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Rush posted:RUSH: Yeah. That's the thing. They have always been radicals, genuine radicals, and it was Obama's election that caused them to surface and put it on open display. And you've got a good point about not letting Dingy off the hook. And I was only joking anyway. The reason I was joking is because he is over the edge on this Koch brothers stuff. I mean, even when you go look at a list of donors, the Koch brothers are 59 behind unions and there all kinds of people that give far more money than the Koch brothers do. And yet they are responsible for global warming. They single-handedly are doing whatever Dingy Harry thinks is wrong. Gosh, I wonder what might be wrong with two dudes ranking even that high in a list all by themselves that includes "unions", a generalized term for a group of millions of people.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:A bit further back in this thread I mentioned that the conservative persecution complex these days looks and sounds a lot like a Masochist begging to be abused some more. Well... 2. Obi-Wan didn't say that. 3. That isn't even the verbatim line. That felt good.
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Also that "only 59" ranking is for individual contributions and does not include the millions spent through Americans for Prosperity and the dozen other Koch groups. They were the #2 spender in the 2012 election behind American Crossroads.
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Excuse me sir those were funds spent on clearly non-political public service announcements, not campaigns.
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A Big Fat Idiot posted:And I believe... When I heard that Barack Obama plans to live in Washington after his term of office expires -- if it does (ahem) -- that told me a lot. No president stays in town. They all decamp. They all leave. They go back somewhere. But Obama is gonna stay there, and there's one reason why. Ooh, I think I know this one! Is it because he has school-aged children who could use the stability and who probably consider Washington, D.C. their home n-- A Big Fat Idiot posted:He's not going to sit quietly by... Let's say there's a Republican elected president. --oh. That...seems fantastically stupid. Does Rush think that there wouldn't be any journalists wherever else the Obamas chose to go? Or does he simply want to conjure up the image of former President Obama crashing the inauguration of his (glorious manly conservative) successor to shout "DEAR PRESIDENT CRUZ: BOTH YOU AND VICE-PRESIDENT PALIN ARE STUPID STINKY FARTBUTTS. THAT IS ALL"? Come to think of it, I'm a bit surprised he's not darkly implying that Obama will refuse to leave and declare himself God-Emperor of the Thousand-Year Socialist Reich. Or would that be stepping on Glenn Beck's shtick?
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He's right though, HERO PRESIDENT George Bush decamped and now he can't even get a shoutout hashtag in his own party. There's no other explanation.
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Glenn Beck tapping into the potent market of the American Martyr complex. This mindset mixed with the desperation of poverty makes a great environment for recruiting suicide bombers. 'It's a miracle! I can see my purpose now!'
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Everyone knows that if jackbooted thugs actually busted down Glen Back's door in the middle of the night he's collapse into a quivering pile of tears and offer to say anything they want him to on his show.
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VitalSigns posted:Everyone knows that if jackbooted thugs actually busted down Glen Back's door in the middle of the night he's collapse into a quivering pile of tears and offer to say anything they want him to on his show. Yeah he's just in it for the money. He either doesn't know or doesn't care that he is playing with ideological fire.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:A bit further back in this thread I mentioned that the conservative persecution complex these days looks and sounds a lot like a Masochist begging to be abused some more. Well... It's been a while since I was in DC, but IIRC the Lincoln Memorial and especially the reflecting pool is usually covered in geese poop, so for him to claim that augurs something is...dumb.
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http://www.wtam.com/onair/mike-trivisonno-2339/was-michael-sams-draft-day-kiss-12358379/ Local right wing blowhard is insisting that the Michael Sam kiss was staged today, and even said that him being gay was all an act to get more money. ... Because you know...That sounds like something fun for a straight person to pretend to be.
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SatansOnion posted:Come to think of it, I'm a bit surprised he's not darkly implying that Obama will refuse to leave and declare himself God-Emperor of the Thousand-Year Socialist Reich. Or would that be stepping on Glenn Beck's shtick? Rush Limbaugh posted:Barack Obama plans to live in Washington after his term of office expires -- if it does (ahem) Hell, also from today's program here is Limbaugh using another common freeper talking point: liberals are the real racists 
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McDowell posted:Yeah he's just in it for the money. He either doesn't know or doesn't care that he is playing with ideological fire. I'm pretty sure he actually believes all the insanity he spouts. I used to listen to him a lot on AM radio and, 10 years ago, he wasn't anywhere near as bad as he is now. As he got more famous he also got crazier. Ten years ago he actually did a lot of comedy segments that were genuinely funny. He would also criticize conservatives if they did things he didn't agree with (he spent weeks bitching about how terrible the PATRIOT Act was) and was perfectly willing to dig at Bush from time to time. Thing is, there was a point nearing the end of Bush's presidency where poo poo just switched. Thinking back it started around the time that Kerry failed to get elected. His humor slowly quit being funny because it was less "let's tell a joke" and more "let's prove how stupid liberals are then laugh about it." Which, of course, isn't funny as purely ideological humor isn't. He also ripped on poor people, Hispanics, and blacks almost exclusively for entire segments sometimes. It got continually more deplorable. That was about the time he started making these hints of a gigantic liberal conspiracy that was trying to destroy conservatism out of malice. He also spent like a week just gloating about Kerry losing the election. He even called it Gloat Fest and would literally just laugh into the microphone for minutes at a time. (as an aside, this is around the time I quit taking him seriously and just watched the carnage...like people say, admire the poop, discuss the poop, do not touch the poop...Glenn Beck was poop so I quit touching) His increasing fame just fed into his insanity. More people were listening so of course what he was saying was right. Thing is, he got to the point where he was so insane that Fox News cancelled his show. Meanwhile his ratings tanked and he spent much of his time in front of the chalkboard spouting conspiracy theories so insane that even Fox News viewers wouldn't believe them. He used this as "proof" that he was speaking truths so harsh that people couldn't face them. Now he mostly vomits insanity all over his website and a Facebook feed that I subscribe to because it's unintentionally hilarious. This is a guy that posted a picture of himself, a middle aged, pudgy white guy, holding a claymore because he literally believes he's a modern William Wallace, fighting for freedom and standing up to the oppressors.
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kik2dagroin posted:He's a bit more subtle, yeah, but saying this will set off a freeper-like person into believing the whole dictator for life thing. They're making noise for the sake of making noise and saying crazy poo poo, but if you actually call them on it they'll just back down like they cowards they are.
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beatlegs posted:What is he babbling about? Seriously I get a mental illness vibe off him. Just delusional nonsense. When he lost all of his major corporate sponsorship and the FOX management realized that  wasn't in on the act, he was actually as crazy as the act they shitcanned him. He is indeed mentally ill, unlike the people still at FOX who are just paid actors.
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kik2dagroin posted:The caller here is an elderly lady whom sounded honestly infuriated over the topic at hand Which "victory in the War on Terror" is he talking about here? The dedication of the museum? Killing Osama? It sounds like he's talking about September 11 itself, which would be another hilarious malapropism akin to, "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking of new ways to harm our country and our people.. and neither do we." But this was in a statement issued by someone else so I don't even know.
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McDowell posted:Yeah he's just in it for the money. He either doesn't know or doesn't care that he is playing with ideological fire. I think he knows. Occasionally you'll find him backing down from some controversial issue he's created or straight up just ignoring others.
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kik2dagroin posted:
I remember a few people I knew would sometimes bring up that Bush had the power to remain in office for two more years if the need arose and they always made it sound like he would do it. It's so weird seeing the roles reversed.
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Edit: Oops that was Rush who was funny in the past, not Beck. This is what I get for skimming the thread at 1 AM. 
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Can I get some help with some typical Right Wing Talking points my dad has been using? Casually mentioning in conversation with my dad because he won't stop loving watching Neil Cavuto. re: Fast Food Workers going on strike. "It's not supposed to be a full time job! It's supposed to be incentive to move on to another job" I mentioned something about how that's really not the case, how people really can't afford to live on that type of salary, and it was met with shrugged shoulders. re: College Loans Me: "Dad, I think a good thing would be a college loan forgiveness program. It seems a lot of people my age are having to deal with them. Perhaps it would help the economy out a bit?" Dad: "Why should we have to pay more in taxes in order to bail out students? I mean it was Obama's fault! He made it so that the Federal Government could be the only ones to give loans to college students. Then the colleges jacked up the rates of inflation. You don't get it." It's just amazingly stubborn. Cavuto and his Fox Business pals are such poo poo heels. I've had ecnomomics classes in high school and college taught by very good professors (some with a right wing approach, some with a left wing approach). I don't feel like Cavuto/FBN are at any level "Smart" in the world of economics. They just seemed to be more in the business of Fox News's Typical brand of bullshit this time itself marketed towards the Business crowd. e: He also kind of implied that it's Obama who is behind the push to increase the minimum wage. Implying a conspiracy of some sort. FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 07:46 on May 16, 2014 |
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OxySnake posted:I've heard the same thing. I work with a guy who is very liberal and he is steadfast that back when he covered Kansas City Royal games and when he began his political show he was actually really funny. But, as he grew famous he began to believe more and more of the nonsense he spews daily. I suspect this is backwards. I think it is more likely that he became more famous by becoming more crazy. Pandering to extremists is a well-known path out of obscurity. The difference between the modern panderers and the ones of the past is that, in the past, the extremists were actually on the fringe. Today, the extreme right has somehow managed to move the centerline so far that they have become the core group in conservative politics. Or, they've at least become the loudest group in conservative politics.
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FuzzySkinner posted:"It's not supposed to be a full time job! It's supposed to be incentive to move on to another job"
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I got this from a coworker all the time. "All the new jobs are low-wage service jobs. Obama lied." I never had a great answer, but I did always come back with this: "What do you think the POTUS can do about corporations keeping record profits and record executive bonuses while having the lowest EFFECTIVE tax rate in over 40 years, while workers' wages and benefits are now LOWER than they were in 40 years? That's the Free Market, lack of regulation, and corporate welfare at work. Corps and the rich have it better than ever, and there's tons of money just sitting around waiting to be used in attack ads to make laws even better for corps and the wealthy. Meanwhile, worker productivity is up by a huge amount yet workers can't even get jobs they can live on. How, again, do you blame this on the President?" It doesn't work, but it's the best I've got. P.S. - If I am wrong about anything here, please correct me. Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 08:01 on May 16, 2014 |
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Star Man posted:
Back in the 90's I knew people who would believe whatever you told them as long as it reflected badly on Bill Clinton- all the Clinton Death List conspiracy poo poo and so on- and so one of the things I remember hearing about was the FEMA concentration camps Clinton and the UN were going to put us in (ironic, since it was Ollie North's idea in REX-84 originally). Years later, during the Bush administration, I had lefty friends who were convinced they were all going to FEMA camps, and weren't interested in hearing that it'd previously been right-wingers who were ranting and raving about them. And nowadays, of course... Pope Guilty fucked around with this message at 18:40 on May 16, 2014 |
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Centripetal Horse posted:I suspect this is backwards. I think it is more likely that he became more famous by becoming more crazy. Pandering to extremists is a well-known path out of obscurity. The difference between the modern panderers and the ones of the past is that, in the past, the extremists were actually on the fringe. Today, the extreme right has somehow managed to move the centerline so far that they have become the core group in conservative politics. Or, they've at least become the loudest group in conservative politics. In Beck's case I just don't think that's it. While it's certainly true that right wing radio has gotten more insane over the years if you look at it it's actually a measured, deliberate, slow increase in crazy that they put very hard limits on. It's why I argue that Rush is actually extremely intelligent because if you look at his entire career it's always been knowing exactly where the Line To Not Be Crossed is. He walks right up to it, dance around, shakes his fat rear end all over it, and acts like he's going to accidentally fall over it before stomping on his side and going "hahahaaaaaaa, nope." If the line moves he dances along with it and acts like it's his choice that the line is moving. Hannity stumbles over it pretty regularly and acts like it's YOUR drat fault for drawing it in the first place. O'Reilly just sits on the porch bitching about kids these days like the cranky old rear end that he is. Beck's response to the line was a mix of "no, gently caress YOU, dad!" and "THIS LINE IS A LIBERAL CONSPIRACY TO KEEP CONSERVATIVES SILENT" that ended in a majestic flying leap over it. He then ran back to it, poo poo on it, and ran around on the other side screaming "you can't control me, it's all a liberal conspiracy!" while the other guys nervously stood around trying to figure out how to get rid of him. Beck was convenient because he's an utter loser that turned himself around and got famous. He's a guy that was literally a drug-addled alcoholic that cleaned himself up, found God, and worked from the absolute bottom rung of the radio food chain. Even on his show, later on, he'd talk about it and be all "yeah, if you put forth effort you can get better, I used to suck. I still pretty much suck but, you know, less now." Which was a weird departure from the other hosts; they were basically saying "accept your place in the world and don't complain." Beck was saying "well, you know, you have to like try...you might fail but never trying is not acceptable. I tried and look what happened!" It was a convenient piece of narrative for the right wing that the other hosts weren't saying and didn't seem willing to. Next thing we know he's drawing a visual representation of paranoid schizophrenia on a chalk board on national television.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:In Beck's case I just don't think that's it. While it's certainly true that right wing radio has gotten more insane over the years if you look at it it's actually a measured, deliberate, slow increase in crazy that they put very hard limits on. It's why I argue that Rush is actually extremely intelligent because if you look at his entire career it's always been knowing exactly where the Line To Not Be Crossed is. He walks right up to it, dance around, shakes his fat rear end all over it, and acts like he's going to accidentally fall over it before stomping on his side and going "hahahaaaaaaa, nope." If the line moves he dances along with it and acts like it's his choice that the line is moving. Hannity stumbles over it pretty regularly and acts like it's YOUR drat fault for drawing it in the first place. O'Reilly just sits on the porch bitching about kids these days like the cranky old rear end that he is. I dunno, I think Rush stepped over too far during the Sandra Fluke thing. It is somehow impressive that it took him this long to finally cross over "the line", but he did and it cost him a LOT of sponsors.
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skaboomizzy posted:I dunno, I think Rush stepped over too far during the Sandra Fluke thing. It is somehow impressive that it took him this long to finally cross over "the line", but he did and it cost him a LOT of sponsors. I haven't listened to Rush in years and don't know about the Sandra Fluke thing. What was it all about?
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I haven't listened to Rush in years and don't know about the Sandra Fluke thing. What was it all about? She testified to congress or somewhere that employers should include birth control in their insurance for their employees. Druggie called her a slut.
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oops, wrong blowhard. But this is fun reading: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh quote:Greetings, conversationalists across the fruited plain, this is Rush Limbaugh, the most dangerous man in America, with the largest hypothalamus in North America, serving humanity simply by opening my mouth, destined for my own wing in the Museum of Broadcasting, executing everything I do flawlessly with zero mistakes, doing this show with half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair because I have talent on loan from . . . God. Rush Limbaugh. A man. A legend. A way of life. quote:What does it say about the college co-ed Sandra Fluke, who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex, what does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute. She wants to be paid to have sex. She's having so much sex she can't afford the contraception. She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex. What does that make us? We're the pimps. (interruption) The johns? We would be the johns? No! We're not the johns. (interruption) Yeah, that's right. Pimp's not the right word. Okay, so she's not a slut. She's "round heeled". I take it back. anonumos fucked around with this message at 11:02 on May 16, 2014 |
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Dr. Faustus posted:I got this from a coworker all the time. "All the new jobs are low-wage service jobs. Obama lied." That's honestly a great rebuttal. The POTUS can and tried to do more, to be honest, but it should work as it targets a number of rightie love letters.
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happyhippy posted:She testified to congress or somewhere that employers should include birth control in their insurance for their employees. Oh right, I remember that whole fiasco, I just forgot the name. I think Rush thought he was on the proper side of the line on that one as some other right wing nuts were also going bonkers about the whole thing. The aftermath, if I remember correctly, was the right standing around going "well gently caress, we picked a stupid fight, now what?" and casually forgetting the whole thing even existed.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:In Beck's case I just don't think that's it. While it's certainly true that right wing radio has gotten more insane over the years if you look at it it's actually a measured, deliberate, slow increase in crazy that they put very hard limits on. It's why I argue that Rush is actually extremely intelligent because if you look at his entire career it's always been knowing exactly where the Line To Not Be Crossed is. He walks right up to it, dance around, shakes his fat rear end all over it, and acts like he's going to accidentally fall over it before stomping on his side and going "hahahaaaaaaa, nope." If the line moves he dances along with it and acts like it's his choice that the line is moving. Hannity stumbles over it pretty regularly and acts like it's YOUR drat fault for drawing it in the first place. O'Reilly just sits on the porch bitching about kids these days like the cranky old rear end that he is. Hmmm, I dunno. poo poo like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmXjxgy6MUo and this.. http://www.salon.com/2014/01/22/glenn_beck_says_bill_nyes_fight_against_creationism_is_like_the_catholic_churchs_war_on_galileo/ ...pretty much prove homeboy be mad trollin'. And stuff like this: http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/259997/speedreads-glenn-beck-and-tucker-carlson-warn-conservatives-about-bundy-ranch-dispute ..seem to show that he knows when his bullshit could have some really dire consequences.
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Pope Guilty posted:I remember a few people I knew would sometimes bring up that Bush had the power to remain in office for two more years if the need arose and they always made it sound like he would do it. It's so weird seeing the roles reversed. Yeah, the extremely paranoid on both sides of the aisle sort of loop back around and meet in a cacophony of crazy.
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Beck and Alex Jones know exactly what they're doing. If they were true believers, they'd be out there doing stuff instead of selling bullshit on their websites and getting rich talking on the radio a few hours a day. Beck is ridiculously wealthy because of all this. http://www.forbes.com/profile/glenn-beck/ And Jones has always had money, although he's been making a killing since the 11th. Dude was just another local TV guy talking about satanists in the government until Loose Change hit the scene.
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Sir Tonk posted:Beck and Alex Jones know exactly what they're doing. If they were true believers, they'd be out there doing stuff instead of selling bullshit on their websites and getting rich talking on the radio a few hours a day. Beck is ridiculously wealthy because of all this. Alex Jones is absolutely a true believer. He is paranoid and crazy, but it is not an act. Jones does get out there and do stuff. It's crazy stuff, but still. I've been aware of him for at least fifteen years, and he is every bit the nutty activist he presents himself as. He may be spending a little less time stalking secret societies, these days, but he has a lot on his plate.
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Centripetal Horse posted:Alex Jones is absolutely a true believer. He is paranoid and crazy, but it is not an act. Jones does get out there and do stuff. It's crazy stuff, but still. I've been aware of him for at least fifteen years, and he is every bit the nutty activist he presents himself as. He may be spending a little less time stalking secret societies, these days, but he has a lot on his plate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4629k9WazE Jones is a loving huckster. I think he believes the very basics, that there's corruption and overreach in government. Period. The rest of it is all about the money.
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happyhippy posted:She testified to congress or somewhere that employers should include birth control in their insurance for their employees. More specifically, she was testifying about non-birth-control uses for birth control pills. And it wasn't just Rush, it was drat near the entire right wing media.
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