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I think his question was more about how porn, just like other media, creates standards and stereotypes about human relationships and behavior. Most of the porn I see seems to cater to male audiences, features women as constantly sexually available, and frequently cater to a fairly specific set of genre scenarios ( like a cheerleader audition or hitchhiker). This probably has a powerful impact on young men's ideas about women, as well as how sex works. He's asking DP if the impact is ever a negative one. Chill out, he's not condemning the OP or our precious porn.
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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:Please tell me more about how I ought to feel about porn degrading women, you know, since I actually am one. Yes. As a woman, your opinion applies to each woman, and all women in general. Anyway. I think the question is valid and I'm interested to hear the answer. Some of you people just freaked out that some guy on the internet dared to criticize pornography as a whole. All art can and probably should be critiqued. Adults can view pornography for what it is, but the extreme availability of streaming internet porn is definitely exposing tons of this stuff to children much sooner than was ever possible before, and that probably is going to have some unintended consequences for society. Let's face it, porn is a fantasy that is often very unlike real sex. I am a consumer of porn myself, but it makes me a little ill to think that hardcore pornography is probably how kids are learning about sex these days. I don't think anyone is saying that porn is The Problem, and darkpriest of all people is not going to be offended by a suggestion to explore this topic... I think he hates those porn-tube sites anyway. So here's a real question I thought of while writing this post. darkpriest, how old were you when you first discovered pornography and how did you come across it?
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echinopsis posted:I've got a few questions for ya. Been waiting for this thread to come around again Jay is an interesting character. Without a doubt he was one of the best camera men in the industry and has a RABID fanbase. quote:Is Mike Adriano real creepy? What's the deal with people like him doing work for Evil Angel but also Bang Bros? Mike shot for Bang before he was offered a distro deal at Evil Angel. He made that arraignment when he was brought on board. I sometimes shoot for other companies still, though nowhere near like I used to. quote:Do you "hang" out with those guys? No. I saw Mike in Vegas during our convention this past year and we will briefly chat, same with Jay, but I'm not texting and calling them. quote:How often do girls get into things not knowing what it is they are getting into? Are you talking about the scene? Or are you referring to something in their personal life? quote:Why did Lisa Ann leave Evil Angel and go to Jules Jordan? Lisa was never part of Evil Angel. Until she started producing for JJV, she had only performed. She started producing her own monthly title for JJV this year. quote:Is there love or hate between Evil Angel and Jules Jordan? I consider Jules a friend and he is one of the few producers I speak to often and have a great deal of respect for. quote:Where does Elegant Angel fit in in regarding respect amongst the industry? They hit the top level last year and then strangely went through a massive change. The owner fired all their directors that had raised the company to such a high level. Mason went on to start Hard X and Erotica X for a company in Canada called Mile High. William H went to JJV. I'm not sure where LT ended up. I don't think Elegant will have the same market share going forward. Mason and William H are very good at what they do. quote:Can someone tell Manuel Ferrera to lose a few pounds? You should tweet that to him.
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The Locator posted:Earlier you talked about the talent testing every two weeks, and everyone uses the same lab. The industry in the US has a much better testing system, where the performers tests are monitored by a group of doctors. They in turn determine if there are any issues that should result in the industry to halt shooting, as they did last year. Europe does not have the same centralized testing. Instead they test at various labs and just show each other their results. I shot in Europe last year and I went to a lab. It was very similar to how they do things here in the states. Drew my blood and took my urine and then the next day emailed me my results. The results were a little harder to read since I couldn't read the language, but I had a translator. The battery of tests is still the same. Actually Europe was testing for Syphilis for a long time, before we were in the US.
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spatula posted:Yes. As a woman, your opinion applies to each woman, and all women in general. I missed the part where I said I spoke for everyone woman.... Nor have I attempted to even speak for a majority of women... pretty sure that was the poster that tried to postulate his personal feelings on pornography as being indicative of all humans and how CLEARLY all of us poor simpleminded women were all soooooooo degraded by X act. I'm just saying that its hilariously contra-intuitive to say that you speak for women and ZZZ act is degrading when like, your arguments are based in feminist theory from 40 years ago. stop telling me what im allowed to consent to or find sexy. it defeats your purpose.
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No one made any of these arguments, you just said "I'm a woman" and expected that crazy truth bomb to reveal a poster who asked the OP if he thought porn had some negative effects on how men see women as some oppressive as some huge misogynist.
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Last Buffalo posted:to reveal a poster who asked the OP if he thought porn had some negative effects on how men see women Oh, that's all he did?
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Ever worked with performer/MMA fighter War Machine? He used to date Christy Mack, and according to her he was really abusive. Is that something that would get you blacklisted from the industry?
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What does it feel like dating a girl less than half your age? Do you have much in common with her at all? Do you ever plan to "settle down" in the conventional sense - like, retire and get married or something? (Just in general, not with her in particular.) If that kind of question is too personal then I apologise, just pass 'em over.
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Last Buffalo posted:I think his question was more about how porn, just like other media, creates standards and stereotypes about human relationships and behavior. Most of the porn I see seems to cater to male audiences, features women as constantly sexually available, and frequently cater to a fairly specific set of genre scenarios ( like a cheerleader audition or hitchhiker). This probably has a powerful impact on young men's ideas about women, as well as how sex works. He's asking DP if the impact is ever a negative one. Chill out, he's not condemning the OP or our precious porn. Thank you. I can't believe how hard I got dog piled for asking this. The Ferret King posted:Oh, that's all he did? Yes. That's all I want. Sorry if you think I have some hidden agenda to take down this ask tell thread.
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One of your questions is about kids watching porn and learning from it. Porn is not meant for kids. Do you blame the tobacco companies when kids smoke cigarettes they find off the street? Edit: that was a terrible analogy. Would you blame playboy if a kid finds his dad's collection? ChikoDemono fucked around with this message at 21:30 on May 15, 2014 |
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Rap Music and Dope posted:Thank you. I can't believe how hard I got dog piled for asking this. It was incredibly obvious by the tone and word choice of your original post that you were in the mood for an argument. It was full of questions that you clearly already knew(in your own mind at least) the answers to, and was just generally antagonistic as poo poo. You weren't innocently asking a question like you are trying to claim, why not own up to it? Seriously, you weren't maybe a little bored or something and posted that because a good argument might kill an hour? That's what the post read like to me.
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Basebf555 posted:It was incredibly obvious by the tone and word choice of your original post that you were in the mood for an argument. It was full of questions that you clearly already knew(in your own mind at least) the answers to, and was just generally antagonistic as poo poo. You weren't innocently asking a question like you are trying to claim, why not own up to it? If he wanted an argument he's not doing a very good job of having one, despite everyone else shouting at him. Maybe it could have been phrased better, but he question was a perfectly legitimate one.
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ChikoDemono posted:One of your questions is about kids watching porn and learning from it. Porn is not meant for kids. Do you blame the tobacco companies when kids smoke cigarettes they find off the street? Without wishing to come down on either side of the fence here, I think it's a little different to a kid finding his Dad's PB collection these days. With the ubiquity of internet access to youngsters, it's only too easy for your average 12 y/o boy to access hard/extreme pornography. I grew up in the days of 56k dialup, so it definitely wasn't so easy to access on a large scale, but it was still not that hard to find content. Now, though? A whole new ball-game. One of the interesting things, though, is that I seem to remember reading somewhere that teen consumption of hard pornography produced by professional studios is on the decline. More and more, youngsters are using instant messaging apps on their phone to either access or solicit explicit content, often from their female friends. Getting into the reasons for that is an absolute can of worms, and definitely not right for this thread, but I do think it's an interesting shift. And, quite honestly, a sad one. Twelve year olds should be out playing in the backyard, not snap-chatting pictures of their genitals. It's a weird world.
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Zerok posted:First, thanks for this it's quite insightful. Not really. I wouldn't expect family to be. I think it would be more strange if they were supportive. They don't have to disown you for it, but I wouldn't want family patting me on the back for my latest movie. Friends can be different. Some don't care. Some are real into it. The ones that are tough are they are into it, but then when you are around them in a social setting with their girlfriend they become very weird. I'm not a very social person. I spend so much time working that I need my time to myself. I get in really bad moods when I don't have time alone.
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wagnike2 posted:My question is how prevalent is being a porn screenwriter? I've read the book from Eric Spitznagel and was intrigued by this career. Is this something that most tuidos do or do most directors just write their own scripts? Also, how would one go about getting started in this field if you have any insight? The only large scripts written are for the feature market. There used to be a group of script writers in the industry, but as features became less and less, they didn't have steady work. The reality internet companies do write scene scripts. For example Brazzers has scripts for their scenes. Those are written in house and given to the crew. In terms of getting into writing scripts for adult, I would have no clue. I don't think there would be steady enough work for it. It would really be a side freelance job. I am actually look for a script writer, mostly because I need good dialogue and I'm terrible at dialogue. Script examples:     
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Basebf555 posted:It was incredibly obvious by the tone and word choice of your original post that you were in the mood for an argument. It was full of questions that you clearly already knew(in your own mind at least) the answers to, and was just generally antagonistic as poo poo. You weren't innocently asking a question like you are trying to claim, why not own up to it? You are entirely wrong and sorry my tone wasn't entirely polite or academic when asking a question about Porn on the somethingawful forums. If I came off as an antagonistic poo poo towards the other poster or in this post towards you it's because you're both really trying to make something out of nothing. Stop stirring up poo poo when there is none and let Dark Priest police his own thread and questions.
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Rap Music and Dope posted:You are entirely wrong and sorry my tone wasn't entirely polite or academic when asking a question about Porn on the somethingawful forums. If I came off as an antagonistic poo poo towards the other poster or in this post towards you it's because you're both really trying to make something out of nothing. Stop stirring up poo poo when there is none and let Dark Priest police his own thread and questions. This isn't really helping your case, son. If you want the conversation to stop, then just apologize and drop it. Don't keep making antagonistic responses like you're doing here.
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PlesantDilemma posted:Porn has so many niches, it's crazy. What are some niches that you did not think would be popular, but became popular? Can you tell us about a scene or style you shot that you expected to do really good sales but then no one liked it? There is a niche called CFNM. It stands for Clothed Female Nude Male. I was surprised that got any traction. I love the idea of woman having sex in hot outfits. I do that stuff all the time (ie Dress up Dolls), but the CFNM thing was a little odd. I do a spandex/leggings series and I thought it would really do well. I love doing the series, but of all my releases it has been the weakest. Never really understood why. Ask away.
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Fucks sake lay off the guy. Obviously he's going to defend himself and get irate if you rip into him for nothing. Clearly he has his own opinions on the issue and that may have come across in the not exactly neutral tone of his post, but the question was perfectly reasonable. You're all being the antagonistic ones by refusing to accept his understandably qualified apology. Please stop derailing the thread with petty poo poo stirring, it's really interesting and I genuinely want to see it continue.Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:, son. Fucks sake I can't even take you seriously at all. You're like the cliché of a patronising rear end.
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darkpriest posted:There is a niche called CFNM. It stands for Clothed Female Nude Male. I was surprised that got any traction. I love the idea of woman having sex in hot outfits. I do that stuff all the time (ie Dress up Dolls), but the CFNM thing was a little odd. I thought the CFNM thing was more a humiliation thing? I'm not an expert, though — I can't say I've ever watched anything of that genre. Just judging by thumbnails!
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darkpriest posted:There is a niche called CFNM. It stands for Clothed Female Nude Male. I was surprised that got any traction. I love the idea of woman having sex in hot outfits. I do that stuff all the time (ie Dress up Dolls), but the CFNM thing was a little odd. from a consumer's point of view, why would i pay to see asses in yoga pants when i can just look out my window and jack off for free?
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Rap Music and Dope posted:How in any way is this comparable? Not trying to be this guy but comparing 2 extremes is easy, is not nearly all mainstream porn in which there is a man and woman pretty extreme? I mean you're just gonna tell me a guy/girl vanilla bang bros scene isn't usually pretty violent and degrading? This thread has been somewhat derailed with this back and forth acrimony over this one posting. Just to be clear, I don't expect everyone to like porn or view sex in the same way. Sex is highly personal and porn in many ways is highly subjective. What turns on one person could completely turn off another. Sex is complicated because it also deals with the things people go through in life. What turns you on at 18 and what turns you on 45 could be completely different as you experience different things in life and as your body ages. I do agree with some of the other commentators that you did come across angry or upset in your post. It doesn't bother me. Again your entitled to your opinion. I don't want to turn the thread into debating the societal impact of porn. My issue is you can't pick apart one aspect of porn and not accept that there exists a polar opposite of it. Here's a reality check for everyone. The most commercially successful product is not a man and a women having sex. Transexual porn and gay porn tends to be the big earners. In transexual porn the fetish is completely geared toward the TS dominating in some fashion the male. Femdom is also very popular and that involves everything from verbal degradation to the men being anally penetrated by the woman with a strap (pegging). No one ever worries about men doing this stuff, but somehow there is this view that the women in the industry have to be protected. That somehow woman aren't able to take care of themselves. It reeks of "we know what is better for you". I hate that. The women in the straight industry are fantastic. They aren't helpless and incapable. Many of them are strong independent women. The problem with living in a free society is that you sometimes have to defend something you don't like. Should children be accessing porn? No. But it falls on their parents to help them navigate the world. They shouldn't be smoking and drinking either or a host of other things. I have to disagree that the average Bang Bros scene is degrading. I consider Bang Bros fairly vanilla. This is a company that won't shoot anyone under the age of 21 anymore. If you are bothered by Bang Bros, then I'm assuming most porn would bother you. Which is completely your right. No one should jump down your throat because you are bothered by the content. How you view sexuality is who you are. I believe that sexuality is extremely complicated. We can't expect people to always fit nice and neatly into easily defined sexual relationships. Sex isn't always white picket fences and I love you's. There are people that legitimately love rough sex. Does everyone? Of course not. I wouldn't jump out of a plane, but lots of people love doing it. I can also offer you a personal example. When I go down on a girl I get really turned on when she holds me down there and holds my head. When I eat out a girl from behind I get really turn on when they hold my head between there rear end. I don't know why. Might be because they are clearly turned on by it. I have trouble breathing, but in the moment I don't care and there is another element of sex. Things happen in the moment. Let me also explain why I make porn. Right now there is some guy out there. He's married and got a family. He's over stressed and over worked. The wife takes off with the kids to run some errand and he's left alone for a couple of hours. Maybe he cracks open a beer and sits down and starts looking at some porn. For 10 minutes he lives out some sexual fantasy in his head that will never happen to him. After it's over he goes back to whatever his life is and that little personal escapade takes a bit of the edge off. Doesn't mean he's a bad husband or a bad farther. We all find ways to blow off steam. Think of the context of where I am even posting this. On an Internet message board where people anonymously spend countless hours insulting one another. Porn is escapism, just like horror movies, Pro Wrestling and McDonalds. If you eat McDonalds everyday you will most likely get fat and be unhealthy. If you consume porn everyday you will most likely have problems with personal sexual relationships. Everything requires moderation. But sometimes you just want a loving cheeseburger and fries. Now, how about we all try to get along. darkpriest fucked around with this message at 03:11 on May 16, 2014 |
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What's your take on this? Biggest Filer of Copyright Lawsuits - xart.com Granted, it's shame their business is hurt but it's still doesn't sound like justice to go for $150,000 per stolen movie.
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darkpriest posted:Script examples: (GET ON WITH IT!!)
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Realizing that most squirting in porn is faked, I love when there is an unexpected squirt in the middle of a scene. Are there any movies that you made where this happened and if so, which ones? I will immediatly pick them up! Also, assuming girls get paid more for doing more things, let's say that a girl is hired with no expectations of anal and somehow during the scene she gets a cock in her rear end. Does her pay for the day suddenly go up or do you have to yell "cut!" and stop the scene?
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How often do girls get injured from falling off the furniture they're precariously balancing on while wearing high heels? Or from being dropped by the male co-stars holding them while doing this weird standing 69 thing? How common are penile fractures?MettleRamiel posted:Also, assuming girls get paid more for doing more things, let's say that a girl is hired with no expectations of anal and somehow during the scene she gets a cock in her rear end. Does her pay for the day suddenly go up or do you have to yell "cut!" and stop the scene? How loose is your rear end in a top hat when you can accidentally get a cock in it.
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Mymla posted:How loose is your rear end in a top hat when you can accidentally get a cock in it. I more meant that if someone put it in there whether it be the male or female performer
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darkpriest posted:I am actually look for a script writer, mostly because I need good dialogue and I'm terrible at dialogue. Where can I send my script? And do I need to join WGA?
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MettleRamiel posted:Also, assuming girls get paid more for doing more things, let's say that a girl is hired with no expectations of anal and somehow during the scene she gets a cock in her rear end. Does her pay for the day suddenly go up or do you have to yell "cut!" and stop the scene? MettleRamiel posted:I more meant that if someone put it in there whether it be the male or female performer You're a special kind of dumb.
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darkpriest posted:Not really. I wouldn't expect family to be. I think it would be more strange if they were supportive. They don't have to disown you for it, but I wouldn't want family patting me on the back for my latest movie. Thanks for the answer. Do you see doing that kind of work until you retire? Don't you get bored after a while? Or with the fact that there's a lot of porn genre, new girls, new things to shot makes it more manageable and renew the fun you have doing this?
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Who makes the insane machines for the loving Machines series? Is there some machine/tool shop out there that's churning out strange piston machines with some grizzled foreman in faded dungarees and a cigarette who nods and goes "Hmm, yup, you want a double-bore reciprocating fucker with two degrees of rotation? Tricky, I'll put Gus on it. Should have the prototype in a week!" Because I hope there is.
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Jeherrin posted:Who makes the insane machines for the loving Machines series? Is there some machine/tool shop out there that's churning out strange piston machines with some grizzled foreman in faded dungarees and a cigarette who nods and goes "Hmm, yup, you want a double-bore reciprocating fucker with two degrees of rotation? Tricky, I'll put Gus on it. Should have the prototype in a week!" Because I hope there is. And who gets to test them?
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Jeherrin posted:Who makes the insane machines for the loving Machines series? Is there some machine/tool shop out there that's churning out strange piston machines with some grizzled foreman in faded dungarees and a cigarette who nods and goes "Hmm, yup, you want a double-bore reciprocating fucker with two degrees of rotation? Tricky, I'll put Gus on it. Should have the prototype in a week!" Because I hope there is. Just regular folks. I know quite a few tradespeople who didn't join the various unions and prefer to do contract or short term gigs in addition their other work who build sets/machines for Kink. Some of them are into it in their personal lives and others arent bothered by the sexual content. They actually employ a pretty large full time team of people who work behind the scenes there. You can do a tour of the whole Armory if you're ever in San Francisco. Kink even owns a bar across the street; they were trying to turn it into a social club for a while but I don't think it ever caught on.
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MettleRamiel posted:Realizing that most squirting in porn is faked, I'm probably going to regret asking this, but how? Timed explosives?
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I've been told that webcam models fake it by urinating, probably the same thing. The two fluids are virtually identical apart from scent and a very, very slight difference in viscosity.
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I've heard of a few ways. One is like the previous poster said, just plain urinating. Sometimes, the actress will drink a ton of water before the scene so it doesn't look to be urine. Another way is to just use a syringe to just inject some fluid, probably water and then push it out. These ones are obvious as there will be a clearly noticeable camera cut and then BOOM! she's squirting.
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Jeherrin posted:Who makes the insane machines for the loving Machines series? Is there some machine/tool shop out there that's churning out strange piston machines with some grizzled foreman in faded dungarees and a cigarette who nods and goes "Hmm, yup, you want a double-bore reciprocating fucker with two degrees of rotation? Tricky, I'll put Gus on it. Should have the prototype in a week!" Because I hope there is. Also are there instructions posted online for building such contraptions, and, if not, will you please post some here? Schematic diagrams, blueprints, chip manuals, whatever you got. 
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MettleRamiel posted:I've heard of a few ways. One is like the previous poster said, just plain urinating. Sometimes, the actress will drink a ton of water before the scene so it doesn't look to be urine. Um. This doesn't really make any sense if you understand female anatomy. Female ejaculation comes out of the same hole as pee does. I think you might be mixing up creampies and squirting as I don't think that injecting liquid into your urethra is preferred to just peeing (which is what 95% of squirting porn is). I have actually never heard of that.
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