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They look like a happy interracial couple, don't hate. Also learn python for your scripting needs.
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OK. drat imagine if i kept on making my app in a programming language that was a piece of poo poo.
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May 17, 2014 16:26
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All languages are a piece of poo poo. Luddites were probably onto something
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May 17, 2014 16:29
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there's poo poo, and then there's php.
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May 17, 2014 16:38
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when richard stallman dies can we embed celebration in the POS for a day, change all post icons to party, make all emoticons into that clown balloon, and change the background to cosby dancing
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May 17, 2014 16:39
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and the GPL spell binding the land will be broken
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May 17, 2014 16:42
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FamDav posted:when richard stallman dies can we embed celebration in the POS for a day, change all post icons to party, make all emoticons into that clown balloon, and change the background to cosby dancing it's what rms would have wanted
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May 17, 2014 16:44
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Shaggar posted:the model isn't business logic it's just the data that goes in the view. business logic determines how to process the request meaning it goes in the controller. k then call it m business logic vc Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:bro dev insists: no fat controllers
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May 17, 2014 17:23
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bro devs like fat models because the curves fit and they have no gag reflex fyi
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May 17, 2014 17:29
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Lmfao or maybe you are all nerds that think mvc is some kind of thing that people actually care about sticking to iRL. Eat my bumhole scrublords
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May 17, 2014 17:45
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uhhhh so if you're model isnt this its wrong, and the view should be dumb, and also the controller is where everything else goes - a dumb thing yosposters have been debating for 2 pages
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May 17, 2014 17:47
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PIGEOTO posted:Lmfao or maybe you are all nerds that think mvc is some kind of thing that people actually care about sticking to iRL. Eat my bumhole scrublords Agreed on the theory, but disagreed on the conclusion.
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May 17, 2014 17:48
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I would laffo so hard at if some nerd intern dipshit came into the office and was like "Okay this is bad. Our architecture doesn't conform precisely to the imaginary standards of MVC". Suck My Dick.
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May 17, 2014 17:50
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I just realised QT has functionality in its view?? What a piece of poo poo?????? Amirite??? LMao
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May 17, 2014 17:52
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I've been a professional web 'developer' for 9 months now and I still have no idea what mvc is lol
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May 17, 2014 18:04
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Police Academy III posted:I've been a professional web 'developer' for 9 months now and I still have no idea what mvc is lol neither does facebook apparently
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May 17, 2014 18:05
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Socracheese posted:neither does facebook apparently lol wow what losers hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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May 17, 2014 18:06
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it was pretty laffo when i started at my job and my boss told me "we do everything mvc style here" and when i started looking in to the code i found controllers that did nothing but forward to jsps and scriplets, scriplets as far as the eye could see
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May 17, 2014 19:25
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PIGEOTO posted:uhhhh so if you're model isnt this its wrong, and the view should be dumb, and also the controller is where everything else goes dumb nerds debating design so there isn't as much lovely software in the world, and for 2 whole pages, what are they thinking
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May 17, 2014 20:33
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Nipplebox posted:dumb nerds debating design so there isn't as much lovely software in the world, and for 2 whole pages, what are they thinking if you're one of those morons that parades around mvc like it actually has any kind of strict definition and solves even remotely the amount of problems you think it does then all the code you produce is most likely going to be utter shite anyway, so cheers.
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May 17, 2014 20:45
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heh, so let's debate about good design methodologys!! *slams 'software engineering for dummies' on table, automatically opening to section about Model View Controller*
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May 17, 2014 20:49
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mvc is really good and solves a bunch of problems
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May 17, 2014 20:51
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Shaggar posted:mvc is really good and solves a bunch of problems fwiw, i'm not sure what you described was actually mvc but i think it sounds like a good way to structure web apps, and I really despise arguing about definitions, so...
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May 17, 2014 20:57
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Shaggar posted:mvc is really good and solves a bunch of problems my point is MVC is one of those dumb things that literally does not matter how you define most of it, hence the furious discussion between morons about whether the model should be functional or whether the view should be a loving format string or what the controller actually does. who actually cares, and strict adherence to any of the definitions hamstrings you in some way or another later, that is if you're making a project that isn't for university.
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May 17, 2014 20:57
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and i learned that tbc is an ivory tower academic opposed to pragmatic php
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May 17, 2014 21:47
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Police Academy III posted:I've been a professional web 'developer' for 9 months now and I still have no idea what mvc is lol
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May 17, 2014 22:21
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Gazpacho posted:80% of web mvc is making sure that your app has some kind of kernel with no dependence on http or HTML whatsoever today it's an http api serving json, but tomorrow...who knows! maybe it will be soap over amqp. oh and we're not using postgresql anymore, the storage is riak. i hope your model layer is sufficiently abstracted to accommodate this change
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May 17, 2014 23:02
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everything is poo poo especially python
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May 18, 2014 00:34
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:today it's an http api serving json, but tomorrow...who knows! maybe it will be soap over amqp. oh and we're not using postgresql anymore, the storage is riak. i hope your model layer is sufficiently abstracted to accommodate this change dont worry its an orm so we can just slot in any storage theres no ... hahaaahahaaa
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May 18, 2014 00:50
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HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:it was pretty laffo when i started at my job and my boss told me "we do everything mvc style here" and when i started looking in to the code i found controllers that did nothing but forward to jsps and scriplets, scriplets as far as the eye could see this is so many companies ever "yeah we do source control" *has a few dozen commits in months all named "fix"* "we are totally in to kanban" *has a bunch of stickies on a wall like 'bugfix mail system' and 'friday casual day'* "node is the future" *most of everything still runs on classic asp with no goal to change any of it* not that im defending node!!!!!!!!
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May 18, 2014 00:56
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this is why if something matters to you in a job interview you don't leave it at a yes or no answer
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May 18, 2014 03:09
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PIGEOTO posted:my point is MVC is one of those dumb things that literally does not matter how you define most of it, hence the furious discussion between morons about whether the model should be functional or whether the view should be a loving format string or what the controller actually does. who actually cares, and strict adherence to any of the definitions hamstrings you in some way or another later, that is if you're making a project that isn't for university. you're angry for no reason
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May 18, 2014 08:11
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Gotta say a lot of the people bitching at fb don't have any more clue about mvc, having apparently learned anything except the original pattern and then elevated that particular bastardiZation to holy writ. Maybe that's pigeontoe's point
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May 18, 2014 08:56
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Shaggar posted:the model should be a pojo/poco. just a bunch of fields ur gonna put data in and that's it. no logic. what the fuckkkk
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May 18, 2014 10:24
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Gazpacho posted:Gotta say a lot of the people bitching at fb don't have any more clue about mvc, having apparently learned anything except the original pattern and then elevated that particular bastardiZation to holy writ. Maybe that's pigeontoe's point overall using facebooks technology choices as bad examples is a great way to illustrate to just about anyone that you care more deeply about what is right than about what works
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May 18, 2014 10:52
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:overall using facebooks technology choices as bad examples is a great way to illustrate to just about anyone that you care more deeply about what is right than about what works https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/under-the-hood-dalvik-patch-for-facebook-for-android/10151345597798920
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b0lt posted:https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/under-the-hood-dalvik-patch-for-facebook-for-android/10151345597798920 not pretty, but it was more googles failure than facebooks, and it is pretty clearly on the "make poo poo work" side of the spectrum. an ugly hack, but one that was already on a timetable to get phased out
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May 18, 2014 12:07
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as long as you don't string bash together html in the middle of ur code then ur probably fine otherwise uh enjoy your xss exploits i guess?
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Condiv posted:in other programming news, facebook doesn't understand mvc and reinvents the wheel this is what my first mvc thing looked like
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:this is what my first mvc thing looked like And also your last, too.
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