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Right, but without sleeves you're just screwed. It's a super corner case, I realize.
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whydirt posted:So what happens if you acquire two Palianos or Aether Searchers in the same draft? Noting their colors or associated card is easy during the draft, but without marking them how would you know which is which in your deck? I guess you could roll a die or something to randomly determine which one it is when you play it? You can use any mana color named with either or search for either card. The card says "When AEther Searcher enters the battlefield, you may search your hand and/or library for a card with a name noted as you drafted cards named AEther Searcher." Paliano has similar language.
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whydirt posted:So what happens if you acquire two Palianos or Aether Searchers in the same draft? Noting their colors or associated card is easy during the draft, but without marking them how would you know which is which in your deck? I guess you could roll a die or something to randomly determine which one it is when you play it? You can name multiple cards, and then get the choice of which one to get when you cast each Aether Searcher. With Paliano, you'll end up with two lands that each tap for one of four colours. The key here is the phrasing "chosen as you drafted cards named..."
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I should have read more closely. That's pretty sweet then.
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Bugsy posted:I like quickling, and after not just glossing over it like I did last night it reminds me a lot more of Stonecloaker or Whitemane Lion than say Faerie Impostor. Yeah obviously the Flash is a big deal but this card is no better than Stonecloaker and likely a little worse.
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May 23, 2014 18:34
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Yeah, Quickling is a utility spell with the bonus of a flying bear attached to it. I guess you could go T1 Siren, T2 Quickling, and then have the Siren ready to bestow for the late game, but that's Xmas Land territory.
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May 23, 2014 18:41
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You will not be surprised to see that Wasteland has gone over $100 online following the reveal that its not in Vintage Masters.
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May 23, 2014 18:41
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Angry Grimace posted:You will not be surprised to see that Wasteland has gone over $100 online following the reveal that its not in Vintage Masters. Wow, it jumped $30 in a day. http://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Tempest/Wasteland#online
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May 23, 2014 18:44
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netcat posted:Wow, it jumped $30 in a day. http://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Tempest/Wasteland#online Ultimately, I think Wizards will just add more some other way, through the Legacy precons or through adding more Tempest drafting.
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Angry Grimace posted:You will not be surprised to see that Wasteland has gone over $100 online following the reveal that its not in Vintage Masters. 
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May 23, 2014 18:53
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neetengie posted:Thanks Wizards, I'll stick with Manaless Dredge or ANT as a budget deck for now. You say that like they're going to be high up for long. This all in reaction to the fact that people are trying to ditch them before a flood of new ones come in.
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Ramos posted:You say that like they're going to be high up for long. This all in reaction to the fact that people are trying to ditch them before a flood of new ones come in.
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whydirt posted:Yeah, Quickling is a utility spell with the bonus of a flying bear attached to it. I guess you could go T1 Siren, T2 Quickling, and then have the Siren ready to bestow for the late game, but that's Xmas Land territory. Yeah Quickling is a 2 of in a blue deck. Though it kills all of MoW's tokens, it also saves him from removal which would ALSO kill all his tokens.
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Guys, I just realized something. They're doing something they've never done before. They've never broken the Reserve List.  I wish.
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Ramos posted:You say that like they're going to be high up for long. This all in reaction to the fact that people are trying to ditch them before a flood of new ones come in. No, it's a reaction to the fact that more people will have access to vintage/legacy staples so the price is adjusted to meet a probably higher demand since Wasteland won't be in Vintage Masters.
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May 23, 2014 19:36
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Count Bleck posted:Guys, I just realized something. I know there was a selection system that made sense at the time, but now just reading through the list it all seems so arbitrary. Reprint Didgeridoo. Nothing else.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Yeah Quickling is a 2 of in a blue deck. Though it kills all of MoW's tokens, it also saves him from removal which would ALSO kill all his tokens. How did you come up with 2? I can come up with good reasons for a card to be a 0 (cut), 1(silver bullet), 3(wishboard), and 4(obv)-of without tuning and testing but 2 is a really aggressive number to just assert.
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redstormpopcorn posted:I know there was a selection system that made sense at the time, but now just reading through the list it all seems so arbitrary. Is there like some kind of thing in the books that makes a minotaur-summoning didgeridoo make sense or...?
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May 23, 2014 19:43
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change my name posted:Is there like some kind of thing in the books that makes a minotaur-summoning didgeridoo make sense or...? Homelands is a hell of a drug.
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Count Bleck posted:Guys, I just realized something. Finally, the Farmstead reprint that we all wanted. Joke aside, I doubt too many people would have an issue with a tweaked Reserved List, to allow for some less collectible cards to be reprinted or, at least, functionally reprinted. I'm not talking dual lands, or Power, but stuff like Roc of Kher Ridges, Mold Demon and such. I don't really see a 7-mana 6/6 with a downside tearing up formats any time soon for example. But that would kinda defeat the whole point of the List, so it's a whole 
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change my name posted:Is there like some kind of thing in the books that makes a minotaur-summoning didgeridoo make sense or...? Digeridoos are awesome. Minotaurs are awesome. Minotaurs like digeridoos. (No I have no idea why that card does that thing.)
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change my name posted:Is there like some kind of thing in the books that makes a minotaur-summoning didgeridoo make sense or...? Supposedly it was originally going to summon ferrets (which makes just as much sense) and minotaurs would come out of Dark Maze, but then I guess R&D had a rough weekend and now we have minotaurs who really dig world fusion.
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May 23, 2014 19:47
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Zoness posted:How did you come up with 2? I can come up with good reasons for a card to be a 0 (cut), 1(silver bullet), 3(wishboard), and 4(obv)-of without tuning and testing but 2 is a really aggressive number to just assert. It was a complete shot in the dark. I'm not 100% up to date on standard but I'm guess monoblue already has a strong 2 drop slot? Frostburn weird or something? Either it was just a shot in the dark, because I don't really think 4 copies would be super great but 
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redstormpopcorn posted:Supposedly it was originally going to summon ferrets (which makes just as much sense) and minotaurs would come out of Dark Maze, but then I guess R&D had a rough weekend and now we have minotaurs who really dig world fusion. Remember, Homelands didn't have "R&D" as much as it had "two guys from the Wizards of the Coast customer service team who decided to make a Magic set."
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The more I think about it, the less concerned I am by Quickling. U may get to dodge some removal, but if you can keep the deck clear it's dead. And it's not fantastic with Master of Waves unless you don't mind parting with any tokens you have.
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I wonder what sweeper effects will look like once RTR rotates out. How many Standard environments haven't had a Wrath at 4 mana?
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Attorney at Funk posted:I wonder what sweeper effects will look like once RTR rotates out. How many Standard environments haven't had a Wrath at 4 mana? You're assuming there isn't one in either M15 or Khans. Wouldn't be surprised in the least to see Day of Judgment pop back up in either.
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Attorney at Funk posted:I wonder what sweeper effects will look like once RTR rotates out. How many Standard environments haven't had a Wrath at 4 mana? Lor-Alara had its best wrath at 3WW (hallowed burial), IIRC.
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Random future prediction: The best thing going for Quickling is the fact that it's an evasive 2/2 for two that can be spat out after a wrath, provided you either have a second Quickling or a critter that leaves things behind as it dies.
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Attorney at Funk posted:I wonder what sweeper effects will look like once RTR rotates out. How many Standard environments haven't had a Wrath at 4 mana? VVV Right you are, Ken! revengeanceful fucked around with this message at 20:17 on May 23, 2014 |
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revengeanceful posted:Scars + Innistrad didn't have a 4-mana Wrath. It was all Delver all the time. Day of Judgment was in M12.
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quote:Goblin Rabblemaster 2R This dude from the IGN video seems like a nice card for modern gobbos. it is another 3 drop which I don't know if the deck needs, but it does combo well with shared animosity.
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Bugsy posted:This dude from the IGN video seems like a nice card for modern gobbos. it is another 3 drop which I don't know if the deck needs, but it does combo well with shared animosity. It's like, babby goblin piledriver. So yes, really good, I might want to start picking up pieces of Modern Goblins now. Is Aether Vial still a thing that runs?
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Yeah, that dude immediately caught my eye. It's a shittier Goblin Piledriver and a better Goblin Assault - not exactly high praise. I'm no Modern Goblins expert, though. Couldn't we have just had, like: quote:Goblin Titan - 2R Tribal micro-titans would be loving rad.
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Count Bleck posted:It's like, babby goblin piledriver. Babby Piledrive plus Goblin Assault on a stick.
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LordSaturn posted:Tribal micro-titans would be loving rad.
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Zoness posted:Lor-Alara had its best wrath at 3WW (hallowed burial), IIRC. Martial Coup and Fight to the Death are both pseudo-wrath effects; Coup is more expensive if it's wrathing but left behind 5 P/T worth of dudes (at least) while Fight was cheaper and instant speed but highly conditional.
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May 23, 2014 20:56
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Everblight posted:next card design challenge theme found Eh, I was thinking more in terms of transform cards if I win this round.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Martial Coup and Fight to the Death are both pseudo-wrath effects; Coup is more expensive if it's wrathing but left behind 5 P/T worth of dudes (at least) while Fight was cheaper and instant speed but highly conditional. Martial Coup costing 7 was basically unusable as a wrath since you would be casting Cruel Ultimatum at 7 mana in 5CC. Fight to the Death was garbage. Martial Coup saw a lot more use post Lor-Zen rotation along with Day of Judgment because you had cards like Everflowing Chalice to set it up. The control deck of the format essentially had no use for Martial Coup because it was winning with its own creatures anyway. My point was that the format had its best wrath at 5 CMC and some clasm effects at 3CMC in Volcanic Fallout and Firespout.
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Everblight posted:next card design challenge theme found Oh man this thread has been around since October?!?!?!
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