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If he re-signs with Detroit he'll immediately get suspended for half the season for punching an opposing coach. If he signs with another team he'll get like 14 sacks and set a record for TFLs. That's how it works.
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News: Seahawks visit the white house and Obama makes some silly jokes. Pete Carroll does not appear to ask him about 9/11. Marshawn Lynch does not attend. Views: When is this team gonna get some national attention? loving east coast bias.
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May 21, 2014 19:34
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Lynch didn't attend because if the Broncos had won they would have been invited to the White House instead so gently caress that
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May 21, 2014 19:38
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shiksa posted:And what, play soccer in the meanwhile? Actually that'd be amazing. I'm surprised every time I go there that there isn't a pedway directly from the stadium to the train, so that you don't have to brave walking past black people on the streets. Back to the NFL, Soldier Field is freaking far from mass transit, so if it's the best there is that's pathetic.
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May 21, 2014 19:47
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Rice is getting no jail time and a year of community service, and if he completes it, won't even be convicted. Nor will he face even a game of suspension. Meanwhile RIP Josh Gordon's career
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May 21, 2014 19:48
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Sweeney Tom posted:Rice is getting no jail time and a year of community service, and if he completes it, won't even be convicted. Nor will he face even a game of suspension. you see smoking weed affects the sanctity of the game in these ways;
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May 21, 2014 19:49
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SlipUp posted:He could have refused to sign and had his pick of a dozen teams who would have eventually given him a monster contract. Maybe a mil here or there doesn't matter all that much for the kinda crazy multimillionaire??? If you're talking about Suh being drafted, I'm pretty sure that isn't how it works. IIRC, his draft rights remain with the team until the next draft at which point he's eligible to be drafted again. What you're describing would basically make the draft and especially the new rookie wage scale obsolete if players just could wait a little bit and be free to sign with anyone. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it goes something like that.
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May 21, 2014 19:58
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Schwack posted:News: Seahawks visit the white house and Obama makes some silly jokes. Pete Carroll does not appear to ask him about 9/11. Marshawn Lynch does not attend. Obama is a 12th man: 
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May 21, 2014 20:01
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Carroll has the embarrassing "not sure what to do with hands" pose.
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May 21, 2014 20:05
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He's feeling for any loose change in his pockets
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May 21, 2014 20:06
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Quest For Glory II posted:He's feeling for any loose change in his pockets He was hoping to be close enough to hoverhands the president, but the secret service wasn't having any of it
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May 21, 2014 20:09
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He's checking for bugs or possibly attempting to dust off chemtrail residue.
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May 21, 2014 20:10
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I used to push my pants down whenever I had an inopportune boner
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May 21, 2014 20:18
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Jeez, was Percy Harvin THAT important?
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May 21, 2014 20:29
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Doltos posted:I used to push my pants down whenever I had an inopportune boner No such thing.
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May 21, 2014 20:29
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gohuskies posted:Obama is a 12th man: This has potential, you just need to photoshop something onto the 12 flag.
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May 21, 2014 20:32
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Dattserberg posted:If you're talking about Suh being drafted, I'm pretty sure that isn't how it works. IIRC, his draft rights remain with the team until the next draft at which point he's eligible to be drafted again. What you're describing would basically make the draft and especially the new rookie wage scale obsolete if players just could wait a little bit and be free to sign with anyone. Yet it happened this very decade! I mean, all of this is true, sure. But do you see the Detroit lions sitting on the best defensive prospect of the draft (maybe ever depending who you asked at the time.) for a year just to see him go with nothing to show for it in return? For what, spite, pride? Someone would've been willing to trade for him or draft him next year. They would've taken anything over nothing.
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May 21, 2014 20:34
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commy gun posted:Jeez, was Percy Harvin THAT important? I laughed way harder than I should have at that.
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Great White Hope posted:This has potential, you just need to photoshop something onto the 12 flag. tribute.avi
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May 21, 2014 20:35
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Great White Hope posted:This has potential, you just need to photoshop something onto the 12 flag. The burning twin towers.
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May 21, 2014 20:44
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Quest For Glory II posted:He's feeling for any loose change in his pockets Hahahahaha amazing
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May 21, 2014 20:45
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SlipUp posted:Yet it happened this very decade! Because it's a massive red flag. And Suh would have to agree to the new team. Owners would instruct their GMs not to allow that behavior to go unpunished because it hurts the bottom line. You're insane if you think he'd get traded to New England for their first round pick or something stupid because then it's showing people they can get away with it. No way no how.
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May 21, 2014 20:48
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SlipUp posted:Yet it happened this very decade! Who are you referring to? Could it happen? Sure. Would it? I really don't know, but we have yet to see that situation play out. So it's not like players are forcing a teams hand as they please right out of the draft.
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May 21, 2014 20:49
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Because it's a massive red flag. And Suh would have to agree to the new team. Those Chargers sure showed that Eli Manning and all his red flags!
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May 21, 2014 20:54
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I also remember fondly all those years TO spent on the Ravens because of how teams always have total control of a player's market value and are totally willing to eat some picks and some cap just to make a point. Good thing FO never have to worry about losing their job over an unpopular decision.
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May 21, 2014 21:03
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And who would dare retire to void contractual obligations and (almost) immediately sign with whatever team you like? Totally unethical, I'm sure anyone who did that would be immediately blackballed from the league!
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May 21, 2014 21:12
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SlipUp posted:And who would dare retire to void contractual obligations and (almost) immediately sign with whatever team you like? Totally unethical, I'm sure anyone who did that would be immediately blackballed from the league! After Favre "retired" didn't he have to formally request the Packers to void his contract to sign with the Jets? They still held rights to his service, retirement isn't a "get out of contract free" button. I mean it was real scummy of him to pretend like he wasn't going to play for the Vikings for like one second but whatever. E: I was wrong, the Packers traded him, the Jets released him from his contract after he retired the second time. He still would've been obligated to the Jets had they not done that though. shiksa fucked around with this message at 21:30 on May 21, 2014 |
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May 21, 2014 21:28
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Schwack posted:The burning twin towers. I tried... 
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May 21, 2014 21:29
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Instead of burning twin towers can someone photoshop handlebar mustaches on all of them? That would be most delightful.
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May 21, 2014 21:32
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shiksa posted:After Favre "retired" didn't he have to formally request the Packers to void his contract to sign with the Jets? They still held rights to his service, retirement isn't a "get out of contract free" button. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to do but it's not "No way no how" like aaadolf put it. I'm sure if Suh did it people would be pissed and some teams might change their minds on him, but there would be someone willing to take a shot on him. He could do it as long as money and maybe public perception are of no concern. (I really doubt Suh cares overly about either of those things.) So if you have the desire and you're good enough, you can game the system if you're willing to make sacrifices.
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May 21, 2014 21:35
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SlipUp posted:Sure, it's not the easiest thing to do but it's not "No way no how" like aaadolf put it. I'm sure if Suh did it people would be pissed and some teams might change their minds on him, but there would be someone willing to take a shot on him. He could do it as long as money and maybe public perception are of no concern. (I really doubt Suh cares overly about either of those things.) Oh, yeah, I mean if you're willing to salt the earth you can do whatever, but as far as draftees go, there's less real options than a veteran like Favre who just wants to get out and skullfuck Green Bay twice a year. A draftee can get out of a place, but they can't really have free pick over where they go. Manning and Elway got traded, the new team still being out of their direct control, and Bo Jackson just told the Bucs to kick rocks while he played baseball, and got drafted again the next year. Elway and Bo at least had the threat of baseball, Eli was just being a sniveling brat about it, I really don't know what his leverage was.
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May 21, 2014 21:45
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Chimeric posted:
Russell Wilson's ex sure moved fast. 
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May 21, 2014 21:49
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May 21, 2014 21:50
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shiksa posted:Oh, yeah, I mean if you're willing to salt the earth you can do whatever, but as far as draftees go, there's less real options than a veteran like Favre who just wants to get out and skullfuck Green Bay twice a year. A draftee can get out of a place, but they can't really have free pick over where they go. Manning and Elway got traded, the new team still being out of their direct control, and Bo Jackson just told the Bucs to kick rocks while he played baseball, and got drafted again the next year. You assert a recent draft pick couldn't do what Farve did, but you don't have any real reasons why. There's still sinking a cost over an essentially meaningless statement. What team would dedicate one of their 53 man roster spots so they could not recognize a player's retirement? What's more important, winning or anything else?
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:His leverage was his last name, and the fact that the Chargers recognized who the superior quarterback was Which is why the Giants had to throw in draft picks for a trade. Cash Monet fucked around with this message at 22:01 on May 21, 2014 |
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May 21, 2014 21:57
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SlipUp posted:You assert a recent draft pick couldn't do what Farve did, but you don't have any real reasons why. Because then a team would have to completely relinquish his draft rights instead of trading him. I'm talking totally new in the NFL, no contract signed anywhere, if a player doesn't want to play for a team, he can demand a trade of his draft rights, but where he goes is up to the team. The team has absolutely no incentive to relinquish his draft rights. I might be wrong, but suppose Jadeveon Clowney absolutely refused to play for the Texans and didn't sign a contract until he was out of there. He doesn't count against the roster number because he's not signed, and he can't sign with another team until his rights are traded or relinquished, right?
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May 21, 2014 22:03
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shiksa posted:Because then a team would have to completely relinquish his draft rights instead of trading him. I'm talking totally new in the NFL, no contract signed anywhere, if a player doesn't want to play for a team, he can demand a trade of his draft rights, but where he goes is up to the team. The team has absolutely no incentive to relinquish his draft rights. He could sign first and then retire. These three situations were brought up in the context of situations where a player got to pick their own team sans FA. If we're strictly talking unsigned Suh it would've been more of an Eli or even TO type of situation.
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May 21, 2014 22:07
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SlipUp posted:And who would dare retire to void contractual obligations and (almost) immediately sign with whatever team you like? Totally unethical, I'm sure anyone who did that would be immediately blackballed from the league! Boy for someone who triple posts a bunch of smug poo poo that simply repeats your conclusion with predetermined hypotheticals to back it up you certainly wouldn't want to understand how contracts work!
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Your triple post of smug somehow skipped over Bo Jackson and how he... Oh he fell. quote:Uh this isn't how that worked
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