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I also hated IIIDS, and from what I've heard, they actually made it more frustrating to play than the NES version. No idea how they managed that.
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Motto posted:I also hated IIIDS, and from what I've heard, they actually made it more frustrating to play than the NES version. No idea how they managed that. Discourage you from switching jobs, reduce the enemies per encounter just to raise everything's HP to stupid levels, add exposition to an otherwise breezy, well-paced game.
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May 25, 2014 03:49
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:reduce the enemies per encounter just to raise everything's HP to stupid levels quote:add exposition to an otherwise breezy, well-paced game.
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May 25, 2014 03:59
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W.T. Fits posted:Crazy Chocobo from FFXIII-2
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May 25, 2014 04:00
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Butt Ghost posted:I want to know the vocalists' reactions to first reading these lyrics. "This shall be my magnum opus".
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May 25, 2014 04:02
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Butt Ghost posted:I want to know the vocalists' reactions to first reading these lyrics. They couldn't tell, and they didn't even wanna know?
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May 25, 2014 04:04
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Butt Ghost posted:I want to know the vocalists' reactions to first reading these lyrics.
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May 25, 2014 04:04
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The White Dragon posted:If this were the only change, I could live with that. They also gave enemies (bosses in particular) multiple turns per round without rebalancing the player at all. Yeah, I knew things weren't going to be good when I got to the boss after you get your party, but before you get jobs, got wiped, and had to reload outside the cave he was at the bottom of. I got past him, but I quit shortly after thanks to its other issues.
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May 25, 2014 04:07
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Butt Ghost posted:I want to know the vocalists' reactions to first reading these lyrics. Cha-ching
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May 25, 2014 04:30
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Butt Ghost posted:I want to know the vocalists' reactions to first reading these lyrics. "Wasn't going to get a record deal anyways!"
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May 25, 2014 04:34
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The White Dragon posted:If this were the only change, I could live with that. They also gave enemies (bosses in particular) multiple turns per round without rebalancing the player at all. I had forgotten that, thanks. Guy made FF XI just as painful, if not more.
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May 25, 2014 04:53
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Really there are only 2 real bad points in FF3DS, the no save points in dungeons EVER (to be fair that was in the original as well, but the original was like 20 years old already when it came out and that poo poo was super outdated then), and then loving everything up with the class system (this is the big one, between penalizing you for switching classes and throwing the class balance in really weird dumb places, it was just...dumb). The actual buffing enemy HP to make up for less enemies and making bosses attack multiple times or whatever was fine, I(and other people I know) was able to beat it pretty easily without grinding or a guide or anything, so I don't think the difficulty was really an issue. A 2 hour long final dungeon with no save points was though, what the hell. I guess it did make Cloud of Darkness, a pretty easy final boss by most standards, a lot more intense then it ever needed to be because holy poo poo if i die to this stupid boss I lose 2 hours of my life.
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A bit late to the party but if we're talkin sweet jams the best FF Overworld theme by far has to be Crossing Those Hills. It's really amazingly chill and fits the exploring well.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:A bit late to the party but if we're talkin sweet jams the best FF Overworld theme by far has to be Crossing Those Hills. It's really amazingly chill and fits the exploring well. That song makes me slightly nauseous whenever I hear it. Absolutely no idea why, it's a brown-note thing.
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May 25, 2014 05:09
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Oxxidation posted:That song makes me slightly nauseous whenever I hear it. Absolutely no idea why, it's a brown-note thing. I am truly sorry for you.
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May 25, 2014 05:10
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I never did beat cloud of darkness in FF3DS, a part of me still feels empty to this day because of it
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goldjas posted:The actual buffing enemy HP to make up for less enemies and making bosses attack multiple times or whatever was fine, I(and other people I know) was able to beat it pretty easily without grinding or a guide or anything, so I don't think the difficulty was really an issue. Aside from, y'know, Doga and Unei, who could TPW you if their AI decided to doublecast their most powerful spells at you. Well, most bosses had an unlucky gently caress you, it wasn't just them. FF3DS is a living testament to awful design decisions.
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Facepalm Ranger posted:I never did beat cloud of darkness in FF3DS, a part of me still feels empty to this day because of it My little brother unplugged my memory card when I was in the middle of saving my FFIV Hard-Type game. I was in the core of the moon after having beaten all the secret bosses. No jury in the world would have convicted me.
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Facepalm Ranger posted:I never did beat cloud of darkness in FF3DS, a part of me still feels empty to this day because of it "Replay" the NES game?
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Facepalm Ranger posted:I never did beat cloud of darkness in FF3DS, a part of me still feels empty to this day because of it Facepalm Ranger posted:FF3DS BottledBodhisvata posted:I am truly sorry for you. Ditto.
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May 25, 2014 05:18
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Kanfy posted:The Man With the Machine Gun was totally Laguna's theme. Technically it's the alternative party's battle theme, and Uematsu choose not to compose proper FFVIII themes because he "found that the effect of character themes weren't as great as [...] in FF 6 and 7."  but then went on to compose themes for everyone in FFIXPaperhouse posted:Maria and Draco Je suis l’obscurité, je suis une femme de couleurs. Notre amour est plus brillant que le soleil émail diamant. 
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May 25, 2014 06:35
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BloodWulfe posted:Technically it's the alternative party's battle theme, and Uematsu choose not to compose proper FFVIII themes because he "found that the effect of character themes weren't as great as [...] in FF 6 and 7." I think he meant more, "Gee, the only characters who have any screen time are Squall and Rinoa so you probably wouldn't get to hear the songs for everyone else anyway."
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May 25, 2014 06:58
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What the hell is Uematsu even doing these days anyway? The last thing I remember him doing was Lost Odyssey's soundtrack, which is a game I actually did like, but after that as far as I know he basically fell off the face of the earth. Although honestly the current guy who's doing Final Fantasy's music now (I forget his name), is pretty legit, as we can see in songs like Blinded by the Light or Titan's theme in FFXIV.
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Uematsu's a freelancer, now, and he's currently working on Project Phoenix.
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The White Dragon posted:I think he meant more, "Gee, the only characters who have any screen time are Squall and Rinoa so you probably wouldn't get to hear the songs for everyone else anyway." Basically. Try to associate a track with Zell or Irvine, any track. It's impossible! They just appear and tag along without musical accompaniment. goldjas posted:What the hell is Uematsu even doing these days anyway? The last thing I remember him doing was Lost Odyssey's soundtrack, which is a game I actually did like, but after that as far as I know he basically fell off the face of the earth. Although honestly the current guy who's doing Final Fantasy's music now (I forget his name), is pretty legit, as we can see in songs like Blinded by the Light or Titan's theme in FFXIV. Not much that we've seen, but he's been consistently busy freelancing since leaving Square. He did some stuff for Mistwalker (Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey) in the late 2000s, and a ton of Japan-only stuff after that. The Black Mages disbanded in 2010, which is the last "big" thing I can associate with his name. He shows up and performs at Distant Worlds concerts every once in a while for what it's worth, and I believe he's working on that violinist-turned-game-developers JRPG.
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He also did the soundtrack for The Last Story, but I couldn't tell you whether it was good or not since I only ever got it to run the title screen at 40fps. His post-Black Mages group, Earthbound Papas, did one album and mostly just makes appearances at FF concerts these days.
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The White Dragon posted:He also did the soundtrack for The Last Story, but I couldn't tell you whether it was good or not since I only ever got it to run the title screen at 40fps. I totally forgot about that, but trying to recall it now I only really remember the theme, which is pleasant. He also released one album titled Dancing Dad (no joke) after The Black Mages disbanded that was really good. e: oh you edited that in. anyways, it came out pretty recently (late 2013) so he's still doing stuff, and a second earthbound papas album seems pretty reasonable to expect BloodWulfe fucked around with this message at 07:24 on May 25, 2014 |
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I didn't even know about that one, thanks! Dancing Dad isn't being sold anywhere convenient like Amazon, is it? Time to brush off my old Japanese, I guess.
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I'd just like to point out that Dancing Dad is the best album name. IIRC it was supposed to be Dancing Mad but Square didn't allow him to use it.
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The best overworld theme is Searching for Friends, and the second best is A New World. Everyone else is fighting for third. 
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I think we can draw the conclusion that every map theme is the best map theme in the series.
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Kanfy posted:I'd just like to point out that Dancing Dad is the best album name. IIRC it was supposed to be Dancing Mad but Square didn't allow him to use it. Yes and yes. If memory serves from an old OSV article, at a festival last year he announced "I totally wanted to name it Dancing Mad, but a 'certain company' told me I couldn't," and thus Dancing Dad was born. I definitely remember that he wanted to compose entirely original tracks, but opted not to because it would sell way worse. I may be paraphrasing a bit there, but it's a practical [and accurate] point. Kind of a bummer actually.  There's no legit online release (and I don't know if it's kosher to post direct VGM junk in games anymore) but it exists and is, in fact, a cool album.
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BloodWulfe posted:There's no legit online release (and I don't know if it's kosher to post direct VGM junk in games anymore) but it exists and is, in fact, a cool album. It's kosher. Heck, LPs regularly post links to game songs.
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BloodWulfe posted:Basically. Try to associate a track with Zell or Irvine, any track. It's impossible! They just appear and tag along without musical accompaniment. Most composers don't really work for a company fulltime these days it seems like. Makes way more sense to freelance the work out to a guy rather than pay him a yearly salary when he's probably not working year round. I also didn't know The Black Mages broke up and he made a new band, need to check that out if I can find a way to listen to it online. Edit: Basically I'm asking for a way to listen to it online
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Edit: Basically I'm asking for a way to listen to it online Look up the The Earthbound Papas.
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Fuckin' a, are we talking about music again FFXIV has kinda won me way over. It hits the Uematsu notes and stylings now and then, but does its own thing too. Like the Thanalan theme. Also, here that is being performed by one cool dude. The main city themes are kind of funny because they're so blatantly influenced by film scores. Like Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, and Pirates of the Caribbean meets How to Train Your Dragon, I'm pretty sure Titan's theme has been posted here too, but for all two of you who don't know by now, the fight does something really neat where each phase is accompanied by a separate piece, each building intensity from the previous until the last one, where growly vocals + tribal chanting kicks in. Here's all of 'em, with song titles/times marked in the video description (plus bonus footage of MMO gameplay which, as always, tends to look like a lot of chaos unless you've actually played it) And there's the 'decisive battle' theme, "Torn from the Heavens", which accompanies a few select story fights and some world bosses, using a lot of recurring riffs from FFXIV's score plus the prelude. The White Dragon posted:One Winged Angel actually has vocals on-disc, but they've been crunched down so they sound like they're midi. Bells, frogs, big cherries, jinglebells, magic cheese, SEPHIROF Mazed fucked around with this message at 12:10 on May 25, 2014 |
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Mazed posted:Fuckin' a, are we talking about music again FFXII's music is the best Star Wars music.
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Facepalm Ranger posted:FFXII's music is the best Star Wars music. Remember that part at the beginning when Balthier shoots a hadouken at a TIE Fighter??
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The White Dragon posted:He also did the soundtrack for The Last Story, but I couldn't tell you whether it was good or not since I only ever got it to run the title screen at 40fps. His post-Black Mages group, Earthbound Papas, did one album and mostly just makes appearances at FF concerts these days. Last Story has some pretty good stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti-7FDUCc80 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBBHF5wou94 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QXRjvKnM1w
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Remember that part at the beginning when Balthier shoots a hadouken at a TIE Fighter?? It was Basch, and it was a Kamehameha.
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