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Night Blade posted:Don't know what to say, it never even occurred to me. Non Solid object, pure melee user? Didn't need to think too much on the boss, Life Gem + Chugging Estus while just mashing attack. First time I fought Nashandra I thought they were some kind of spell charging up or else that they would explode/do damage if I got close. That was why I started throwing lightning at her, but then she didn't really follow up on the orbs and died.
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Darklurker really should've been the final boss, it's a fun fight and it's a shame that a lot of people probably aren't gonna see it because of how hidden it is.
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May 19, 2014 02:25
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I didn't break the obs my first time because it never occurred to me to do so. Wasn't even sure what they did, so I didn't go near them, all three of us just pelted her with lightning until she died 
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May 19, 2014 02:27
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And by "good weapon to make mundane" I mean "weird weapon almost no one uses" Except the ladle.
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May 19, 2014 02:27
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The game takes a deep drop in quality after the dragon shrine where you just backtrack to a couple places because you need to go back into the past to get a giants soul to do something for some reason? and then Nashandra shows up but she is gross and has a skeleton dress now? I didn't even really know why I was suppose to be there compared to reaching the Kiln and Gwyn in the first game A fight like Gwyn or anything from the DS1 DLC I feel are the best bosses they could of done for a final boss, something so hyper aggressive that a spellcaster couldn't just sit back and 100% 0% the boss before needing to dodge more then once like Nashandra. I mostly just didn't like Nashandra because she was unfairly punishing to pure melee with that curse gas that you may or may not be able to destroy based on your weapons moveset while being extremely easy and slow for any spellcaster when it should of been the opposite.
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May 19, 2014 02:27
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It does make the "Nashandra wants you to win" or "You're Nashandra's final boss" theories hold more water when the fight is easy from our perspective. Doesn't make the fight any better if those are true, just makes it more Maiden Astraea-esque where the actual battle isn't the key part of the confrontation. Then again, I've seen enough people struggle against her that I'm hesitant to call Nashandra too easy. She's still better than True Allant.
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May 19, 2014 02:31
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I mostly just didn't like Nashandra because she was unfairly punishing to pure melee with that curse gas that you may or may not be able to destroy based on your weapons moveset while being extremely easy and slow for any spellcaster when it should of been the opposite. I... thought she was painfully easy as pure melee? I'm a 40/40 melee build and I just hit her with my Curved Dragon Greatsword +5 until she died, just taking all the curse as it came. she was dead before it even took off 1/3 of my health bar.
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May 19, 2014 02:32
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Just because you didn't have any trouble doesn't mean the boss' mechanics aren't still punishing to your playstyle. Basically all of her attacks scream "hey you, don't get close to me" and then if you do get close to her you suffer unavoidable damage. It's just that, by this point in the game, you're kitted out to the point where said unavoidable damage is negligible.
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May 19, 2014 02:33
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Fashion Souls 2!
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May 19, 2014 02:34
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CJacobs posted:Just because you didn't have any trouble doesn't mean the boss' mechanics aren't still punishing to your playstyle. Basically all of her attacks scream "hey you, don't get close to me" and then if you do get close to her you suffer unavoidable damage. It's just that, by this point in the game, you're kitted out to the point where said unavoidable damage is negligible. yeah, that's true. I guess if you didn't have much in the way of HP it would probably be harder, and maybe I got lucky to a degree.
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May 19, 2014 02:37
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Here is my Fashion Souls contribution for the day. Vangarian armor, Benhart's gloves/boots. Alternatively, hard leather chestpiece, traveler's gloves, hollow soldier leggings.
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May 19, 2014 02:41
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:She's still better than True Allant. I don't get this. Why do people talk about True Allant as if he's the final boss of DeS? He's there for story reasons, the actual final boss is the False King.
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May 19, 2014 02:46
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Internet Kraken posted:It just makes zero sense that they would put effort into the joke boss but not the final boss. For whatever reason, From closes out a lot of their games poorly, whether it be bad area design, bad bosses, or just a lame way to end the story. The only ending fight I've liked out of those games was the Gwyn fight in DS1, and even that fight wasn't too hard once you figured him out. Then in this game, you just fight a sluggish boss that telegraphs everything hard, and sit in a chair where you do...something. It's a shame, because most of their games are a lot of fun, and would be even greater if they could just figure out how to close the show better. Queering Wheel fucked around with this message at 02:58 on May 19, 2014 |
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May 19, 2014 02:55
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Cardboard Box posted:yeah, that's true. I guess if you didn't have much in the way of HP it would probably be harder, and maybe I got lucky to a degree.
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May 19, 2014 02:58
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Bobby The Rookie posted:I was expecting to utterly smash her with pure melee, but I rarely upgraded my HP throughout the whole game so getting cursed+lifedrained had me scrambling to do damage control while any errant attack from her would one-shot me. Luckily I had sorcery to fall back on, but again, it never even occurred to me to destroy those orbs which would've made pure melee very doable. You can always use an effigy to reverse being cursed if it gets bad.
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May 19, 2014 02:59
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Thumbtacks posted:And by "good weapon to make mundane" I mean "weird weapon almost no one uses" I have never seen a machete in the wild. I'm not sure on the math but it looks like it'd probably benefit from mundane. Still probably be bad though. All the reapers are pretty rare.
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May 19, 2014 03:08
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Internet Kraken posted:I don't get this. Why do people talk about True Allant as if he's the final boss of DeS? He's there for story reasons, the actual final boss is the False King. Because you have to fight True Allant to beat the game. Technically after beating False Allant you could go back and do other worlds you haven't compleated so technically it's not the boss that puts things into a winstate condition so you HAVE TO consider the True King as the final boss not the False King.  It's retarded but that's how I've heard it described basically.
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May 19, 2014 03:09
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Manatee Cannon posted:You can always use an effigy to reverse being cursed if it gets bad.
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May 19, 2014 03:12
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I just leveled a punchy fist cleric up to go bellcop and do some fisticuffs in lowbie PvP (with magic spears too of course). Literally four out of the five trespassers I got before I quit in frustration had infinite health -- like, lightning spear to the face doing a bunch of damage but not moving their healthbar. This is only at 150k SM. Is anyone else seeing this that frequently at lower levels? Because this is pretty terrible, and I'm hoping it's just a weird statistical fluke.
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May 19, 2014 03:15
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FuriousGeorge posted:I have 270+ ratings on one that says "man... and then woman!" in the little room after Things Betwixt (which is the first place you can put messages). You get a lot of those around the shaking basilisk carts in Aldia's Keep.
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May 19, 2014 03:18
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Strange thing just happened to me. Started a NG+ recently and I joined the Way of Blue, because I figured that there were some bluecops that could use the work. Not too long later I get invaded, and a blue gets summoned to aid me almost immediately... despite the fact that I wasn't wearing the way of blue ring. What could cause this?
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May 19, 2014 03:20
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Doctor Zaius posted:Strange thing just happened to me. Started a NG+ recently and I joined the Way of Blue, because I figured that there were some bluecops that could use the work. Not too long later I get invaded, and a blue gets summoned to aid me almost immediately... despite the fact that I wasn't wearing the way of blue ring. What could cause this? You don't need to wear the ring.
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May 19, 2014 03:20
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Genocyber posted:You don't need to wear the ring. Huh, weird, always thought you did. Good to know!
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May 19, 2014 03:22
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Wearing the ring gets you summoned by other peeps who need help. But yeah if you are part of the covenant you still get the perks of a blue cop.
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May 19, 2014 03:37
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I'm just wrapping up NG++ and despite having 50 vitality (although fully hollow with the ring of binding), Nashandra's attacks absolutely do one-shot me. I wonder how much HP I'd need just to survive a single scythe or beam. I never noticed those were orbs she was making, though. They just looked like little dark geysers so I thought there wouldn't be anything to hit in the first place. I wish I knew about that an hour ago.
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Shindragon posted:Wearing the ring gets you summoned by other peeps who need help. But yeah if you are part of the covenant you still get the perks of a blue cop. They're talking about WAY of the Blue, not Blue Sentinels. To make this abundantly clear: Way of the Blue does not need to wear the ring to have Blue Cops show up and help Blue Sentinels DO have to wear their ring to be summoned to help
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May 19, 2014 03:49
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I started a new character and was running through FoFG and the trapped chest near the chloranthy ring had a bright reddish-pink gas/mist come out of it. Poison is always green, so was this a glitch or just some trap I've never ever seen before?
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May 19, 2014 03:58
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Colapops posted:I started a new character and was running through FoFG and the trapped chest near the chloranthy ring had a bright reddish-pink gas/mist come out of it. Poison is always green, so was this a glitch or just some trap I've never ever seen before? Probably just the lightning affecting its color.
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May 19, 2014 03:59
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Does anyone who gets summoned by boss at the Mirror Knight actually live for more than a few seconds? I've been Sunbroing there for a while, and when someone gets called in they are pasted in seconds - I imagine it might be fun if you get called in to a situation where someone is solo fighting the boss. Otherwise it looks like a waste of time?
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Saltin posted:Does anyone who gets summoned by boss at the Mirror Knight actually live for more than a few seconds? I've been Sunbroing there for a while, and when someone gets called in they are pasted in seconds - I imagine it might be fun if you get called in to a situation where someone is solo fighting the boss. Otherwise it looks like a waste of time? Yeah, of course. I actually won in one of my two attempts. The other time I got slaughtered by a three man team.
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Boss fights are usually extremely easy when you have two phantoms helping you. Mirror Knight is no exception, even when he summons a player character. All it takes is one person to keep Mirror Knight occupied, leaving two people free to gang up on the mirror squire. Unless they are really incompetent or you are running a cheap build, you're probably gonna get squashed. Its only really fun when you get summoned against a solo person, or someone with only 1 helper. Just another problem with the fight, but I wouldn't consider it much of one if the summoning wasn't completely broken. The reason its a waste of time is because its so hard to get summoned in the first place and you have to deal with trolls and invaders while trying to do so. Not worth doing that even if you always got a good fight.
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I can't remember NG Nashandra, but at higher bonfire intensities, the scythe and laser pointer are both 1-hit kills. Even so, I've died more times from falling off the ledge in that arena than from anything Nashandra does. I've had similar problems with the Throne Watcher and Defender. The real final boss is gravity. That's the super secret subtext of DS2.
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King of Solomon posted:Yeah, of course. I actually won in one of my two attempts. The other time I got slaughtered by a three man team. So you beat a dude going solo and then got pasted by a three man? I only ask because it looks like fun to play the spoiler but every fight I've been in on has been a three on one. Saltin fucked around with this message at 04:14 on May 19, 2014 |
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May 19, 2014 04:04
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  The floating "Let there be light..." message from Dark Souls 1 is back with a vengeance! 
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May 19, 2014 04:25
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On my no bonfire run: Just finished Velstadt, grab my ring. And now I just... I just... 
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May 19, 2014 04:28
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turtlecrunch posted:On my no bonfire run: Run fast.
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Amazing chest ahead
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May 19, 2014 04:32
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turtlecrunch posted:On my no bonfire run: This is why I'll never do a no bonfire run. Walking back through every area sounds like the most tedious thing ever. Plus I'm sure I'd accidentally sit down in Majula out of habit. CJacobs posted:
I saw this a week ago. Its probably the highest rated message in the game. I'm not sure how they got it to float in the first place though.
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Saltin posted:So you beat a dude going solo and then got pasted by a three man? I only ask because it looks like fun to play the spoiler but every fight I've been in on has been a three on one. It was the other way around, but yes. You basically have to get lucky. It's why I don't try very often. Well, that and the time investment be necessary to get summoned at all.
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Internet Kraken posted:I saw this a week ago. Its probably the highest rated message in the game. I'm not sure how they got it to float in the first place though. They used cheat engine to move their character into the air, put the message down, and changed the rating super duper high so it'll never leave. I'm personally glad to see it.
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