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powerful weedlock posted:If there's a military doctor out there who isn't partially retarded I will eat my loving hat. The ones that do 4 years active and then go to residency 
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May 4, 2014 02:36
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Godholio posted:Woah. I haven't seen a Hot Dog Day in a while. There are not many of us around these days, that's for sure! I want to say that Hot Dog Day #80 still posts, but other than that I dont see many of my fellow HDDs anymore :/
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May 5, 2014 00:19
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What's the hot dog day thing about?
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May 5, 2014 00:40
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Namechange thread forever ago. Something like 80 people got renamed Hot Dog Day #XX. Similar to Dr. Video Games XX EDIT Apparently there's an SAclopedia article http://forums.somethingawful.com/dictionary.php?act=3&topicid=915
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May 5, 2014 01:06
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huh, never noticed that.
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May 5, 2014 03:17
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Do mods get tested on SA history and have to know about saclopedia entries and poo poo
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May 5, 2014 15:35
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No I'm just a sperg and have been reading poo poo on this website for way too loving long.
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May 5, 2014 15:47
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I've been a member longer than you lmafo n00b
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May 5, 2014 15:59
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yes that's a thing to be proud of
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May 5, 2014 16:15
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It's a badge of shame.
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May 5, 2014 17:53
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Keep the resource thread on topic, no one cares about how long you've been a shut-in nerd.
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May 5, 2014 18:30
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For anyone that has done the Army OCS enlistment option, how long did you have to wait after your OCS board to find out the date you ship out to basic? My board is scheduled for the beginning of June and wondering how long I'll have to wait to ship out after waiting nearly a year to get to this point. My recruiters are really optimistic about my chances, 3.11 GPA, 296 APFT, 132 GT score, Eagle Scout, lead a hotel cable installation crew, plus 4 really good letters of recommendation.
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May 15, 2014 16:06
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I did my board in the fall and went to Basic in January. 3-4 months was typical of other OCS options I talked to, but this was years ago. I bet the guys at the armyocs.com forums would have more current info.
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May 16, 2014 06:15
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Hi guys, it's me again. I'm doing better and I've talked to a Navy recruiter and taken my ASVAB and stuff. I got a 96, I know it doesn't really mean poo poo but I think I qualify for most stuff other than stuff that requires like shop knowledge and stuff like that because I never learned anything about any of that. My recruiter's pushing hard for nuke and I really don't think I wanna do that because I'm poo poo at math and so it sounds like it'd be poo poo for me. Any suggestions on things I should look into? I'm definitely going with the Navy. Edit: by the way I don't really mind what I end up doing, pretty much at all. It would be nice if it could apply to a civilian life or I might just end up being a lifer. Also I don't know if my vision is correctable to 20/20, I wear glasses cubivore fucked around with this message at 02:09 on May 22, 2014 |
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May 22, 2014 02:06
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cubivore posted:Hi guys, it's me again. I'm doing better and I've talked to a Navy recruiter and taken my ASVAB and stuff. I got a 96, I know it doesn't really mean poo poo but I think I qualify for most stuff other than stuff that requires like shop knowledge and stuff like that because I never learned anything about any of that. CTN. Do computer stuff purely stateside and then get out and make $$$ Warning: You will need some math.
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May 22, 2014 02:48
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gleep gloop posted:CTN. Do computer stuff purely stateside and then get out and make $$$ I'm not sure I'm qualified for top secret though, maybe should've mentioned that.
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May 22, 2014 03:20
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cubivore posted:I'm not sure I'm qualified for top secret though, maybe should've mentioned that. Uhhhhhh then you won't get nuke or any other cool job. Why do you think you don't qualify?
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May 22, 2014 03:38
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gleep gloop posted:Uhhhhhh then you won't get nuke or any other cool job. nuke is secret!! its not cool either!!
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May 22, 2014 03:42
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gleep gloop posted:Uhhhhhh then you won't get nuke or any other cool job. Uhhhh I have a lot of foreign family and friends I often interact with. And I was openly sort of a mega anti-America socialist during my teenage years. Plus I think some of my family may be criminals. And I went to a psychologist one time.
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May 22, 2014 04:36
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cubivore posted:And I was openly sort of a mega anti-America socialist during my teenage years. Is the "are you or were you ever a Socialist" question no longer on the application? It used to be a disqualifier.
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May 22, 2014 04:48
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poopkitty posted:Is the "are you or were you ever a Socialist" question no longer on the application? It used to be a disqualifier. I never saw it on my forms, then again what the Navy doesn't know 
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Pandasmores posted:I never saw it on my forms, then again what the Navy doesn't know Just looked. It's on my initial SF86. So, no clearance for you, cubivore. Enjoy life as a PACT SN.
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May 22, 2014 05:21
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/\ It's not on the current SF 86, look it up /\poopkitty posted:Is the "are you or were you ever a Socialist" question no longer on the application? It used to be a disqualifier. They haven't had any questions related to (non-violent) political activity at least since the Cold War ended, regardless of party affiliation. The only questions of that nature they have on there now all pertain to terrorism or attempting to overthrow the government of the U.S. by force, either your involvement with groups dedicated to those purposes or your direct actions in support of those purposes. So you can be a dyed in the wool communist and as long as you've never personally engaged in terrorism or other violent political activity or been a member of a group dedicated to such purposes you're fine. Wouldn't recommend being a member of Hezbollah though.
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cubivore posted:Uhhhh I have a lot of foreign family and friends I often interact with. And I was openly sort of a mega anti-America socialist during my teenage years. Plus I think some of my family may be criminals. And I went to a psychologist one time. My father is a foreign national (and the rest of that side of the family too, obviously). It will make your initial clearance/interview a huge pain in the rear end, but it's not disqualifying as long as you're up front about it. Retarded teenage political activity isn't disqualifying unless you called for violence against the government or sent money to a foreign political party, and even then you could probably get away with, "I was 17 and stupid." Going to a psychologist is almost always fine as long as whatever you went for is resolved or being effectively treated. The criminal thing is an "it depends." Mostly they'll be concerned with how close you are, whether it's ongoing, and more importantly whether you yourself have been involved in criminal activity. Their concern is that someone could use your family as a lever to get you to compromise information. If your great uncle joe is doing a dime for stealing cars, probably not an issue. If your parents are currently paying their mortgage by passing fraudulent checks, you may want to talk to a lawyer before your interview. On the balance, it's best to apply for the clearance and let them say yes or no. More people are accepted than not.
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On the criminality scale it'd probably lean more to the second option than the first, though I don't really interact with them and I'm not really sure what they're doing. It's just kind of more than a vague suspicion. My mother and her entire side of the family are pretty much crazy abusive fuckups - would they interview her/them or whatever they do? I'm pretty sure they'd try to paint me in as terrible a light as possible, and whether or not the poo poo they say is factual doesn't matter to them. That is kind of reassuring, though. And I've never been part of any violent groups and I don't think I've ever sent money to any. I was kind of worried you were screwing with me about previously being a socialist being a disqualifier, though I wouldn't be surprised.
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cubivore posted:That is kind of reassuring, though. And I've never been part of any violent groups and I don't think I've ever sent money to any. I was kind of worried you were screwing with me about previously being a socialist being a disqualifier, though I wouldn't be surprised. I definitely wasn't screwing with you. There is definitely a question that says "Are you now or have you ever been part of an Anti-Government organization (ie. Socialist Party)" on my initial entry paperwork. I joined a while ago, but well after the Cold War. (The "Are you a fag?" part was one lined on my paperwork, though.)
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poopkitty posted:I definitely wasn't screwing with you. There is definitely a question that says "Are you now or have you ever been part of an Anti-Government organization (ie. Socialist Party)" on my initial entry paperwork. cubivore posted:On the criminality scale it'd probably lean more to the second option than the first, though I don't really interact with them and I'm not really sure what they're doing. It's just kind of more than a vague suspicion. quote:My mother and her entire side of the family are pretty much crazy abusive fuckups - would they interview her/them or whatever they do? I'm pretty sure they'd try to paint me in as terrible a light as possible, and whether or not the poo poo they say is factual doesn't matter to them. VVV Also, listen to this man: ManMythLegend posted:The best advice for those going for a clearance is to just be 100% honest about everything on the SF-86, especially the stuff you think is shady and or problematic. Unless you did something super crazy it will probably be ok as long as you are honest. It proves you're trustworthy. Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 14:15 on May 22, 2014 |
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May 22, 2014 06:56
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What you think you can get shouldn't matter, you should at least try. Basically they don't want someone who is a Manning or a Snowden, and if you look at their backgrounds you're not going to find foreign family members with criminal connections. Basically, if you believe that you yourself are a trustworthy person then you at least have a chance. As a CTN, I'm going to tell you to try to get CTN. It's a good job.
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The best advice for those going for a clearance is to just be 100% honest about everything on the SF-86, especially the stuff you think is shady and or problematic. Unless you did something super crazy it will probably be ok as long as you are honest. It proves you're trustworthy.
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May 22, 2014 11:36
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Well my dependent waiver for three got accepted and the last thing they want is proof of finances. Got to print out a bank statement showing my savings and checking. This seems like a lot of effort to join the navy reserves. Oh well.
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May 22, 2014 17:05
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Okay I'll try for a top secret then. Putting it out all forward does sound kind of dumb, I guess I've never done anything that's a big deal. And yeah I'm almost certain I don't want nuke. I'll look into CTN. Any other suggestions? What do you guys think about AC?
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May 22, 2014 18:13
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Bradley Manning got one. It's not cosmic.
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May 22, 2014 18:50
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holocaust bloopers posted:Bradley Manning got one. It's not cosmic. On the other hand, a friend of mine had his wife get denied one because her ex-husband foreclosed on a house after she had her name taken off of it and spent the next two years fighting to get another review
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Booblord Zagats posted:On the other hand, a friend of mine had his wife get denied one because her ex-husband foreclosed on a house after she had her name taken off of it and spent the next two years fighting to get another review One of my protégés got denied because her folks had an exchange student from HK when she was little. She went in to be a CTI, now she's an MA on the gate. Poor kid.
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poopkitty posted:One of my protégés got denied because her folks had an exchange student from HK when she was little. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
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cubivore posted:My recruiter's pushing hard for nuke and I really don't think I wanna do that because I'm poo poo at math and so it sounds like it'd be poo poo for me. I'm not trying to push you towards nuke but your reason is flawed. Assume you take a several week long math class on what you never learned in highschool. Do you possess the potential to learn how to solve the following math questions, given a calculator? cos(0.4)*10 = ? ln(5) = ? 5+3*2/2^2 = ? 10^x = 2, x = ? Congrats. Nuke school isn't really about math. You learn highschool level arithmetic (addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division), geometry (surface areas and volumes of simple shapes), and algebra with the bare minimum basics of trigonometry (how to type sin, cos, tan and their inverses into a calculator). You will also learn what an exponent is and what a square root is. You will learn how to apply thumbrules to word problems. You will learn how to type logarithms into a calculator.
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So I am early in the process of joining up with the Army right now and the recruiters I have spoken to in my town have been giving me some strange vibes as though they aren't being entirely truthful about my opportunities (imagine that) and I cannot seem to get a straight answer from any of the internet research I have done. The biggest issue right now is that both recruiters have told me that I am disqualified from OCS or kind of security clearance because of a DWI in 2011 in which I plead guilty and complied with all of the courts orders on going to the evals and classes and such and it was eventually purged and they even let me off probation like 3 months early because I literally followed ever single demand of the State down to the letter and didn't cause a single bit of poo poo the whole time. This DWI has been my only run in with the law ever (I didn't even get a detention all through k-12 for gently caress's sake). The recruiters have said I would have to wait a total of 7 years since the time of the charge before I can even think about special forces, psyops, ranger school, or literally anything else that needs a clearance of any level. I've got a 4-year degree plus graduate work at NYU which I managed to maintain a 3.6 GPA throughout. I got something like an 86 on the practice ASVAB that the recruiter made me take (I take the real thing in a few weeks) and, as I said before, have literally had my nose clean for drat near my whole life. Something about that doesn't seem right considering all of the DoD clearance cases I have read from the link in the OP, but maybe they are right. Do any goons out there have any further information that might help settle this for me?
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PilotOfTheStorm posted:So I am early in the process of joining up with the Army right now and the recruiters I have spoken to in my town have been giving me some strange vibes as though they aren't being entirely truthful about my opportunities (imagine that) and I cannot seem to get a straight answer from any of the internet research I have done. Are these recruiters Officer recruiters or Enlisted recruiters? Some of the dudes that enlist people try and trick others that qualify for commissions. I know that as far as security clearances go, for some of the DWIs they do a background check to see if you're a risk/treatment failure/whatever. Sometimes a DODCAF is requested and people are set up for an appointment to see a specialist for them to convene. Just keep trying to go to OCS, the recruiter isn't the final person to approve someone joining.
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Pandasmores posted:Are these recruiters Officer recruiters or Enlisted recruiters? Some of the dudes that enlist people try and trick others that qualify for commissions. I know that as far as security clearances go, for some of the DWIs they do a background check to see if you're a risk/treatment failure/whatever. Sometimes a DODCAF is requested and people are set up for an appointment to see a specialist for them to convene. Just keep trying to go to OCS, the recruiter isn't the final person to approve someone joining. They do both at the "Armed Forces Career Center" in my town as far as I know. The thought had crossed my mind that perhaps I need to talk to someone who specifically does officer commissions but I haven't been able to find anything except that same place in all my searches of the local area. All the recruiter did was run my prints and it came back with a single arrest in 2011 and he basically told me that I shouldn't even try for a clearance because I can't get one for another like 4 years and his Staff Sergeant reiterated this on my second visit. EDIT: I should probably add that when I asked for information packets on OCS from the army site, it emailed the local recruiters I have been talking to and gave them the info to get in touch with me. PilotOfTheStorm fucked around with this message at 20:31 on May 24, 2014 |
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