those fascist park rangers start something, of course) I liked the one where ten million truckers were going to bring the beltway to a stop, and exactly two trucks showed up, and neither of them dropped below the legal speed limit.
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May 16, 2014 02:23
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This is the most amazing thing ever: http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2014/05/15/312812153/in-idaho-a-debate-like-youve-never-seen-before quote:There was Walt Bayes, a full-bearded Santa Claus look-alike and abortion opponent, who's the father of 16, and Harley Brown, a leather-clad biker with a pocketful of cigars, a history of being slapped with restraining orders and, according to him, a direct line to God.
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inthesto posted:Believe it or not, this is a remarkably rare trait. Step into a basic statistics class and it becomes very apparent. Or try to tutor College Algebra or a programming course. Kids have it absolutely drilled into them that the path to success is memorization and attempting to actually understand the material is just a distraction from preparing for the next test, and by the time they're in college many of them have completely lost the ability to think abstractly or creatively. It's also cyclical. I was a Math major at a school where the Education department essentially ran the Math department (they got the final say on when most of the major math courses were scheduled, for instance). Even in discrete math, a bunch of the education kids were complaining that inductive proofs wouldn't be used in a classroom. Later on you'd realize that they had basically learned even proof by induction as a canned algorithm without recognizing what it was actually doing or when it was an appropriate strategy to consider. Then these same people who don't understand basic mathematics end up teaching the next generation to just memorize steps instead of understanding concepts. (Not saying, of course, that all teachers are bad or all schools or all students, but rather that it pays to recognize that many students aren't lucky enough to just "figure out" mathematics based on memorization of arithmetic.)
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Joementum posted:Yeah, you're going to want to watch this three minute clip of the closing statements from the two also-ran candidates in the Idaho GOP Gubernatorial primary. The first from a biker who wants to be Governor so he can get some practice for his eventual winning Presidential campaign (God promised him this) and the other from a man who appears to be a 19th century gold prospector who is concerned because his Bible told him we're going to run out of iodine before the nuclear apocalypse. http://www.theonion.com/video/semiliterate-former-gold-prospector-given-own-cabl,17408/ mooyashi posted:There actually was a KrakenWiki way back in the day, but it was about as thin as you would expect a goon project to be. Some of the pages were loving hilarious, though. I can't remember the name of the site for the life of me, but I'd love to see if the Internet Archive scooped it up if anyone can recall. WhiskeyJuvenile posted:My Safeway is unionized Fried Chicken posted:Oh, and Wall Street cratered yesterday for 1 second when HFT algorithms went nuts. But clearly wo don't want to regulate or get rid of that because reasons
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Sword of Chomsky posted:HFT is way beyond me, but it seems that something that has the potential to crash a group of stocks in a matter of milliseconds is a bad idea. It's probably a great idea if you want to manipulate the market though. Don't companies pay millions of dollars to co-locate servers feet away from exchanges just to have a millisecond head start on competitors bids? As the article explains, there are rules in place to prevent orders that are the result of obvious typos, but because this stupid typo was within 25 minutes of closing the trader making the mistake was allowed to go back in time and reverse the trades.
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Interesting factoid: if the Republicans pick up seats in the House this election (likely) and Boehner forced out of his Speaker position (unlikely, but possible) he will be the first Speaker of the House in history to be forced out following a gain of seats by his party. The weird thing here is: the more seats the Republicans gain, the more likely his ouster becomes.
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Meanwhile, Robert Costa Who Was Actually Doing Good Reporting was able to cover an event hosted by Edwin Meese, who is still alive and being terrible. Apparently, Cruz, Lee, Norquist, DeMint, Perkins, and others have drafted a conservative manifesto in opposition of raising taxes, immigration reform, gay rights, etc. that they're planning to use as a litmus test for candidate support.
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Joementum posted:Meanwhile, Robert Costa Who Was Actually Doing Good Reporting was able to cover an event hosted by Edwin Meese, who is still alive and being terrible. Apparently, Cruz, Lee, Norquist, DeMint, Perkins, and others have drafted a conservative manifesto in opposition of raising taxes, immigration reform, gay rights, etc. that they're planning to use as a litmus test for candidate support. Costa seems pretty excited about this piece.  I love how, 7 minutes after his first spam, he decides to hop back on twitter and send out just one more.
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It's amusing how this secret, closed-door summit is billed as the Tea Party fighting back yet people still periodically point to the Tea Party as a grass-roots movement.
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I know everyone loves Common Core chat but can we actually just come to terms with the fact that Common Core doesn't actually teach our kids anything? The curriculum chosen by the schools are what actually state what is taught and how. Common Core just says that you need to teach x, y, and z concepts by certain grade levels. My mother-in-law is currently slogging through curriculum training for Common Core standards in second grade. Kids still gotta learn their times tables. They also need to understand why the numbers work. It makes sense as long as you're not trying to find a reason to hate it. She likes the standards; the curricula, on the other hand, are generally complete garbage because they don't give her the flexibility she needs to teach 25-odd second grades of various SpEd aptitudes with no paraprofessional help whatsoever. Common Core is, in theory, great. As always the execution fucks it up because the curriculum are written by corporations. Big surprise that opponents would rather blame a set of suggestions for standards by the government than the actual meat and potatoes of what gets taught because of what system of books and tests the district decides to buy from a for-profit company with little to no input by said teachers that particular year. In conclusion, if you're gonna get pissed off at something, get pissed off at the right something. For all everyone wants to fellate American execptionalism, people seem to run to the loving hills the minute we're actually held to standards of any sort. Edit: Once again, Vox goes a pretty good job of explaining it all nicely. Robviously fucked around with this message at 04:10 on May 16, 2014 |
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Fried Chicken posted:He came out against voter ID laws and then immediately had to walk it back, does that work for you? I appreciate the now almost cliched "Rand Paul almost sounds reasonable then immediately assures everyone otherwise" content, but what really makes this article is the picture. He looks like a doll that has been brought to life for the sole purpose of murder.
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Spitting, Stalking, Rape Threats: How Gun Extremists Target WomenMother Jones posted:After a fundraiser one night during the program, Longdon returned home around 10 p.m., parked her ramp-equipped van and began unloading herself. As she wheeled up to her house, a man stepped out of the shadows. He was dressed in black and had a rifle, "like something out of a commando movie," Longdon told me. He took aim at her and pulled the trigger. Longdon was hit with a stream of water. "Don't you wish you had a gun now, bitch?" he scoffed before taking off. How does this relate to the phenomenon of guns being viewed as totems instead of tools?
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I want to post two things. Item one: -Butch Otter's Aegis, NPR Butch Otter pulled a Robert Bettencourt by insisting that loonies come to the debate, derailing any politically substantive criticisms from his most threatening primary challenger. Seriously, it's like he watched Alpha House and decided to do exactly what Bettencourt did. The most amazing part of this story? NPR covered it entirely as a joke or viral video, completely obfuscating its significance as a tactic. quote:Wednesday's GOP gubernatorial primary debate in Idaho should carry a disclaimer: NOT a Saturday Night Live skit. It didn't have anything else to do with than the Tea Party challenge! The entire reason Otter let in the kooks was to drown out the voice of the challenger who was actually a threat. But to NPR it's just a funny story. Thanks, NPR. Item two: -Chris Hedges Likes Hamas, And For Good Reason There's no arguing with Chris Hedges. The time for talking about ideas is over, we already know the ideas and regular Americans know the ideas as well. There's nothing productive remaining for the left to do but provide services to the oppressed and in doing so, build a logistical base that can support a movement. Hamas delivered bags of rice to the people of Gaza; nothing else formed the popular base of their movement. They provided direct services for poor folks in Gaza, and in doing so they became the face of change. At the nonprofit where I work I'm often frustrated by the bureaucratic structure (to say the least). In our programs, we do amazing work and fix problems no one else in the state can fix, and we do it with style and ease. Almost to a person, the people who work the floor in our programs harbor radical ideas that we put into practice with youth. Not in any preachy or indoctrinating way; just showing to a homeless or undocumented youth that they have value and rights is radical. Those youth never forget the value of helping people in bad circumstances, and they become the best kind of agent in the community. What's so goddamned frustrating is that there's a bureaucratic structure sitting on top of it all that is always ready to take credit. They've always got board members ready to come out to a new site and turn over a spadeful of earth with a gold-painted shovel for the cameras. They have volunteer groups, project teams from Microsoft for example, come out and spend a day doing landscaping at one of our sites. They eat donuts, drink coffee, spread beauty bark and get their pictures taken. The pictures go up on the website, along with effusive words of praise from our CEO. Microsoft gets congratulated, the yuppies get congratulated, the board gets congratulated. Who doesn't get congratulated? DSHS doesn't get congratulated for coordinating with us and providing a huge part of our contract dollars. Our youth counselors don't get congratulated for figuring out how to do their job, commuting 30 or 40 miles from their quasi-affordable housing into the heart of one of the nation's foremost tech centers, to make 12 dollars an hour in a full time job that requires a college degree. None of these people, who've dedicated their lives, get enough recognition. Rich dilettantes get recognition, because the nonprofit system runs on the placation and flattery of sympathetic elites. How I loving wish I could spend all day providing case management and solving problems for people, and being the face of a real radical group. Not proselytizing, just being who I am and being with who I am with, finding out about people's problems and helping them with them. The left needs to offer not slogans and ideas, but case management. Case management is such a magical tool, and it takes more thinking and problem solving than it takes money. I wish all the leftist organizations in our state could just band together and concentrate on providing the "bag of rice"--case management. God I could run it on a shoestring! gently caress. There's no point in spreading ideas beyond "we'll fight for you" any more.
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Just to clarify, and I'm not asking this to be a gently caress head - Sedan was that rant quoting something or from the heart? Again, serious question because you have a reputation for being trolly and most of your posting I've seen has been fighting with people so I haven't gotten any measure of you. I want to believe, though. Also drink chat: Angry Orchard owns really hard. Cinnful Apple is like drinking an amazing cinnamon apple pie Magres fucked around with this message at 07:47 on May 16, 2014 |
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Magres posted:Just to clarify, and I'm not asking this to be a gently caress head - Sedan was that rant quoting something or from the heart? Again, serious question because you have a reputation for being trolly and most of your posting I've seen has been fighting with people so I haven't gotten any measure of you. That's all him.
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Magres posted:Also drink chat: Angry Orchard owns really hard. Cindy Apple is like drinking an amazing cinnamon apple pie That's funny because I don't even think I would have posted that if I hadn't watched that video with 3 Woodchuck hard ciders in me.
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I've worked at mostly non-profits and I can pretty much confirm SedanChair's sentiments. Specifically this is particularly frustrating: SedanChair posted:What's so goddamned frustrating is that there's a bureaucratic structure sitting on top of it all that is always ready to take credit. They've always got board members ready to come out to a new site and turn over a spadeful of earth with a gold-painted shovel for the cameras. They have volunteer groups, project teams from Microsoft for example, come out and spend a day doing landscaping at one of our sites. They eat donuts, drink coffee, spread beauty bark and get their pictures taken. The pictures go up on the website, along with effusive words of praise from our CEO. Microsoft gets congratulated, the yuppies get congratulated, the board gets congratulated. Who doesn't get congratulated? DSHS doesn't get congratulated for coordinating with us and providing a huge part of our contract dollars. Our youth counselors don't get congratulated for figuring out how to do their job, commuting 30 or 40 miles from their quasi-affordable housing into the heart of one of the nation's foremost tech centers, to make 12 dollars an hour in a full time job that requires a college degree. None of these people, who've dedicated their lives, get enough recognition. Rich dilettantes get recognition, because the nonprofit system runs on the placation and flattery of sympathetic elites. Anyone who suggests that the current non-profit system is an adequate replacement for the retreat of the state is either loving insane/stupid or part of the grift but only due to the phenomenon described above.
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:I've worked at mostly non-profits and I can pretty much confirm SedanChair's sentiments. Specifically this is particularly frustrating: Yeah, I'm gonna back up SedanChair's sentiments as well. When I was living at the shelter I had a few encounters with the donor class and my opinion of quite a few of them is not good. Groups of them would come by on tours and it was like being a zoo exhibit and was frankly a bit dehumanizing. No one ever says anything because staff and homeless know we need the money, but there is plenty of loving grumbling behind the rich people's backs. Edit: Also, people like SedanChair really are the ones who make a difference. Having a case manager is a really big help when you are homeless and is where a great deal of the really important work gets done.
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