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Yeah i am about to need to know angular and after messing with it for a bit im nkt really excited
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Soricidus posted:i'm the blog that's not readable on phones in the year of our lord 2014 should have made his blog using the JS-Framework-Framework du jour lol 
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May 15, 2014 11:17
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someone make me a good post generator
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May 15, 2014 11:22
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:Yeah i am about to need to know angular and after messing with it for a bit im nkt really excited wrap it in some CoffeeScript, that'll make it all better
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May 15, 2014 11:31
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PIGEOTO posted:someone make me a good post generator just take your favorite poster's posts and run them through a markov text generator. i did that to good effect in a lan thread a while back
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May 15, 2014 12:56
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Soricidus posted:i'm the blog that's not readable on phones in the year of our lord 2014 so, all of them?
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May 15, 2014 14:36
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:Yeah i am about to need to know angular and after messing with it for a bit im nkt really excited angular sounds dumb use knockout instead. or don't use javascript at all, really. you don't need it.
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May 15, 2014 14:37
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but then how will i make a dynamic loading screen for my homepage without using flash
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May 15, 2014 14:40
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SVG or CSS animations
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May 15, 2014 15:04
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css is cool cause the designer has to write it instead of you and its very hard to make low performance css.
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May 15, 2014 15:06
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Max Facetime posted:oh god I hope this hasn't been posted yet http://codeofrob.com/entries/you-have-ruined-javascript.html This dude is a really bad writer
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May 15, 2014 15:47
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my company's website has a loading screen that takes like 10 seconds, and i think its partially because there's 1100 newlines at the beginning of the html file
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May 15, 2014 15:51
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MeramJert posted:just take your favorite poster's posts and run them through a markov text generator. i did that to good effect in a lan thread a while back can someone do that for me and PM it to my forums inbox?
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May 15, 2014 16:42
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vapid cutlery posted:This dude is a really bad writer yeah still funny though (if not necessarily in the way he intended)
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May 15, 2014 17:14
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css is the loving worst because it makes zero sense to anybody and the most trivial layout problems are comically difficult to solve
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May 15, 2014 19:01
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Shaggar posted:angular sounds dumb use knockout instead. or don't use javascript at all, really. you don't need it. It's not my choice
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May 15, 2014 19:18
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HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:css is the loving worst because it makes zero sense to anybody and the most trivial layout problems are comically difficult to solve remind me how people got browbeaten into using it
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May 15, 2014 19:33
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HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:css is the loving worst because it makes zero sense to anybody and the most trivial layout problems are comically difficult to solve calc() all day every day gently caress yo legacy browsers
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May 15, 2014 19:54
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PleasingFungus posted:yeah He is a nice guy, but quite special
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May 15, 2014 20:01
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PleasingFungus posted:yeah i'm so happy javascript is taking the crown of 'the most EnterpriseObjectProviderFactoryProviders in a programming language possible' it's time for the pendulum to swing back and Java again being seen as the language for getting things done and also the language for actually getting things done
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May 15, 2014 20:01
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HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:css is ftfy
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May 15, 2014 20:46
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HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:css is the loving worst because it makes zero sense to anybody and the most trivial layout problems are comically difficult to solve dehumanize yourself and use tables
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May 16, 2014 01:14
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Shaggar posted:ftfy 
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May 16, 2014 01:45
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Shaggar posted:ftfy unless ur designer is also the person who designs the dom then it's also ur problem
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May 16, 2014 01:59
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yeah. I don't give a crap who writes the html and css im just going to cram if full of razors and/or knockouts
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May 16, 2014 02:37
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Shaggar posted:yeah. I don't give a crap who writes the html and css im just going to cram if full of razors and/or knockouts same except cram the designers full of razors
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May 16, 2014 03:40
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I wish I knew why html/xml had to suck
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May 16, 2014 04:01
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xml is great and html that is xml is great.
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May 16, 2014 04:05
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gently caress them posted:I wish I knew why html/xml had to suck Because it was design by very loose committee. You had nobody knowing exactly what was coming (say, prophecy of what we use the internet like today) but lots of very fundamentally different takes on 'it' providing parts of it. most weren't ever used, in any real measure, and died off but the the core of 'the web' is a huge mishmash of different ideas that interoperate though fairly primitive group inclusions tldr; nobody really designed the internet as it is today; it just is a collection of what eveolved through the early years of foundational contributions
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May 16, 2014 05:08
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Sniep posted:tldr; nobody really designed the internet as it is today; it just is a collection of what eveolved through the early years of foundational contributions
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May 16, 2014 08:12
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How do I shot web? Lol
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May 16, 2014 08:46
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gently caress them posted:I wish I knew why html/xml had to suck "if we build a standard they will come" there are two major types of standards implementation first, standard later, which serves to catalogue what is happening already. the protocol is often weird, broken, but most people can get it to work standard first, implementation later. which serves to make some designer feel smug, and usually is abandoned as the standard is a work of art unsullied by things like 'working code'
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May 16, 2014 16:20
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What exactly sucks about HTML/XML? Can we have some examples here?
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May 16, 2014 16:32
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xml namespaces xml schema doctypes and their associated poo poo that nobody uses (external entities etc) are security hazards fuzziness of the information model (is whitespace significant or not? for which nodes?) the fact that it was designed to mark up text but is being used for storing general hierarchical poo poo arbitrary distinctions between child nodes and attributes in practical usages (this is indefensible, don't try to defend it) does not nest nicely (can't quote XML inside XML without some discomfort) the need to be processed character-by-character because of the lack of length information is a problem for high-throughput applications allows encodings other than UTF-8. Which encodings are supported is implementation specific. typical design by committee clusterfuck iow but unfortunately it's everywhere and not going away
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May 16, 2014 16:38
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json is problematic in some ways (no widely used schema standards, no comments, all numbers are floating point) but it's a gently caress of a lot better than XML for machine-to-machine appplications
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May 16, 2014 16:38
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Mr Dog posted:json is problematic in some ways (no widely used schema standards, no comments, all numbers are floating point) but it's a gently caress of a lot better than XML for machine-to-machine appplications you are not just wrong, your opinion is the inverse of the correct one. json is very easy for humans to read and edit, but its lack of standards-conformant implementations and total lack of validation make it grossly unsuitable to machine<=>machine communication
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May 16, 2014 16:42
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oh cool your json service emits date literals but my language's client library is strictly conforming to crockford
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May 16, 2014 16:44
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sweet another api that returns nested arrays with an implicit structural relationship to another element, this will never get parsed wrong
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tef posted:"if we build a standard they will come" And then there's IMAP.
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using xml for machine communication often feels like playing in a sandbox. i can do anything but it is always more effort than it shoulda been, and nothing is ever reusable using json is more like playing in the litterbox. it seems like xml's sand at first, but gee there are a lot of fuckin turds in here
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