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TheFuzzyLumpkin
Sep 15, 2003

But you are a person, and I can't say I'm awfully fond of that.
I wouldn't define giving somebody a bong instead of a computer "malicious" in any sense of the word.

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Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Not getting high? Turn it off and on again.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug
Wait do people actually drug test it people that are non gov? I have a feeling if they did 50% of IT would be out of work tomorrow.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Dilbert As gently caress posted:

Wait do people actually drug test it people that are non gov? I have a feeling if they did 50% of IT would be out of work tomorrow.
I'm at a bank on a contract and they had me tested. I haven't been tested for any city/county government work. I can't remember if I got tested when I worked for the VA or not, but I don't think I did.

nexxai
Jul 17, 2002

quack quack bjork
Fun Shoe

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:

I am permitted to work a maximum of 200 days unless my contract is renegotiated.

My boss is super sad and we're going to negotiate some part time project work at a higher rate if I have time once I start the new place.
Just because you are "permitted to work" does not mean you "get paid for the equivalent of 250 working days and only work 200".

Don't forget that 104 days a year are weekend days, and there are 10 or 11 stat holidays a year in Canada, bringing your total to ~115 days off per year for any employment. Leaving 50 days unaccounted for. You should also find out if you're expected to be working longer work days as more and more places are moving to longer days to make shorter weeks.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

Dilbert As gently caress posted:

Wait do people actually drug test it people that are non gov? I have a feeling if they did 50% of IT would be out of work tomorrow.

It's incredibly common in the US, and the larger the company the more likely it is. Some will even require that outside consultants attached to their projects have a clean test on record, which I would imagine is why my old small-shop consulting firm required it.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug
Goon app hosed up

stubblyhead posted:

It's incredibly common in the US, and the larger the company the more likely it is. Some will even require that outside consultants attached to their projects have a clean test on record, which I would imagine is why my old small-shop consulting firm required it.

I'm in the us the only time I've heard different from " it's your private life don't let it affect your work" is at my latest when someone found heroin in the bathroom. I still have yet to have a drug test....

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

We get random drug tests every year. We get drug tested before employment too and I just work for a company with under 500 people.

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


In the US and I've always had a pre-employment drug test with the threat of random drug tests after that (but have never seen one of those happen).

Nerdrock
Jan 31, 2006

I had to take a drug test before I went to work for my last place. It may be semi related to the fact it was a factory in the US with a handful of machines that could mangle you.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

nexxai posted:

Just because you are "permitted to work" does not mean you "get paid for the equivalent of 250 working days and only work 200".

Don't forget that 104 days a year are weekend days, and there are 10 or 11 stat holidays a year in Canada, bringing your total to ~115 days off per year for any employment. Leaving 50 days unaccounted for. You should also find out if you're expected to be working longer work days as more and more places are moving to longer days to make shorter weeks.

Eugh I'll have to check the numbers, I probably typed something out wrong.

I am being paid for a set humber of hours, so it's not that they're trying to get me to work extra hours for the same pay.

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

Dilbert As gently caress posted:

Goon app hosed up


I'm in the us the only time I've heard different from " it's your private life don't let it affect your work" is at my latest when someone found heroin in the bathroom. I still have yet to have a drug test....

I work for a very large health care company and I know that everyone at corporate where I work has been drug tested and everyone at the 50+ hospitals nationwide has.

We are also a 7th Day Adventist company.

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.
The drug testing is mostly an insurance-mandated thing, plus a drug test is usually required right after an accident so that any workman's compensation claims can be completely denied in the event that an accident does occur and it can be determined that the employee was under the influence.

A friend of mine's nephew was working on a tar crew on base and basically fell into hot tar and was completely hosed up. He was looking at a year minimum to recover, but because it was an accident Workman's Comp was going to cover the entire cost of his medical care. And then they found traces of marijuana in his system. That was more than enough for Workman's Comp to tell him to piss off and deny any coverage, even while he was still on a ventilator and no one was even sure he was going to live. He naturally lost his job as well, and that cost him his employer's insurance as well. If he's lucky he might be able to go back to work in another five to ten years, but as it stands right now his family can't afford the physical therapy sessions, and they are drowning in debt just from the initial accident, let alone the week of medical care in the ICU. Pretty sure the hospital just got him stabilized and in no threat of dying before they kicked him out. Have to talk to my friend to see what's happened since then.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


nexxai posted:

Just because you are "permitted to work" does not mean you "get paid for the equivalent of 250 working days and only work 200".

Don't forget that 104 days a year are weekend days, and there are 10 or 11 stat holidays a year in Canada, bringing your total to ~115 days off per year for any employment. Leaving 50 days unaccounted for. You should also find out if you're expected to be working longer work days as more and more places are moving to longer days to make shorter weeks.

It does when you have 60 days of PTO (12 weeks). His contract basically says he's required to take at least 10 of those 12 weeks. It's all accounted for.

Edit: It is PTO and not unpaid vacation, right?

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

Last year, I worked ~ 2400 hours. In the next year, I will work 1500 hours. For this work, I will make about 2.3 times what I made last year.

I have to work a set number of days, and my time is being accounted for on an hourly basis. I cannot work more than that set number of hours according to my contract.

The place I am working for can renegotiate the number of hours if we both agree.

ZetsurinPower
Dec 14, 2003

I looooove leftovers!
I would actually gladly take a job with 12 weeks of annual vacation even if it was unpaid. I'd do seasonal work at resorts in the Bahamas or something or just save money then travel. Jesus, is this a real thing? Tell me how to do this

aaronp
Jul 7, 2002

When I worked in Wisconsin I had to take drug tests for any job I had that was a manager level or higher. Now that I'm in San Francisco, I've not ever heard "drug test" mentioned once.

Loten
Dec 8, 2005


I work at a mining/oil and gas company in Australia and had to take a drug test to get the job and apparently can be randomly tested at any time.

That said, I haven't heard of anyone in corporate being tested, it's more of an on-site thing, but you never know.

Paladine_PSoT
Jan 2, 2010

If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

Yeah, in my experience "random drug testing" means "if we want to fire your rear end we'll make you pee in a cup and hope we can fire you based on the results". There's the accident thing Daylen mentioned, too. I've also noticed it's exactly the opposite of this:

aaronp posted:

When I worked in Wisconsin I had to take drug tests for any job I had that was a manager level or higher.

The higher I've gone on the ladder the fewer tests there have been. This may be a west coast thing, though.

KennyTheFish
Jan 13, 2004
Some of the mines in Western Australia will alcohol and drug test randomly at the gate as people arrive for a shift. The masking agent trade is as big as the drug trade in these towns.

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob
I do local government work and I had to be tested as a condition of employment. I'm not sure if they can randomly re-test, I'm guessing the unions would pitch a fit. I don't use any, so it doesn't make much difference to me, but it always seemed a bit silly to me.

Feral Bueller
Apr 23, 2004

Fun is important.
Nap Ghost

ZetsurinPower posted:

I would actually gladly take a job with 12 weeks of annual vacation even if it was unpaid. I'd do seasonal work at resorts in the Bahamas or something or just save money then travel. Jesus, is this a real thing? Tell me how to do this

http://bs.theitjob.com/

There was someone in the job thread about 4-5 years back that was working in the Bahamas and was giving up his gig to travel. I'm sure if you ask around SH/SC enough, they will surface.

Feral Bueller fucked around with this message at 15:16 on May 16, 2014

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
So a ticket came in....

ticket posted:

Hello,


My computer has become a ticking piece-of-poo poo time bomb. At random intervals it
becomes un-usable and I can hear loud clicking coming from the bowels of it's casing.


I can no longer:
- Run more than 6 torrents at a time
- Stream 4 windows of pornography (soft -- which as I understand it is not prohibited
by corporate policies)
- Listen to Dark Side of the Moon as it is meant to be listened to (that is to say as
one big non stop album)


As well, it sometimes cuts into to my work productivity.


Can we proceed to a change of my disk please. As well, I dearly want to feel like I
have moved into the new century by using technology that is now over 10 years old.
That is to say; please get me a SSD, even if it's capacity is smaller. I currently
have
a 750GB drive with 300GB being used. I'm fairly certain I could get by with a 250GB.


Thanks,
[name redacted]

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Thank God no one here knows what an SSD is.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug
does he wear a 3 wolf shirt as well?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

HonorableTB posted:

So a ticket came in....

quote:

As well, I dearly want to feel like I have moved into the new century by using technology that is now over 10 years old.
I think you should honor this request.

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!

HonorableTB posted:

So a ticket came in....

That sounds like a whole lot of actionable offenses to me.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

pienipple posted:

That sounds like a whole lot of actionable offenses to me.

Sounded like a lot of sarcasm to me, but he still wants a new PC.

blackswordca
Apr 25, 2010

Just 'cause you pour syrup on something doesn't make it pancakes!
so a bunch of phone calls came in.

Users are having issues accessing their personal folders. Looks like the Sr tech is migrating them to the new file server right now.

:cripes:

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Don't get involved, otherwise that's entrapment. Just blind transfer their calls to him.

pr0digal
Sep 12, 2008

Alan Rickman Overdrive

GreenNight posted:

Sounded like a lot of sarcasm to me, but he still wants a new PC.

Sarcasm or not forward it along to his supervisor. Teach him to mess with IT :unsmigghh:

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug

blackswordca posted:

so a bunch of phone calls came in.

Users are having issues accessing their personal folders. Looks like the Sr tech is migrating them to the new file server right now.

:cripes:

Sounds like something that happened at work this week, someone decided to, out of the blue, enable folder redirection on a GPO.

Guess what happened.

Kachunkachunk
Jun 6, 2011
I like that sarcasm, heh. He must be very comfortable with his employment to leave a pretty hard papertrail of no-nos like that.

wintermuteCF
Dec 9, 2006

LIEK HAI2U!

HonorableTB posted:

So a ticket came in....

When I was working desktop I would be more inclined to grant this request than any jackass who 'broke' his laptop in hopes of getting something new.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

pr0digal posted:

Sarcasm or not forward it along to his supervisor. Teach him to mess with IT :unsmigghh:

It sounds like a joke to me, something to brighten the IT guys' day. Probably...

pr0digal
Sep 12, 2008

Alan Rickman Overdrive

Che Delilas posted:

It sounds like a joke to me, something to brighten the IT guys' day. Probably...

That's just the user's plan. It's all a joke see.

He can really run 7 torrents at the same time.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

pr0digal posted:

That's just the user's plan. It's all a joke see.

He can really run 7 torrents at the same time.

Only if you switch to still-image pornography.

ZetsurinPower
Dec 14, 2003

I looooove leftovers!

Sarcasmatron posted:

http://bs.theitjob.com/

There was someone in the job thread about 4-5 years back that was working in the Bahamas and was giving up his gig to travel. I'm sure if you ask around SH/SC enough, they will surface.

Sorry I guess I worded that confusingly. I meant work an IT gig the majority of the year, then during my 12 weeks vacation I would gently caress off to god knows where and work at a resort or restaurant or just travel whatever.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy
A ticket came in: "Can we get Christ..."

They wanted Christiano to come do some maintenance and Spiceworks made a fortunate truncation. Honestly we need Christ to save this place right about now.

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Alighieri
Dec 10, 2005


:dukedog:

Had a client yesterday blow up their MSSQL install, or at least that was my idea when I connected to the server. MSSQL would refuse to start and the log folder showed no new logs since a reboot in the morning. Turns out their onsite tech swore the data drive letter should be D:\ so they changed it without letting anyone know. Switched it back to E:\ and everything came up just fine.

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