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revmoo posted:Actually I think what you just said perfectly illustrates the point I was trying to make. but that's the exact opposite of your claim that if you succeeded you used the right tool?
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May 15, 2014 18:48
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This thread has a lot of wrong tools.
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May 15, 2014 18:51
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Bongo Bill posted:This thread has a lot of wrong tools. Nice!
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May 15, 2014 19:11
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revmoo posted:Actually I think what you just said perfectly illustrates the point I was trying to make. Which I'm gathering now is that tools don't matter? Cool, I'll just keep using this hammer for everything then.
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May 15, 2014 19:15
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Plorkyeran posted:but that's the exact opposite of your claim that if you succeeded you used the right tool? One can succeed in the debate despite the use of the wrong argument
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May 15, 2014 19:39
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Man you guys are spending 2+ pages on nitpicking revmoo's words when you could have gotten the gist of it from his original post.
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May 15, 2014 20:29
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revmoo posted:I'm simply pointing out that there are often non-technical reasons to use one tool over the other, even if that tool in question might be deemed "less good" by outside observers. Steve French posted:Which I'm gathering now is that tools don't matter? Cool, I'll just keep using this hammer for everything then. It's a wonder that there are any strawmen left in the world after this thread.
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May 15, 2014 20:39
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Bongo Bill posted:This thread has a lot of wrong tools. 
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May 15, 2014 20:56
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Strong Sauce posted:Man you guys are spending 2+ pages on nitpicking revmoo's words when you could have gotten the gist of it from his original post. I am not nitpicking his words, and I did get the gist of it from his original post, and I think he is wrong. The fact that there may be non-technical reasons to use a particular tool is not a blanket excuse for any use of a lovely tool.
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Bongo Bill posted:This thread has a lot of wrong tools.
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May 15, 2014 21:25
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Sneaking Mission posted:What is the best number of lines to have? I don't know, but it certainly isn't 19k. I decided to actually open it today and look around, and it's also all one class.
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May 15, 2014 21:58
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May 15, 2014 22:21
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This thread is making me cry. In the same way that onions make me cry.
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May 15, 2014 22:49
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Zombywuf posted:So long as I don't have to maintain, use, listen to Node.js devs claim they invented callbacks or crawl the resulting web of crap I'm cool with this. So far I have been very lucky, and all of the people I meet using node have been pretty cool. I only encounter the zealots on internet comments.
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May 16, 2014 00:21
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tef posted:I only encounter the zealots on internet comments. For me, this is true for almost all zealotry. Code-related or not.
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May 16, 2014 00:25
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Hey guys, today I realized that JavaScript is not good, but is in fact bad! We need to replace it with
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Suspicious Dish posted:Hey guys, today I realized that JavaScript is not good, but is in fact bad! We need to replace it with Coldfusion
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May 16, 2014 01:53
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Suspicious Dish posted:Hey guys, today I realized that JavaScript is not good, but is in fact bad! We need to replace it with Malbolge
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May 16, 2014 02:08
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May 16, 2014 02:21
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Everyone go back to using flash
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May 16, 2014 02:28
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Ithaqua posted:Malbolge Not even the language, the actual Malebolge
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May 16, 2014 02:29
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May 16, 2014 02:30
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Suspicious Dish posted:Hey guys, today I realized that JavaScript is not good, but is in fact bad! We need to replace it with Node.js?
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It's cool to write scripts in Node because it's really easy to write asynchronous or event-based code in it (for, like, a file watcher), Node is a fairly small runtime and easy to install, and NPM/Node modules don't have the dependency issues that Ruby or Python do (i.e. no virtual environments or Bundler). Sometimes it's not cool to write scripts in Node because you have to install Node and JavaScript is not a well-made language. I really don't think the argument goes any deeper than that 
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I think the original point was that there's choosing a language you know that might not be the best suited for the job because you know you'll finish it quicker that way, and then there's shoehorning a language/platform not at all suited to embedded systems in a fashion that you cut out a portion of the language's features and set it up so that varying amounts of whitespace can create timing differences.
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May 16, 2014 05:05
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Suspicious Dish posted:Hey guys, today I realized that JavaScript is not good, but is in fact bad! We need to replace it with
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I had to install Node.js at work today, because ipython for some reason needs it to turn its files into static html. It was either that or a documentation generator that required pywin32, because spitting out html files really needs specific parts of the Windows API. I have to hope there's a better way, or at least some reason why this is necessary.
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abraham linksys posted:I really don't think the argument goes any deeper than that But is node appropriate for all projects, or not appropriate for any projects? WHICH!?!
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revmoo posted:You know, I don't actually think you are, you just don't understand what I'm saying. Let's adjust your comment to reflect what I said: Isn't that the justification used for every lovely piece of scientific code in existence? "It did what I wanted it to do within the required timeframe, nothing else matters" is a terrible way to design anything but a one-off script.
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May 16, 2014 08:00
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Otto Skorzeny posted:Not even the language, the actual Malebolge Too late.
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abraham linksys posted:It's cool to write scripts in Node because it's really easy to write asynchronous or event-based code in it And this is what I was talking about.
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ohgodwhat posted:I had to install Node.js at work today, because ipython for some reason needs it to turn its files into static html. It was either that or a documentation generator that required pywin32, because spitting out html files really needs specific parts of the Windows API. Can't you hook up something like Jinja2?
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QuarkJets posted:Isn't that the justification used for every lovely piece of scientific code in existence? "It did what I wanted it to do within the required timeframe, nothing else matters" is a terrible way to design anything but a one-off script. The objective of scientific code isn't to produce reproducible, comprehensible, robust data processing applications, it's to Get Published, which terrible one-offs perfectly facilitate. This is a much larger problem within the scientific community than "oh scientists are just lazy."
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Actual codecode:"It makes it easier to read" We automatically minify. Also note the border declaration No it doesn't I can't read the diff anymore I hate you
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quote:It's cool to write scripts in Node because it's really easy to write asynchronous or event-based code in it When all you have is screws, every tool becomes a screwdriver. (You can write asynchronous code in a wide variety of languages and frameworks; see ASP MVC async controllers)
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I think the emphasis in that quote was on the word "easy" but continue
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o.m. 94 posted:Actual code Graphic designers are the worst.
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QuarkJets posted:Isn't that the justification used for every lovely piece of scientific code in existence? "It did what I wanted it to do within the required timeframe, nothing else matters" is a terrible way to design anything but a one-off script. A large portion of scientific code is a one-off script.
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