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TinTower posted:One of my major issues with voting Green is their HS2 opposition, actually. The science and nuclear policy, I can have confidence will eventually come around to acceptability. I fear that the HS2 policy will stay because of the power of the North London liberal intelligensia. given the Greens won't be in power after then 2015 election, hopefully HS2 will have passed the point of no return before they ever do.
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Broniki posted:What the gently caress is wrong with Dundee?
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TinTower posted:One of my major issues with voting Green is their HS2 opposition, actually. The science and nuclear policy, I can have confidence will eventually come around to acceptability. I fear that the HS2 policy will stay because of the power of the North London liberal intelligensia. I'm all for the idea of a high-speed rail linking London with the north but HS2 is just terrible. It goes ALL THE WAY TO LEEDS!!! I mean come on, you'd think they'd at least connect London to Edinburgh but as it stands it barely covers half the country. I'm also seriously sceptical about putting a ton of money into something like that while local rail networks on the periphery (Wales, the North-East etc) are so woefully inadquate. Just screams to me 'London's getting a big new showpiece/toy for the rich' more than anything else.
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May 22, 2014 21:10
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Broniki posted:The situation with the Greens lately reminds me of the Lib Dems at the general election. Every young adult with an internet connection was apparently voting for them but LOL no they got nowt, what happened. not sure if you've noticed but they're actually running the country so I would hardly call that nowt la. Also the green situation is nowhere near Cleggmania. Nobody is really hyping the greens in the press because they will forever be a joke until they stop being democratic and letting ridiculous twats have actual sway. You know, like UKIP but less voteable for the general public. I think at this point everyone is voting for them out of a lack of options, not any real sense of optimism.
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May 22, 2014 21:15
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JFairfax posted:I don't understand people who have put who they're voting for online or on social media. Yeah, because 'voted for TUSC & Yorkshire First' is going to be the decider on my file, not the fact that I'm disabled, diabetic, 'genetically inferior', mentally broken, or trans.  Lets face facts, I'm already winner #1 for willy wonker's magical concentration camp tour. (at least the queue for the showers will be short)
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May 22, 2014 21:16
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loving eurostar doesnt even work properly still, chugs along normal trainspeeds until you hit france and then weeee! Thats really cool btw (once you are in france)
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Cerv posted:given the Greens won't be in power after then 2015 election, hopefully HS2 will have passed the point of no return before they ever do. I'm concerned that there'll be so much aggravation over Phase 2 that a "responsive and responsible" government would cancel it. ThomasPaine posted:I'm all for the idea of a high-speed rail linking London with the north but HS2 is just terrible. It goes ALL THE WAY TO LEEDS!!! I mean come on, you'd think they'd at least connect London to Edinburgh but as it stands it barely covers half the country. I'm also seriously sceptical about putting a ton of money into something like that while local rail networks on the periphery (Wales, the North-East etc) are so woefully inadquate. Just screams to me 'London's getting a big new showpiece/toy for the rich' more than anything else. HS2 will have services that use the W/ECML, though: three per hour after Phase 2 is completed, cutting up to an hour off journey times that use HS2. And trust me, I'm more angry at London getting the infinite pot of money for infrastructure that only benefits them (Thameslink, Crossrail, Crossrail 2, Northern line extension, ELL extension, etc), while it takes a rape on the platform to get the worst-maintained station in the country some new lights. SybilVimes posted:Yeah, because 'voted for TUSC & Yorkshire First' is going to be the decider on my file, not the fact that I'm disabled, diabetic, 'genetically inferior', mentally broken, or trans. Yorkshire First is pretty much a split from the Lib Dems; Stewart Arnold was the second on the Lib Dem list in 2009 and quit when he was passed over when his wife, Diana Wallis, resigned as an MEP. TinTower fucked around with this message at 21:21 on May 22, 2014 |
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ThomasPaine posted:I'm all for the idea of a high-speed rail linking London with the north but HS2 is just terrible. It goes ALL THE WAY TO LEEDS!!! I mean come on, you'd think they'd at least connect London to Edinburgh but as it stands it barely covers half the country. I'm also seriously sceptical about putting a ton of money into something like that while local rail networks on the periphery (Wales, the North-East etc) are so woefully inadquate. Just screams to me 'London's getting a big new showpiece/toy for the rich' more than anything else.  hs2 is proposed to go to newcastle, glasgow & edinburgh
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I never understood this Cleggmania bollocks, I always thought he was a prat, but I did vote for them in the last GE because they were promising voting reform and to be fair they did deliver the referendum, which then failed. After which they just became gimps to the Tories.
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May 22, 2014 21:27
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sebzilla posted:Good to know for future leaflet-discarding reference, that's only about a three minute walk from me. Fancy a pint sometime? Sure. I can often be found at the Sandford Park Alehouse. Drop me a PM if you're bored some time.
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May 22, 2014 21:28
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Broniki posted:What the gently caress is wrong with Dundee? Dundonians
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May 22, 2014 21:37
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Seb, when's your band back in Reading again dude? Will be the beer bitch again, it was fun.
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I voted Green instead of TUSC/NO2EU solely because they might finish second in my ward/gain a single MEP. Tactical voting for a party you don't expect to win anyway is depressing.
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May 22, 2014 21:39
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TinTower posted:rape on the platform choosing this as the follow up single to murder on the dance floor probably wasn't the best career move Sophie Ellis-Bextor ever made
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Seaside Loafer posted:After which they just became gimps to the Tories. By the way, why is this pseudo-homophobia against the Lib Dems so popular? I mean, for gently caress's sake, I've had LGBT Labour members actually defend making immature homophobic jokes against Clegg, and one of my friends at Lib Dem Conference was subject to homophobic and transphobic abuse from the anti-austerity march. I mean, attack the bloke all you want, but don't resort to "hurr hurr dave's bum boy handcuffs and blindfolds" stuff.
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Voted No2EU. I admit I don't expect them to win, but I still voted for them in the hope that they'll get their deposit back, since it's a joint venture between the RMT, the Communist Party of Britain and a bunch of other nice groups who need the money for things like the Morning Star and supporting their members in industrial disputes. My commute takes me halfway across Edinburgh to the centre, and I saw loads of polling places with little sandwich boards outside with party signs on, and I met a lot of Green and a few Labour supporters, but I didn't see a single UKIP sign or meet anyone who claimed to be a UKIP supporter all day. Maybe they were tired of their billboards being torn down and decided not to bother with signs at ground level and in easy kicking range.
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Stottie Kyek posted:Voted No2EU. I admit I don't expect them to win, but I still voted for them in the hope that they'll get their deposit back, since it's a joint venture between the RMT, the Communist Party of Britain and a bunch of other nice groups who need the money for things like the Morning Star and supporting their members in industrial disputes. gently caress, I didn't think about that, I've probably deprived somebody of their livelihood now.
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TinTower posted:By the way, why is this pseudo-homophobia against the Lib Dems so popular? I mean, for gently caress's sake, I've had LGBT Labour members actually defend making immature homophobic jokes against Clegg, and one of my friends at Lib Dem Conference was subject to homophobic and transphobic abuse from the anti-austerity march. do you honestly believe people are espousing homophobia when calling people gimps? Was that scene in Pulp Fiction homophobic? I'm genuinely asking.
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Spangly A posted:do you honestly believe people are espousing homophobia when calling people gimps? People associate the gimp scene with violent homosexual anal rape, so, yeah, I think that the vast majority of people do associate gimps with gay people.
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May 22, 2014 21:58
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TinTower posted:By the way, why is this pseudo-homophobia against the Lib Dems so popular? I mean, for gently caress's sake, I've had LGBT Labour members actually defend making immature homophobic jokes against Clegg, and one of my friends at Lib Dem Conference was subject to homophobic and transphobic abuse from the anti-austerity march. You forget that we're not all SJWs.
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TinTower posted:People associate the gimp scene with violent homosexual anal rape, so, yeah, I think that the vast majority of people do associate gimps with gay people. I don't think either Zed or Marcellus Wallace were gay though.
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TinTower posted:People associate the gimp scene with violent homosexual anal rape, so, yeah, I think that the vast majority of people do associate gimps with gay people. Really? I just associate it with BDSM in general.
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If every invocation of "straight fight" since 1983 is homophobic, then all the gimp/anal sex jokes since 2010 definitely are. Remember that the Guardian literally published slash fiction after the Rose Garden press conference.
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TinTower posted:If every invocation of "straight fight" since 1983 is homophobic, then all the gimp/anal sex jokes since 2010 definitely are. I don't know what any of this means.
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May 22, 2014 22:02
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guy guys, it's okay, we can just go back to calling Nick Clegg David Cameron's bitch and all is right in the world.
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Pissflaps posted:I don't think either Zed or Marcellus Wallace were gay though. Why did Zed and Maynard keep a loving gimp, then?
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TinTower posted:Why did Zed and Maynard keep a loving gimp, then? gay for the stay
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TinTower posted:Why did Zed and Maynard keep a loving gimp, then? Was his gimp male? And was their relationship sexual?
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TinTower posted:Why did Zed and Maynard keep a loving gimp, then? who the gently caress cares?
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Dad won his tribunal case today. Atos Healthcare originally scored him 0 out of 15pts and said he was fit for work. The appeal raised him to 9 out of 15pts. Tribunal awarded him the full 15pts. What a loving waste of everyone's time.
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Nick Clegg is in an abusive relationship and is being gaslit by David Cameron
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TinTower posted:People associate the gimp scene with violent homosexual anal rape, so, yeah, I think that the vast majority of people do associate gimps with gay people. idk I've actually lived with BDSM workers and I sure as hell don't associate it with that, nor have I ever met anyone who associates it with anything other than "people who wear full body leather and playact slaves". Not even heard it being gay, let alone about rape. e; TinTower posted:Why did Zed and Maynard keep a loving gimp, then? not to take the piss but power fantasies tend to not really care about sexual identity politics
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WastedJoker posted:Dad won his tribunal case today. Glad it turned out ok in the end, now you and he can start to get over the trauma of the whole thing
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SybilVimes posted:Glad it turned out ok in the end, now you and he can start to get over the trauma of the whole thing Cheers! Radio Prune posted:I've never in my life associated gimps with homosexuals or homophobia, nor has anyone I've ever used the term around (and vice versa). This is the first I'm hearing of it I think Pulp Fiction brought gimp/gay association to the mainstream.
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May 22, 2014 22:09
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WastedJoker posted:I think Pulp Fiction brought gimp/gay association to the mainstream. 
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I went for the Socialist Labour Party. Pity they are anti-nuclear though.
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Seaside Loafer posted:I never understood this Cleggmania bollocks, I always thought he was a prat, but I did vote for them in the last GE because they were promising voting reform and to be fair they did deliver the referendum, which then failed. After which they just became gimps to the Tories. They delivered the worst referendum they could by choosing to form a coalition with the Tories, going with the AV variant that was basically booby trapped from the outset. A once in a lifetime opportunity to get the electoral reform they've been chasing for so long, and they basically punch themselves in the face
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