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A human heart posted:Brainticket actually rules but you seem to be treating it like you would normal prog rock when it's leaning towards the ambient side of krautrock which might be the problem. Cottonwood Hill is definitely better than the later albums though. True, a more ambient psychedelic album was not what I was expecting when I bought it based on the description of "concept album about a pharaoh's trip through the afterlife", but that album just isn't good. But speaking of prog guilty pleasures, pretty much anything by The Tangent. Melodically satisfying, but the lyrics (combined with the singer's voice) just sound like a poor-man's latter days Ian Anderson.
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Misogynist posted:The most surreal thing about this album was when Talib Kweli and Norah Jones sampled it and hit #2 on the Billboard album charts. Prog samples (especially obscure prog samples) are popular because it's a genre of music that hasn't been mined to death (and doesn't distract the listener by reminding them of another song instead of the song they're listening to).
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May 20, 2014 13:04
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In that vein, I did a triple take when I was listening to Gentle Giant's debut and realized that Funny Ways was sampled on Madvillainy.
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May 20, 2014 13:18
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Henchman of Santa posted:In that vein, I did a triple take when I was listening to Gentle Giant's debut and realized that Funny Ways was sampled on Madvillainy. That's a great song (both of them are, really) and it's just further proof of how much of a nerdlord Madlib is (other than J Dilla and some Soulquarians stuff, Madlib is the only guy that samples Gentle Giant and he does it pretty regularly)
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May 20, 2014 13:33
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On an unrelated note, anyone who wants some Mars Volta wannabe action might want to check out the new Closure in Moscow album. They used to be more on the post-hardcore/alt rock end of the spectrum with as many obvious Fall of Troy/Coheed influences as TMV, but they've gone full prog now.
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May 20, 2014 13:56
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alnilam posted:^^^^ this reminds me, here's a fun topic I was thinking of: I would definitely put early Glass Hammer in this category (later Glass Hammer is also awesome, but it's much more well made)
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May 20, 2014 15:06
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Pink Floyd have had a website with a countdown going that just hit zero. It's nothing special, just a ridiculous 7-disc 1-LP boxset of The Division Bell with a bunch of art prints and poo poo that'll cost too much money. Ain't even a prog album.
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May 20, 2014 15:12
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I don't really want to hear 6 discs of material that wasn't good enough for Division Bell. Sorry
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May 20, 2014 15:47
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alnilam posted:^^^^ this reminds me, here's a fun topic I was thinking of: Pretty much anything any 70s prog band did in the 80s is either a guilty pleasure for me, or something that I just have have to shut off out of embarrassment. It's funny, because I have no problem blasting ELP's Karn Evil 9 for everyone to hear, but find myself turning down Invisible Touch so that no one knows I'm listening to it, even though I like the album. I went through a Spock's Beard phase, and they were on my guilty pleasure list too for awhile. To the guy that mentioned Hawkwind's "You Shouldn't Do That", wtf? I blast this song loudly and proudly and even played it on my radio show. It kick's rear end.
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May 20, 2014 15:59
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Nobody Interesting posted:Pink Floyd have had a website with a countdown going that just hit zero. It's nothing special, just a ridiculous 7-disc 1-LP boxset of The Division Bell with a bunch of art prints and poo poo that'll cost too much money. This seems to be the thing to do nowadays. Peter Gabriel did it with his So box set, King Crimson with their In the Court box set, and I think Pink Floyd did this with The Wall. Division Bell is a strange choice. It's a good album don't get me wrong, but certainly not one I'd pick for a 7 disc box set.
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Good stuff people, keep it coming!UniqueLikeMonique posted:Van Der Graf Generator albums are not something to blast at work. My manager said he'd prefer gangsta rap over Hammill! I am not guilty at all about loving Van der Graaf, I think they're legit awesome. Though I agree I wouldn't blast Van der Graaf at work, but then again I wouldn't blast a lot of prog at work.
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May 20, 2014 16:03
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I would blast Magma at work, if blasting music in the office was something I did.
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Seventh Arrow posted:I would blast Magma at work, if blasting music in the office was something I did. One time my friends challenged me to a "weird music off" where me and another friend each got 5 pieces to play. I won handily, and Magma was voted as "overall weirdest" because I explained how it's sung in an invented language of a distant planet that humans have gone to after disaster on earth etc etc. When I explained this and how every Magma album is this way, they were all  I think some of my other choices were something by Ligeti, an excerpt of probably Aumng or some similar weird Can piece, Lieber Hoenig (Neu!). alnilam fucked around with this message at 16:53 on May 20, 2014 |
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May 20, 2014 16:50
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Henchman of Santa posted:In that vein, I did a triple take when I was listening to Gentle Giant's debut and realized that Funny Ways was sampled on Madvillainy. How's this: A few years ago, De La Soul sampled "Ritual" from Topographic oceans. I flipped when I heard that. The bouncy "la la la la" that Jon sings after the intro. e: all I want is the 5.1 mix of Division Bell. I don't want all the extra stuff. Tull already got me with Aqualung, and I don't put this album on that level. Just release the blu ray by itself, people! jeez...
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May 20, 2014 18:55
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Kanye did a terrible sample of 21st century schizoid man. It's not that it's terribly out of place, it's just very poorly cut/executed. The weird thing is, I know the guy knows how to sample well. Why is this one so bad?
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May 20, 2014 19:03
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I don't even like Kanye and I was excited to hear Power when it came out. Then I realized he doesn't use the main riff or even the verses, which could be used to great effect with a good beat. Why bother?
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May 20, 2014 19:11
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Just heard PH7 by Peter Hammill and love it. I am head over heels with that guy and his work and have been purchasing solo and VDGG albums any chance I can afford 'em. I love how Hammill sounds like he'd be the stereotypical pompous shithead a la Robert Fripp but all of his lyrical themes and interpretations of life are so modest and humble. Particularly heartwarming is his song "Handicap and Equality" which is simply one of the most humanitarian songs I've ever heard. He's slowly moving up there with Gabriel as my favorite prog rock singer.
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May 20, 2014 19:38
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Modest and humble? Isn't "Man-Erg" sung from the point of view of a serial killer?
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May 20, 2014 19:47
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Seventh Arrow posted:Modest and humble? Isn't "Man-Erg" sung from the point of view of a serial killer? A lot of the early VDGG stuff focuses more fantastical stuff, but from Godbluff onward for VDGG and Chameleon onward for Hammill solo, the guy tackles a lot existential and personal issues about being human. In one of my favorites "No More Submariner" I'm pretty sure Hammill is saying that as children our brains give us a feeling of "freedom" that slowly decreases as we get older. As kids we use toys to pretend we're fighting wars and get to be a lot of different occupations but when we're grown we're only allotted a few roles and that's it. I'm probably unsophisticated but to me that's some pretty deep poo poo, man.
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May 20, 2014 20:13
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I was somewhat put off by Power's samples when it first hit, but I really like it, especially in the album's context.
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May 20, 2014 21:42
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alnilam posted:Kanye did a terrible sample of 21st century schizoid man. It's deliberate. Henchman of Santa posted:I don't even like Kanye and I was excited to hear Power when it came out. Then I realized he doesn't use the main riff or even the verses, which could be used to great effect with a good beat. Why bother? Because that's just not how sampling works.
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May 21, 2014 17:28
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I think "Power" is a totally decent song, and that sample doesn't bother me. I think a bigger Kanye prog (or Kraut, I guess) misstep is reworking "Sing Swan Song" by CAN into "Drunk and Hot Girls": "Sing Swan Song" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFr0Ok7mCQk "Drunk and Hot Girls" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxc_UjtVpsw
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May 21, 2014 21:23
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Declan MacManus posted:It's deliberate. Do you... care to elaborate?
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May 21, 2014 21:36
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Please don't ask me how I found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gp7RANAX3A
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Noise Machine posted:Please don't ask me how I found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gp7RANAX3A When I was in the 9th grade, I loved to change guitars and bass in midis to cellos and tuba, and imagine how cool it would be if this band played this song with an orchestra at some point. This mix, though, I don't understand.
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Noise Machine posted:Please don't ask me how I found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gp7RANAX3A Ahahahaha, I'm dying.
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May 22, 2014 07:48
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN7k8rutLTY
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Rollersnake posted:Ahahahaha, I'm dying. I didn't even GET to the sax "solo". Oh my lord.
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As hilarious as it is, it's... kind of impressive that someone basically midi'd out the entirety of Schizoid. Didn't turn out to be a worthwhile endeavour, of course, but it's still an impressive feat. Same with that 8-bit passion play, which is awesome. fakeedit: omg 5:35 
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alnilam posted:As hilarious as it is, it's... kind of impressive that someone basically midi'd out the entirety of Schizoid. I'm actually really impressed with the drum programming, even the stuff he approximated (I almost typed s/he to not be sexist but let's be honest no women would ever make this) sounds pretty appropriate for the song. and 6:58 is where it's at. 
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alnilam posted:Do you... care to elaborate? I mean I'm not sure what to tell you here, it's blown out and the EQ is cut so it sits in the mix better and the drum fill is there because why not Noise Machine posted:I'm actually really impressed with the drum programming, even the stuff he approximated (I almost typed s/he to not be sexist but let's be honest no women would ever make this) sounds pretty appropriate for the song. The drum programming is actually really spot on, lol
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Declan MacManus posted:I mean I'm not sure what to tell you here, it's blown out and the EQ is cut so it sits in the mix better and the drum fill is there because why not The EQ is fine, I don't think that makes it a good or even skillful sample - the timing and tempo are horribly off from the surrounding music, among other things. Again, I'm not saying "lol Kanye sucks," in fact I'm all the more confused that the sample is so glaringly bad considering the guy usually knows how to sample pretty well.
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Power is a rather gritty song, and I think it's supposed to be a jarring, attention grabbing transition to the chorus.
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Noise Machine posted:Please don't ask me how I found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gp7RANAX3A I'll clear everyone's brain now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kSJIHtOeY
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You mean depress us. They're like a third of my age and they play better than I ever will.
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Allen Wren posted:You mean depress us. They're like a third of my age and they play better than I ever will.
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Misogynist posted:Being a third your age is really the key. It's easy to practice eight hours a day when you don't have anything else you have to do. I still don't understand how 12 year olds can practise so much to produce a cover of a King Crimson song that is almost indistinguishable from the original. When I was their age I used my eight hours a day outside of school and sleep playing video games. Ooo, I really should have got Volume 1 of The Collectable King Crimson earlier. I never get tired of their variations on 'Easy Money'.
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If you read the comments, it appears that the kids weren't even a band three weeks prior, and they started rehearsing Schizoid Man just three days before that performance.
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Laputanmachine posted:If you read the comments, it appears that the kids weren't even a band three weeks prior, and they started rehearsing Schizoid Man just three days before that performance. And there's Monday's depression-bomb, too! Thanks, thread.
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Misogynist posted:Being a third your age is really the key. It's easy to practice eight hours a day when you don't have anything else you have to do. Practice and build your skills when you're young and then maintain them when you're older and have stuff to do E: Also those are the School of Rock All-Stars, those kids are pretty much virtuosos who are groomed into tiny Zappa bands in terms of versatility
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