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Iron Leg posted:congrats! how far up north? bay area or seattle? Vancouver/Seattle area.
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Brackhar posted:Riot is a great place to work. I'd highly recommend it to anyone. Congrats Brackypants! Edit: It's Ken, I change my account stuff up a lot.
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May 17, 2014 01:52
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LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:Congrats Brackypants! It's confusing! What are you up to these days, anyway?
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May 17, 2014 01:54
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Brackhar posted:It's confusing! I work in the elusive internet industry now. Community managerish stuff. Turning weaknesses into strengths and all that jazz. Hope stuff works out awesomely for ya, just poking my head in. Edit: The only thing that would get me back in the industry would be working on a fighting game or a writing gig, probably. Where I am is pretty nice. 
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Brackhar posted:That being said, today is an interesting day. After five years at Riot today will be my last day at the company. I'm leaving to take a design director position at a new studio up north, which has basically been my dream since I got into the industry. It's a risk, but one I'm really excited about! I know I've not posted in this thread too much as of late, but thanks to everyone here who supported me when I was first trying to get into the industry. It was advice from an earlier version of this thread that got me my internship at Riot those many years ago, and were it not for the help of peeps like Shalinor I never would have the opportunity I do now. Thanks guys. And congrats on making the risky play. Those are always The Best. They can be The Worst too, but you'll never find The Best unless you try 'em. My little indie venture will be in Poulsbo, WA next year, so uh... maybe there's a ferry from Kitsap over to where you'll be? No idea. You need to convince them to move their studio down to that "hub" that's building around the ferry terminal in downtown. Seems like ALL the indies are down there these days, along with Amazon and a ton of others.
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Brackhar posted:Vancouver/Seattle area. If you're in the Seattle area, we definitely need to meet up again.
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Brackhar posted:Riot is a great place to work. I'd highly recommend it to anyone. Congrats man! I hope it works out well for you.
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Jumping into the ether is terrifying. Good on you for trying it and I hope it works out the best.
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Brackhar posted:Riot is a great place to work. I'd highly recommend it to anyone. Congrats! I remember those old posts, crazy to think it's been five years.
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May 19, 2014 06:22
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icking fudiot posted:Congrats! I remember those old posts, crazy to think it's been five years. Yeah, time really flies in this industry. 
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wodin posted:League is doing very well and I have huge admiration for their senior leadership, so assuming your friend can meet the performance requirements it should be stable place to work. Brackhar posted:Riot is a great place to work. I'd highly recommend it to anyone. Thanks guys! Also good luck Brackhar!
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May 19, 2014 08:59
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Jeff Vogel is killing it this month: http://jeff-vogel.blogspot.ca/2014/05/the-indie-bubble-is-popping.html (His last one on free to play set so many hackles on edge, it was great!)
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So I mentioned having employment, but never said what. I'm now working on a lot of the day-to-day and marketing operations for the speedrun charity marathon SGDQ, and that might extend that into AGDQ. It's been pretty awesome and I'm really happy to be working with an awesome community for an event I already loved  .Also if anyone its going to be at E3 myself and a couple other 'GDQ guys will be there. (Also if any press goons are around I'd love to talk)
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May 22, 2014 03:56
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devilmouse posted:Jeff Vogel is killing it this month: http://jeff-vogel.blogspot.ca/2014/05/the-indie-bubble-is-popping.html This is especially the case when what's been happening more and more lately is that established figures from successful commercial titles have been going indie and racking up a bunch of funding through Kickstarter, using their reputation for the marketing push baby puzzle posted:Is there a magic potion that forces designers to think about multiplayer?
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May 22, 2014 05:36
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Artists, please learn how to use your version control software. I'm running out of quicklime.
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devilmouse posted:Jeff Vogel is killing it this month: http://jeff-vogel.blogspot.ca/2014/05/the-indie-bubble-is-popping.html So I read this and I've been thinking about it and as someone who exists in that middle-ground space for the most part the only real conclusion I can reach from it is this: "Oh. Ok."
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May 22, 2014 07:20
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Tricky Ed posted:Artists, please learn how to use your version control software. Hahaha. My favorite thing from artists was the merge of over a gig worth of files with the entire description being 'updated texture'. My least favorite thing from artists was the update that made the game smaller with the description 'update'
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May 22, 2014 08:17
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Tricky Ed posted:Artists, please learn how to use your version control software. I think our artists would have a fit if they understood just how good programmer workflow is with git etc. I commit locally like once an hour, and my branches are backed up remotely. The chances of me losing work and time are pretty remote (unless I hard reset something stupidly or whatever). Also we can merge! And view differences! And see who did what! Artists, however, are constantly saving off temp versions of files all over the place on their machines. We use perforce for assets, which doesn't provide anything nearly as nice (shelves are crap). Changes are stomped left and right as people aren't careful about checking in. The worst thing is that a lot of people don't work defensively against things going wrong. People work for hours without even saving.
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Sion posted:Hahaha. There's a perforce option to remove unchanged files from a commit, and I'm not convinced that doing that for the whole company would not help some of these crazy multi-thousand file merges. We're lucky enough to have artists who have worked in the industry long enough (and short enough!) that they're familiar with source control.
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The secret to source control and artists is to have a draconian sysadmin who (ab)uses the hell out of p4 triggers, typemaps, and so on. Checking in binary files? They're exclusive checkout only. A space in a file name or a capitalized character? Commit rejected!
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devilmouse posted:A space in a file name or a capitalized character? Commit rejected! Seeing this made my breath catch in my throat - I want this, so bad.
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May 22, 2014 15:56
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devilmouse posted:The secret to source control and artists is to have a draconian sysadmin who (ab)uses the hell out of p4 triggers, typemaps, and so on. 
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Aliginge posted:If anybody in the UK is reading this, I am hearing some really good things about Abertay University up here in Dundee compared to Teesside where I graduated, from a friend of mine up here doing his Masters. Lots more mixed group work, actual devkits, actual games being made and Dundee Dare games festival in the town centre showing off actual student games actually for realsies. Dundee's fine if you think you can learn games in school. You will however end up in QA unless you're an awesome coder or artist. I mentored about 12 groups at Abertay year before last. For the most part their attitudes left much to be desired. The community hasn't been great for the last few years since we (RTW) exploded but if you want to work in mobile you should be ok.
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superh posted:Seeing this made my breath catch in my throat - I want this, so bad. Trigger scripts are pretty easy to setup. Hassle whoever admins your Perforce! They make life so so much better. Shalinor posted:GIT We made that mistake once a few years ago, trying to have artists in a DVCS. Never again! Code in git, assets in P4. It's lovely for branching, but it's a far better world than them constantly mucking up the treet. "I didn't make any changes to code. Reverted!" "Yes, I want to push, I know what I'm doing, so force it!" And on and on and on.
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Buckwheat Sings posted:Is Riot a nice place to work at? Is it stable? Friend of mine is curious. A Riot employee did a piece on working at Riot over at reddit a few weeks back: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/20ivqv/the_hard_realities_of_working_at_riot_games/. Make if it what you will. All in all, the vibe I got was that it's a truly awful place to work if you have a family or any kind of personal life outside work, or if you like things like professionalism and good management. On the other hand, it sounds like an absolute dream for a childless 20-something. It sounds like the kind of place I would have loved ten years ago, but would drive me insane today. Geisladisk fucked around with this message at 16:56 on May 22, 2014 |
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Geisladisk posted:A Riot employee did a piece on working at Riot over at reddit a few weeks back: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/20ivqv/the_hard_realities_of_working_at_riot_games/. Make if it what you will. Whoa that reddit link makes the place sound kinda nuts. But isn't it just a lure for people who just had a rotten time there or just want to bitch about the game? Or possibly similar to glassdoor review sites which attract discontented workers while happier ones wouldn't even bother? With that said there's some truth in what's posted there I think even though it reads like a honeypot.
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Studio posted:So I mentioned having employment, but never said what. I'm now working on a lot of the day-to-day and marketing operations for the speedrun charity marathon SGDQ, and that might extend that into AGDQ. It's been pretty awesome and I'm really happy to be working with an awesome community for an event I already loved Very cool dude! I'll get you in touch with the senior editor at Big Shiny Robot for an interview. Check your messages! Buckwheat Sings posted:Whoa that reddit link makes the place sound kinda nuts. But isn't it just a lure for people who just had a rotten time there or just want to bitch about the game? Or possibly similar to glassdoor review sites which attract discontented workers while happier ones wouldn't even bother? If you'd like to chat over Skype or something about my experiences at Riot I'd be happy to. I still think Riot is a great place to work, though no company is perfect.
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Brackhar posted:If you'd like to chat over Skype or something about my experiences at Riot I'd be happy to. I still think Riot is a great place to work, though no company is perfect. I don't have messages but you can reach me at jjbuckwheat for Skype
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devilmouse posted:A space in a file name or a capitalized character? Commit rejected! Ugh, our artist took the initiative of creating the source assets folder in Perforce. Guess what it's called? "Art Source"! I cringe every time I have to deal with the path in a client spec. I'm going to have put an asset freeze in place to rename that sooner than later.
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Buckwheat Sings posted:I don't have messages but you can reach me at jjbuckwheat for Skype Get online. 
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Tricky Ed posted:Artists, please learn how to use your version control software. what is quicklime? I'm assuming it's a margarita mix for all the drinking that bad P4 submits leads to?
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Sigma-X posted:what is quicklime? I'm assuming it's a margarita mix for all the drinking that bad P4 submits leads to? It's what you use to hide the bodies.
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Sigma-X posted:what is quicklime? I'm assuming it's a margarita mix for all the drinking that bad P4 submits leads to? It's a very strong industrial chemical traditionally used to render down bodies for easy disposal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_oxide if you're curious about more details.
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baby puzzle posted:I think our artists would have a fit if they understood just how good programmer workflow is with git etc. I commit locally like once an hour, and my branches are backed up remotely. The chances of me losing work and time are pretty remote (unless I hard reset something stupidly or whatever). Also we can merge! And view differences! And see who did what! The crazy thing for me is just how often huge industry standard art software crashes. If Visual Studio crashed a tenth as often as Maya there would be rioting in the streets.
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The killer for me with art creation tools is how revision control simply does not exist as a concept. You typically have an undo buffer, but that's wiped out whenever you close the file. The only way to experiment and try something new without losing old work is to save as a new file and deal with the hassle all of that generates. How much cooler would it be if Photoshop had git-style branches where you could fork off at any point in time and click around in a tree view at will to compare revisions? Only program I've seen that gets close to this is Lightroom, you can create virtual copies of any image and make edits without destroying any data.
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BabelFish posted:The crazy thing for me is just how often huge industry standard art software crashes. If Visual Studio crashed a tenth as often as Maya there would be rioting in the streets. This. I never hear programmers complaining about application instability, but then again our art programs are pretty resource heavy, I think most programming software is only intensive on cpu/ram during build or whatever. Maya is just a bitch. xzzy posted:The killer for me with art creation tools is how revision control simply does not exist as a concept. You typically have an undo buffer, but that's wiped out whenever you close the file. The only way to experiment and try something new without losing old work is to save as a new file and deal with the hassle all of that generates. ZBrush has this now with it's undo history but it's still a limited amount of undos (10-15k range) which you can save out with the ztool itself which is pretty handy. I still like to keep seperate ztool iterations because I like to manually control my iterations that way I can tell which ones I may or may not go back to.
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I don't know what programmers you're talking to, because I sure as hell hate Visual Studio, but it's the least of all evils that I've found. It's been gradually getting better, but I can just about crash it on demand working in UE3, and there's a decent chance it will occasionally decide to crash for no good reason at all and eat all of my carefully set up customization.
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I'm in a small office with a couple programmers and it's definitely the artists that flip their poo poo out over crashes more than programmers. Maybe programmers have more tolerance for dumb poo poo happening because they know why it happens or something, whereas artists usually just blame it on the overall producers of the software.
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