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Rad R. posted:Just watched Raw. Did anyone notice Action Bronson was there, right behind Cole? I'm trying to find photos of it, nothing, but pretty sure it was him. It was him for sure. You can find pics if you search twitter
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achillesforever6 posted:Was it more that they banned them due to oversaturation and worrying about lawsuits from parent's whose dumb kid got paralyzed from taking a piledriver from a friend? I don't think it was because of lawsuits but more because there was a rash of neck injuries in the late '90s/early 2000s (Austin, Edge, Benoit, Angle even Holly and Scotty 2 Hotty) and WWE had to mitigate them by banning the most obvious bad for your neck move. Losing a star for at least 9 months is not good for business if you have the ability to prevent that.
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I really don't think oversaturation of piledrivers was even close to a worry. if they were worried about move saturation nobody would do DDTs. the piledriver is banned entirely for safety reasons.
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May 22, 2014 01:49
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The move is legitimately banned in a number of state athletic commissions.
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John Cena posted:The move is legitimately banned in a number of state athletic commissions. Huh, which ones? What happened when WWF/E ran shows there when Taker was a regular?
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Isn't it banned in Louisana? I could've sworn that came up when ROH or TNA ran a show there recently.
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Thauros posted:Huh, which ones? What happened when WWF/E ran shows there when Taker was a regular? Taker would intimidate them into backing off. I don't think WWE is regulated by state athletic commissions. E - Wow, I googled and apparently pro wrestling has a lot of run ins with those guys. Supreme Allah fucked around with this message at 02:17 on May 22, 2014 |
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Supreme Allah posted:I don't think WWE is regulated by state athletic commissions. I'm pretty sure there's at least one that forbids blading/bleeding, but I couldn't tell you which offhand. e: yeah
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Rad R. posted:Just watched Raw. Did anyone notice Action Bronson was there, right behind Cole? I'm trying to find photos of it, nothing, but pretty sure it was him. Is this him?  edit: loving hell Jerry I think your t-shirt just gave me eye herpes.
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Supreme Allah posted:Taker would intimidate them into backing off. They are, and it's a large part of the reason they run Oregon and Kentucky so rarely.
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Memento posted:edit: loving hell Jerry I think your t-shirt just gave me eye herpes. meh, that shirt is downright tame compared to some other things he's worn
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Memento posted:Is this him? Jerry's tee-shirts have been awful for a long time now.
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John Cena posted:They are, and it's a large part of the reason they run Oregon and Kentucky so rarely. Portland used to be a big territory, did the commission crack down on wrestling in the '80s or '90s for some reason?
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Supreme Allah posted:Taker would intimidate them into backing off. It's one of the main reasons WWE admitted everything is fake: it lets them avoid most state athletic commissions. Up until the 90s they had to deal with them just about everywhere.
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May 22, 2014 02:29
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John Cena posted:They are, and it's a large part of the reason they run Oregon and Kentucky so rarely. I think Ian Rotten was the one responsible for Kentucky cracking down on pro wrestling via state athletic commissions because of his bullshit hardcore style he was running. As for Oregon, I'm recalling what I heard years ago, but it has to do something with drug testing and the Wellness Program isn't good enough for the commission to allow events. Though I could be wrong. It's worth nothing though that there was a RAW in Portland in 2011 so something has to be flexible.
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Isn't there a story of Kerry Von Erich got getting in trouble somewhere because the state athletic commission had a rule against amputees wrestling?
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Luigi Thirty posted:Isn't there a story of Kerry Von Erich got getting in trouble somewhere because the state athletic commission had a rule against amputees wrestling? The WWF tipped off the IL commission before Superclash III about the foot but they just tabled the issue until after the PPV.
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On the subject of Athletic Commissions' effect on wrestling, Quackenbush said that PA athletic commission regs were to blame when I asked him a couple years ago why they never ran Pittsburgh.quote:Hi (Thauros),
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Memento posted:Is this him? Yeah, he's the big dude with the beard. He has a song called The Rockers that shouts out Marty Janetty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS-WPTmaXvs He's a really good rapper in general, too
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Justin Godscock posted:I don't think it was because of lawsuits but more because there was a rash of neck injuries in the late '90s/early 2000s (Austin, Edge, Benoit, Angle even Holly and Scotty 2 Hotty) and WWE had to mitigate them by banning the most obvious bad for your neck move. Losing a star for at least 9 months is not good for business if you have the ability to prevent that. IIRC the neck injuries were related to rolling german suplexes.
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May 22, 2014 03:39
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Austin's was a piledriver from Owen Hart, hosed his neck up bad, almost career ending bad. They've got the footage of it on the Stone Cold documentary.
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The Louisiana commission has a lot of crazy rules, which include "Participants must be clean shaven" so you can see how seriously WWE took all of that.
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Action Bronson shouts out a wrestler in probably every other track also it's weird how much he sounds like Ghostface sometimes
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Shima Honnou posted:Austin's was a piledriver from Owen Hart, hosed his neck up bad, almost career ending bad. They've got the footage of it on the Stone Cold documentary. But not a traditional piledriver. I can't think of a single major injury from a traditional piledriver.
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I remember KY and PA having a rigid age requirement to be licensed and wrestle. It's why Chuck Taylor/Ricochet started mostly in Indiana and the whole Mark Briscoe angle in ROH when it started.
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epitasis posted:Action Bronson shouts out a wrestler in probably every other track also it's weird how much he sounds like Ghostface sometimes Yeah, his voice has gotten more distinct over the years but some tracks he's near identical to Ghost.
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MassRafTer posted:But not a traditional piledriver. I can't think of a single major injury from a traditional piledriver. BJ Whitmer suffered an injured neck from a botched Mike Bennett piledriver on the ring apron during a ROH card in Toronto last year. Was Chono's broken neck caused by a normal piledriver in his match vs. Austin? But yeah, considering how many guys have used piledrivers for decades the injury rate really isn't that terrible.
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:IIRC the neck injuries were related to rolling german suplexes. Yeah, piledrivers were pretty much never used by anyone at that time, but those guys were constantly suplexing the poo poo out of each other. quote:Was Chono's broken neck caused by a normal piledriver in his match vs. Austin? Nope, it was the exact same piledriver Owen injured Austin with.
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The piledriver was banned after HHH got a stinger from a Tombstone at Judgment Day 2000, which coincidentally was in Kentucky. So yes, you are reading that correctly. The piledriver was banned because Undertaker somehow managed to botch one of the safest moves in wrestling.
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Nut Bunnies posted:The piledriver was banned after HHH got a stinger from a Tombstone at Judgment Day 2000, which coincidentally was in Kentucky. I think you mean because Triple H is a big mean baby who couldn't handle the smallest tap of pain from Undertaker, the smelly jerk 
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Nut Bunnies posted:The piledriver was banned after HHH got a stinger from a Tombstone at Judgment Day 2000, which coincidentally was in Kentucky. I get those sometimes just doing everyday stuff. It doesn't necessarily mean Taker botched it.
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Action Bronson is a fat piece of poo poo.
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Regrettable posted:I get those sometimes just doing everyday stuff. It doesn't necessarily mean Taker botched it. Perhaps Undertaker botched something else and it gave you stingers? "Oops, I dropped my cup of water!" *Someone's arm goes numb, somewhere*
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Shima Honnou posted:Perhaps Undertaker botched something else and it gave you stingers? "Oops, I dropped my cup of water!" *Someone's arm goes numb, somewhere* These are the risks we all take for living in a world with a wrestling zombie biker wizard with magical lightning and flame powers.
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Regrettable posted:I get those sometimes just doing everyday stuff. It doesn't necessarily mean Taker botched it. Now I am not a doctor but I feel like there might be something wrong with you if you get stingers sometimes just from normal everyday activities.
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May 22, 2014 05:27
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I get stingers all the time. I got a stinger this morning and I'm here, jumping around.
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I also like yj stinger energy drinks.
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Regrettable posted:I get those sometimes just doing everyday stuff. It doesn't necessarily mean Taker botched it. Are you confusing stingers with hitting your funny bone?
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Speaking of dangerous moves, is Generico's Brainbuster as stupidly dangerous as it looks? Because every time I see it it looks like the guy taking it should be loving crippled.
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