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Kaboom Dragoon posted:Isn't Heroin Jesus still alive? I kinda forget what happened to him after you beat him, other than him falling over and laughing. I assume either A: he died of injuries shortly thereafter (probably not) B: he died when the tower fell or disappeared or whatever it did C: he eventually died from his Persona suppressants or whatever. Take your pick.
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:You mean Ken being a part of Koromaru's moveset, right? I can picture Ken with levers and buttons on his head and a little throne Koro sits upon to control him.
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May 20, 2014 17:50
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Golden Goat posted:I can picture Ken with levers and buttons on his head and a little throne Koro sits upon to control him. That's so much better than my mental image of Ken riding Koromaru like a horse.
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May 20, 2014 17:53
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ImpAtom posted:Looks like Famitsu has leaked that Ken and Konomaru are the final playable character in Arena (functioning as a pair.) Watch them having the design of the dorm guy from Trinity Soul and his dog 
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May 20, 2014 17:57
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Man, I'm loving Devil Survivor OC. I went into it knowing the main "twist" I guess but I'm surprised how dark the plot is. It's the first act of SMT1 extended to a week and taken to its logical conclusion: the gradual breakdown of society in a confined space with demons on the loose. Also, most games set in contemporary Japan, at least that I've played, shy away from showing the government/SDF in a negative light, focusing any social commentary on the perpetually underestimated police force. But all this conspiracy poo poo is real here and it's great! God I want Break Record, is it out in Japan?
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May 20, 2014 18:11
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Captain Walker posted:Man, I'm loving Devil Survivor OC. We don't really know if Break Record is still even a thing. They haven't said anything about it since it's been "delayed".
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May 20, 2014 18:20
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That said, a dub of the anime was confirmed for later this year, I think, so things may still be in motion for Break Record.
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May 20, 2014 18:23
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July for the Anime dub. As far as the game goes, I think pretty much anything not Persona related is on an indefinite hiatus. SMTIV Europe and Break Record (Maybe EPP US Release) fell in the time frame where old index went bankrupt and Sega bought out the Atlus division and IP.
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May 20, 2014 18:32
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Captain Walker posted:Man, I'm loving Devil Survivor OC. You are going to be in for a big disappointment with 2, since it lacks basically all of the stuff you seem to like about 1. Unless you like Evangelion I guess, then you'll probably like 2.
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May 20, 2014 19:06
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I thought the consensus was that 2 was universally better, plot and gameplay? I mean don't get me wrong I love me some Persona, I just though 1 was a refreshing change of pace.
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May 20, 2014 19:18
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Captain Walker posted:I thought the consensus was that 2 was universally better, plot and gameplay? I mean don't get me wrong I love me some Persona, I just though 1 was a refreshing change of pace. 2's plot is infinitely worse.
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May 20, 2014 19:23
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Gameplay wise 2 is a pretty big improvement, storywise it's pretty divisive, personally I loving hated it, and felt it lacked really any of the tension the first game had since there's very little focus on "surviving" the same way you are in 1, and next to no focus on how people outside the party are dealing with the situation. To put it bluntly, 2's story is basically Evangelion fanfiction so it really comes down to if that's something you'd like or not. Maybe I would have a different opinion if I did the Yamato route since I only ended up playing it once (compared to the like 10 times I've played through DeSu1) so 
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May 20, 2014 19:23
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Captain Walker posted:I thought the consensus was that 2 was universally better, plot and gameplay? I mean don't get me wrong I love me some Persona, I just though 1 was a refreshing change of pace. The gameplay definitely is, but you'll get a lot of people miffed about tone inconsistency and DS2 not keeping the same tension as the first game. DS2 is also pretty easy overall, mostly due to the lack of really interesting or gimmicky fights that were in DS1. But hey, way fewer escort missions!
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May 20, 2014 19:24
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Gameplay wise 2 is a pretty big improvement, storywise it's pretty divisive, personally I loving hated it, and felt it lacked really any of the tension the first game had since there's very little focus on "surviving" the same way you are in 1, and next to no focus on how people outside the party are dealing with the situation. Yamato's route is the best, so you're missing out if you don't play it. Anyway, DS2 is really good, just like DS1 is really good.
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I like the DS2 plot a lot, but it's pretty divorced from the tone of the first game. It's kind of like the jump from Persona 2 to Persona 4. It's a lot more monster-of-the-week, and there's a greater amount of comedy relief type scenes.
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May 20, 2014 19:36
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DarkHamsterlord posted:That's so much better than my mental image of Ken riding Koromaru like a horse. I was thinking more like this guy, because sometimes you just need to drive a sasquatch like a power suit.
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May 20, 2014 19:55
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So my question with this is will they use Nemesis or Cerberus or both or neither or what?
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May 20, 2014 19:58
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projecthalaxy posted:So my question with this is will they use Nemesis or Cerberus or both or neither or what? Nemesis will ride a chariot drawn by Cerberus. The end boss of their story mode is Mara.
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May 20, 2014 20:01
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Prism posted:I was thinking more like this guy, because sometimes you just need to drive a sasquatch like a power suit.  Jesus that is totally not what I imagined. He doesn't even have a little crown on his head.
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May 20, 2014 20:06
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Digital Devil Saga is now available for 10 bucks in the US PS store!
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So, I picked up Raidou vs the Soulless Army on PSN, and I'm wondering if there's a build for the summoner that's considered standard, kinda like how its usually smart to put most points into Magic for Devil Survivor. Or just any general tips to hold onto for this game.
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May 20, 2014 22:42
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ImpAtom posted:Looks like Famitsu has leaked that Ken and Konomaru are the final playable character in Arena (functioning as a pair.) How did people predict this? Seems like a totally off the wall prediction to make. It was a really popular rumor before they even started announcing new characters. Endorph posted:Eh, there's plenty of precedent for two characters acting as one in fighting games. In Melty Blood, Hisui and Kohaku are a tag-team in every sense of the word, including actually tagging in and out. Every character in P4A is already a tag team! If these guys are using Persona then yeah there's potential for 4 seperate things happening at once although I don't think they'd do that. I think they wanted a way to get Koro in without dealing with weird hitboxes. It would be really cool if every button press corresponded to a different character too - A Koro, B Ken, C Cerberus, D Nemesis. Edit: I guess there's also the potential of Koro and Ken basically each being a different stance.
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FighterKnuckles posted:So, I picked up Raidou vs the Soulless Army on PSN, and I'm wondering if there's a build for the summoner that's considered standard, kinda like how its usually smart to put most points into Magic for Devil Survivor. Or just any general tips to hold onto for this game. The best tip I could have given you was "Don't buy it and wait for Raidou versus King Abaddon instead" but it looks like it's too late.
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TurnipFritter posted:The best tip I could have given you was "Don't buy it and wait for Raidou versus King Abaddon instead" but it looks like it's too late. The first game is still good. It's got a nice boat.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:It would be really cool if every button press corresponded to a different character too - A Koro, B Ken, C Cerberus, D Nemesis. I'd like that. Ken would be using Kala-Nemi rather than Nemesis, though. I still don't understand why the P4 characters still use their initial personas.
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May 21, 2014 12:58
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Probably to distinguish them from the more experienced and mature P3 cast. In term of in universe justification, remember your Persona changes according to your own maturity. Letting yourself go might means it will devolve.
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May 21, 2014 13:08
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Iceclaw posted:Probably to distinguish them from the more experienced and mature P3 cast. In term of in universe justification, remember your Persona changes according to your own maturity. Letting yourself go might means it will devolve. That's possible, but less than compelling for the P4 party members that have made good on carrying on with their resolution from the end of their social link arc (e.g. Chie, Naoto).
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:How did people predict this? Seems like a totally off the wall prediction to make. It was a really popular rumor before they even started announcing new characters. Best Buy put their listing up early listing Ken and Rise as newcomers along with Junpei and Yukari. Rise was announced a couple days later and we were just waiting for Ken's announcement. E: Iceclaw posted:Probably to distinguish them from the more experienced and mature P3 cast. In term of in universe justification, remember your Persona changes according to your own maturity. Letting yourself go might means it will devolve. The Persona 3 cast members got their new Personas through story events. The Persona 4 members all got theirs through S.Link events which in the case of all but Teddie could be skipped. Not to mention Golden had just come out at the same time and they didn't want to spoil people with promotional materials. The sound files for the evolved personas were even recorded, just not used. Dehry fucked around with this message at 13:24 on May 21, 2014 |
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Iceclaw posted:Probably to distinguish them from the more experienced and mature P3 cast. In term of in universe justification, remember your Persona changes according to your own maturity. Letting yourself go might means it will devolve. It's dumb but this is probably true, it's part of a few of their stories that they worry they haven't actually changed at all from the beginning of Persona 4. Well, that and the fact that ultimate personas were optional in Persona 4 but not in Persona 3. If you'll recall, the SEES members got theirs in actual cutscenes whereas the investigation team needs you to finish their s-links. Atlus probably just stuck with the default personas because you might never have seen the others, except for Izanagi-no-Okami which is in the game I think.
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Dehry posted:Best Buy put their listing up early listing Ken and Rise as newcomers along with Junpei and Yukari. Rise was announced a couple days later and we were just waiting for Ken's announcement. I specifically remember people saying "Ken and Koro will be one character" though, unless the listing was that specific. Also the Shadow version of Koro just looks like a normal dog, and I didn't know dogs could have Shadows anyway
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FighterKnuckles posted:So, I picked up Raidou vs the Soulless Army on PSN, and I'm wondering if there's a build for the summoner that's considered standard, kinda like how its usually smart to put most points into Magic for Devil Survivor. Or just any general tips to hold onto for this game. The game is easy enough that any build is viable. MAG is useful because it slows your Magnetite consumption and affects your elemental bullets, but I tend to go for health and strength since you'll be doing most of your damage via sword combos. It really depends on how much you favor guns over swords, though. The only real advice is that you should make sure you acquire a Thoth. This game has probably the smallest collection of demons in any of the PS2 games, so it's easy to get them all, but late in the game you can get Thoth and you should have one for a certain sequence that it trivializes.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I specifically remember people saying "Ken and Koro will be one character" though, unless the listing was that specific. He has a persona, why wouldn't he have a shadow. They're the same thing.
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The P4 characters probably still have their initial forms because they're far more iconic and recognizable than their second forms. I mean, Jiraiya is a more bombastic design than Susano-o (And probably easier to make a sprite for) and Tomoe is definitely something more people would immediately recognize, especially given the track suit. There might be some storyline reason to it (I mean the game is after all about the Investigation Team sort of stagnating), but I can't really think of one that would be significant.
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Well, Naoto's persona does change in her LN spinoff, and I wouldn't be surprised if in P4D if the characters look different. Also scan: 
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Dehry posted:Well, Naoto's persona does change in her LN spinoff, and I wouldn't be surprised if in P4D if the characters look different. Ken looks kind of  but Koro's loving awesome.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Ken looks kind of
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May 21, 2014 15:29
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It's weird how Ken looks like he's a fully grown teenager when he's 13, but anime, whatever. I was sort of hoping he would ride Koromaru like a horse, c'est la vie.
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In the picture with him and Yukari I thought he was a girl for a second. Though, now that I think about it I wonder why he wasn't the P3 cameo in Golden? Who cares about P3 Justice s-link girl. Koromaru's hoodie looks real dumb but in a way I can get behind.
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May 21, 2014 15:31
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Shadow Ken is kinda freaking me out there. 
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Chihiro was already in Persona 4 Vanilla as the cameo. Not like anyone really cares about Ken either.
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