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I kinda feel like my post was ignored.Mans posted:And the protestors were just aimlessly surrounding a building from all sides and by chance just had enough molotovs to set it on fire and by chance most of the dead weren't actually shooting anyone.
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The Ukrainian crisis is intresting in many ways. One of the things it shows is how easy it easy it is to co-opt antifascism to further what is essentially an imperalistic agenda. The message seems to be" In order to protect us against fascism we need a strong leader with total control over the people." With friends like these, why even bother to bash the fash?
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Baudolino posted:The Ukrainian crisis is intresting in many ways. One of the things it shows is how easy it easy it is to co-opt antifascism to further what is essentially an imperalistic agenda. The message seems to be" In order to protect us against fascism we need a strong leader with total control over the people." With friends like these, why even bother to bash the fash? Let me introduce you to the "Anti-Fascist Protection Rampart"
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Nckdictator posted:Let me introduce you to the "Anti-Fascist Protection Rampart" Let me introduce you to "liberal democracy" http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/from-dictatorship-to-democracy-the-role-ex-nazis-played-in-early-west-germany-a-810207.html
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Mans posted:The actions that are ocurring in Ukraine are brutal enough that you can't dismiss the arbitrary violence and murder of civilians just because you support one of the sides. My support for the struggle against Assad will never make me go "heh, they were collaborators" whenever a video pops of Al-Nusra executing random people or bombing random buildings and declaring them "totally enemy headquarters". You can say that Al-Nusra is trying to kill everyone that doesn't accord to their version of the faith, because they're actually carrying out the systematic murder of those people. But the fire in Odessa doesn't seem to be part of a sustained and systemic pattern of violence, as opposed to the tragic escalation of a particular act of violence. And if you think it's the former, then I suggest you demonstrate it. Facts and distinctions matter in these situations. Baudolino posted:The Ukrainian crisis is intresting in many ways. One of the things it shows is how easy it easy it is to co-opt antifascism to further what is essentially an imperalistic agenda. The message seems to be" In order to protect us against fascism we need a strong leader with total control over the people." With friends like these, why even bother to bash the fash? BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 03:34 on May 18, 2014 |
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I'm glad we agree that West Germany was far too tolerant of former Nazis, I hope you don't think though that the Berlin Wall was really built for that reason.
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Just slow slow slow slow it down in Germany ^_^ (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jacobin posted:Just slow slow slow slow it down in Germany ^_^ WITH SOME BEATS
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Jacobin posted:WITH SOME BEATS
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With regards to ye olde "Gypsies are parasites" attitude, here's something interesting: A group of about 80 Roma from Kosovska Mitrovica set aside the aid they receive from the (Serbian) government due to their poverty, and donated it to flood relief. The Roma community from all over Europe donated a lot, particularly those from Sweden and Austria.
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my dad posted:With regards to ye olde "Gypsies are parasites" attitude, here's something interesting: Is there an article I can read about this?
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Rutkowski posted:Is there an article I can read about this? For the ones in Kosovska Mitrovica, here's an article in Serbian, you could probably use google translate for it. http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Drustvo/467479/Romi-iz-Kosovske-Mitrovice-socijalnu-pomoc-dali-ugrozenima-od-poplava (It's the first one I could find, there are probably better ones, but  )As for the Roma in the rest of Europe, it's stuff I've overheard on the news and from conversations with people.
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Thanks. I've started working more with the local Roma and the amount of poo poo they catch, the slurs refering to them as parasites and leeches, is kind of overwhelming(even though this city is pretty much the one in Sweden where they get the least flak). Gonna spread this article quite a bit and contact a few media people cause the one-sided reporting from the other side isn't helping. Seriously, our largest fascist party SD have two posters for the EU election that they spread around the country, one of them is to ban beggars and homeless from the rest of EU from entering Sweden.
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Rutkowski in which city do you live/work in? and what sort of work do you do?
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Zombiepop posted:Rutkowski in which city do you live/work in? and what sort of work do you do?
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England is voting in fascism as we speak.
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Nonsense posted:England is voting in fascism as we speak. ...expand on this for those of us not in England?
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SALT CURES HAM posted:...expand on this for those of us not in England? UKIP is winning the european elections there, I think.
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Kurtofan posted:UKIP is winning the european elections there, I think. NPR had a bit about the European Parliament elections this morning, in which UKIP expects to do decently as it's obscure-enough of an election that only the motivated and/or nuts (ie: UKIP voters) bother to vote in it (plus there may be heavy rains, depressing turnout even further).
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Captain_Maclaine posted:NPR had a bit about the European Parliament elections this morning, in which UKIP expects to do decently as it's obscure-enough of an election that only the motivated and/or nuts (ie: UKIP voters) bother to vote in it (plus there may be heavy rains, depressing turnout even further). There are also local council elections in England which have so far seen UKIP gain 80 seats, bringing their total to 102, with many councils left to declare.
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Nonsense posted:England is voting in fascism as we speak. Well technically xenophobic hard right reactionaries.
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Ardennes posted:Well technically xenophobic hard right reactionaries.
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Y-Hat posted:Weren't there some people from the BNP and EDL that jumped ship to the UKIP? Plus they have literal blackshirts from Britain First running escort duty for them. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 13:39 on May 23, 2014 |
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May 23, 2014 13:36
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Darth Walrus posted:Plus they have literal blackshirts from Britain First running escort duty for them.
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Turns out one of Jobbik's MEPs is a literal KGB/FSB informant  So much for patriotism.English article: http://budapestbeacon.com/featured-articles/spy-little-eye-russian-spy/
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Ah ha ha what the gently caress How does that even happen?
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Ah ha ha what the gently caress Jobbik is firmly in Putin's pocket. Russia supports a lot of nationalist movements in post-communist countries to further their own ends.
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Shes In Parties posted:Jobbik is firmly in Putin's pocket. Russia supports a lot of nationalist movements in post-communist countries to further their own ends. Granted, those parties still have a lot of local support for their own reasons.
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Shes In Parties posted:Jobbik is firmly in Putin's pocket. Russia supports a lot of nationalist movements in post-communist countries to further their own ends. Do you have any sources for this, hopefully something in English? Not attacking you just something I would like to read and share on Facebook.
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KomradeX posted:Do you have any sources for this, hopefully something in English? Not attacking you just something I would like to read and share on Facebook. It's been an open secret for ages (along with their Iranian backing), though it's only now that the Hungarian government has actually started investigating it. Here are some good sources in English: http://hungarianspectrum.wordpress.com/2014/04/13/jobbik-and-the-russian-connection-the-role-of-bela-kovacs/ http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141067/mitchell-a-orenstein/putins-western-allies (about Russian support for European nationalism more broadly)
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KomradeX posted:Do you have any sources for this, hopefully something in English? Not attacking you just something I would like to read and share on Facebook.
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Danish People's Party shaping up to become the big winner of our EU parliament election -_- No English links as of yet, but the exit polls place them at 23+%
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Front National will have more seats than the entirety of Sweden. Police open fire against youths in immigrant heavy Husby. Emil Hagberg, the leader of the nazi attack in Kärrtorp in December was released from jail. This day is today's society in a loving nutshell.
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On the other hand we got a feminist party, with a roma woman as their top candidate, into parliament. And The Greens got more votes than Moderaterna, that bodes well for the election later this year. But when you put it like this...  Rutkowski posted:Front National will have more seats than the entirety of Sweden.
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I want to apologize on behalf of my fascistic shithole of a country.
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haha Europe is seriously bringing fascism back after the 20th century. You guys are real stupid.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:haha Europe is seriously bringing fascism back after the 20th century. You guys are real stupid. I wish I had a good answer to give them.
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Rutkowski posted:I've gotten several calls tonight from relatives. They're asking me about possible countries to move to where fascism isn't growing. Luxembourg
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Kurtofan posted:Luxembourg That's because nobody who lives in Luxembourg is actually from Luxembourg.
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