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Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
I doubt it helped much that CF cards already existed and were about the same size without the flimsyness that comes with disks.

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Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



WebDog posted:

Also to add a damning blow, research proved there was no actual difference in sound quality between a SA-CD, DVD-A and a regular CD. In fact in order to fit all channels into a disc the sampling rate had to be dropped from 192khz (in stereo) to 92khz.
One: I'd argue that actual 5.1 sound, with discrete channels, mixed properly is in and of itself a sound quality upgrade over stereo. Two: a sampling rate of ~96kHz is over twice that of an audio cd, so mentioning those numbers offers no indication that the sound quality was only on par with audio cd. Three: the numbers aren't relevant to SACD because its sampling rate is in a whole different order of magnitude to begin with.

Why don't you just mention that audio engineers (or anyone else) can't pick out the difference in a double blind test for either format. That's a lot more to the point. The material can still be of a better quality (theoretically mostly potential for extended dynamic range) that may start to matter when digital postprocessing is applied during a later remix or something. Though that doesn't make it superior as a playback medium.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Talking about double blind testing is an quick :banme: on most audiophile forums. The people who've spent 50 grand on their stereo really don't want to learn that their ruby-plated speaker standoffs and handwoven pure-silver power cables are just snake oil.

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Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

I actually knew an audiophile type once.

He was mid 40's, made a very respectable income ($100-125k I'd say).

He still lived with his parents, drove their car to and from work, and ate their food

All he had to his name:

- A super old Lamborghini junker that required being pushed halfway down the street to get started, if at all. I got to drive in it once, it was as fast as a scared cat, but it was like sitting in a shaky metal coffin that smelled like high grade gasoline

- Some sort of super expensive audiophile stereo setup, he tried to explain it to me once and I just sort of glazed over after 5 minutes. I think the left and right front speakers alone cost upwards of $50,000


To further the stereotype, him and his brother loved model trains. They would do the scenery and people, painting each one individually. And then somewhere in the midst they'd have a tiny little Hitler, painted with care and precision. Seig Heil'ing for all to see. :hitler:

Oh he also had s .44 magnum he slept with under his pillow.


This all in urban Toronto mind you

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Don't we have an audiophile mock thread? I'd find it, but Search is broken and :effort:

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Yep, it's in IYG. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3166333

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

TinTower posted:

Don't we have an audiophile mock thread? I'd find it, but Search is broken and :effort:

Perhaps, I seem to remember reading about someone accidentally cutting open then thousand dollar stereo cable to discover it was metal shavings and copper

Maybe it should be merged with the schadenfreude thread

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



There was one thread from ages ago showing how Monster were caught red-handed sabotaging comparison displays in stores. Monster cables were HDMI and the 'generic' was actually composite.

I think it was that thread or a link to an audiophile thread elsewhere, but there was one guy adamant that $500 3.5mm stereo cables made a noticeable difference coming from his mid-range macbook to "audiophile" speakers that he had. There was a 10+ page derail is the thread he posted consisting equal parts laughter, support and fake advice (to make him spend more money).

Give me 10 minutes at work and I can make a cable that looks $500 worth, costs maybe $10, and double blind testing won't reveal a winner.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Not sure if it's been done yet but

Trunk mounted CD changers



My first car ever had one, a '96 or '98 Ford Contour

I think I swapped CD's all of 2 times, just make sure you REALLY like whatever you put in the change :arghfist:

After that the 2nd car I owned was a Mercury Mystique, which I think had the cd changer down inside the centre console.

Might have my makes/models/years backwards, even though they were pretty well the same car

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
Page 1, and it delivers!


I'd forgotten the coathangers vs monster cable, wrapping stuff in $6000 paper and some magic CD-pen.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
On that subject; does Bang & Olufsen count? I know they just closed their store in my city, guess the arrival of the Apple store meant the gig was up...oh drat, quote isn't edit!

Seems they're still going, just focusing on making very very pretty devices which keep up with the times.

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Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Do these things count as 'technology'?

Gaming glasses



I see the occasional twitch personality using them, MLG types

Seems like something that once one person starts wearing them, everyone thinks you need a pair to be a contender

Same goes for player branded headsets and or mice, keyboards... whatever. You're getting a $50 device with a $100 name attached to it

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug
What in the world do those glasses even do beyond look stupid?

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
Apparently reduce eyestrain by presenting a warmer colour...which I suppose you could do by adjusting the colour temp on your monitor.

I suppose the Pistol Mouse is another in the hall of fame for stupid PC gamer accessories.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

ToxicSlurpee posted:

What in the world do those glasses even do beyond look stupid?

According to one of the companies

"ENGINEERED TO ELIMINATE EYE STRAIN
while increasing contrast, comfort and focus for anyone
using a computer, gaming console or simply coding the next big thing."


Oh, this part is good too

"We are wired to a media-rich, networked world of infinite possibility. Visually connected to computers, tablets, phones and games – peering into an abyss of high-energy visible [HEV] blue light for hours can disrupt your entire system; your eyes, neck and back, circadian rhythms and overall health. Computer Vision Syndrome [CVS] has become a common problem for our digital generation.
Nearly 70 percent of U.S. adults experience digital eye strain as a result of increasing use of digital devices. Cumulative exposure to HEV light can contribute to vision problems such as cataracts and age-related macular degeneration."

Basically you have eye, neck, or back problems? Buy these glasses... NERD!

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Comparing B&O to Apple is pretty relevant since they are basically the Apple of the audio world. It's quality stuff that's attractively designed and tends to Just Work, but it's not audiophile gear.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

Humphreys posted:

Give me 10 minutes at work and I can make a cable that looks $500 worth
Unless it somehow stops looking like a friggin' audio cable, no. You can't. :v:

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

WebDog posted:

I suppose the Pistol Mouse is another in the hall of fame for stupid PC gamer accessories.


It looks stupid, but it's actually quite useful for people with rotator cuff damage. You can get normal looking vertical mice for that purpose.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Sappo569 posted:

Do these things count as 'technology'?

Gaming glasses



I see the occasional twitch personality using them, MLG types

Seems like something that once one person starts wearing them, everyone thinks you need a pair to be a contender

Same goes for player branded headsets and or mice, keyboards... whatever. You're getting a $50 device with a $100 name attached to it

There is (according to my optometrist) some new evidence that the blue-loaded spectrum on monitors may be not great for your eyes and may accelerate normal damage. He also said that it'll take another couple decades to have enough people who have spent most of their life with the things to really tell if it's a bunch of poo poo or not.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Shugojin posted:

There is (according to my optometrist) some new evidence that the blue-loaded spectrum on monitors may be not great for your eyes and may accelerate normal damage. He also said that it'll take another couple decades to have enough people who have spent most of their life with the things to really tell if it's a bunch of poo poo or not.

Aye, but a $5 pair of tinted glasses from wal-mart would do the same job no?

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Yeah you can accomplish it fairly easily without the price you'll have to pay from the people really trying to sell it. There's of course a coating for your prescription glasses that costs a bunch. I didn't bother with that coating obviously, just some anti-scratch and anti-glare stuff.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Shugojin posted:

There is (according to my optometrist) some new evidence that the blue-loaded spectrum on monitors may be not great for your eyes and may accelerate normal damage. He also said that it'll take another couple decades to have enough people who have spent most of their life with the things to really tell if it's a bunch of poo poo or not.
The biggest problem with spending lots of time in front of a monitor is fatigue from long period of short distance focus. Which is why if you work in IT or otherwise spend a lot of time in front of a computer you should really invest in a pair of computer glasses that shift your relaxed focus point to ~60cm.

Which ironically is basically what those gaming glasses are, except they also have a $100 fancy logo on them.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

We need to brain storm some ideas for bilking internet nerds out of their hard earned bitcoins

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Sappo569 posted:

We need to brain storm some ideas for bilking internet nerds out of their hard earned bitcoins
http://butwithbitcoins.com/

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



I swear to god that f.lux automatically adjusting color temperature of your monitor actually does something to ease you into going to sleep vs. constant daylight blue keeping you up at night.

Is free though.

Actual damage to your eyes? gently caress if I know, but it sounds pretty unlikely.

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




Flipperwaldt posted:

I swear to god that f.lux automatically adjusting color temperature of your monitor actually does something to ease you into going to sleep vs. constant daylight blue keeping you up at night.

Is free though.

Actual damage to your eyes? gently caress if I know, but it sounds pretty unlikely.

I spend way too much time on the PC and my optometrist hasn't mentioned any damage. My myopia has been stable for years, and outside of fatigue after long hours I can't really report any further effects. f.lux really is great though, it really improved that fatigue.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
I've been playing with this thing since it was first started, and it still cracks me up every time. :allears:

quote:

Introducing an amateur dried strawberry documentary

...but with bitcoins!

DarthBlingBling
Apr 19, 2004

These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box
Here's more ridiculous pro PC gaming equipment: the Killer NIC



Think it was some $300 network card that could in theory shave a ms or 2 off your latency.

I mean it's got a loving blade on the card so it must be good.

EDIT: Seems it was basically a micro linux computer that dealt with network operations leaving your CPU to produce more frame per second!

Reviewers pointed out that the only people likely to see such gains were low end PC users; the complete opposite demographic they tried to target

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Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


I remember the first time I heard about GAMING NICs and my friends and I were like uhhhhh what the poo poo, you could literally buy a better video card or better CPU for the same drat money.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Speaking of wastes of money, maybe one of you can tell me this - building a new house and the choice of cat5e vs cat6. The installer wants an extra $500 for cat6, does it even matter?

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Shugojin posted:

I remember the first time I heard about GAMING NICs and my friends and I were like uhhhhh what the poo poo, you could literally buy a better video card or better CPU for the same drat money.

I was watching someone streaming Watch Dogs, yesterday (which isn't technically released yet)

And his stream title was something like: Watch Dogs! 1080p QUAD Titans, 60fps

For those not in the know, the Titan video card goes for around $1,000 a pop, and he has 4 of them in his computer.

Also 1 of them would be enough to run anything thrown at it, let alone 2 of them. 4 would be the same as taking $2,000 and just stuffing it right up your rear end

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

DarthBlingBling posted:

Seems it was basically a micro linux computer that dealt with network operations leaving your CPU to produce more frame per second!

The surprising part is that they went to the expense of using actual snake in their snake oil.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

GreenNight posted:

Speaking of wastes of money, maybe one of you can tell me this - building a new house and the choice of cat5e vs cat6. The installer wants an extra $500 for cat6, does it even matter?
For a home network, not really.

He's still trying to fleece you by charging more for Cat6 though since the difference in cost for the actual cable is negligible.

Collateral Damage has a new favorite as of 15:20 on May 25, 2014

DarthBlingBling
Apr 19, 2004

These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

- CMDR Bald Man In A Box

Sappo569 posted:

I was watching someone streaming Watch Dogs, yesterday (which isn't technically released yet)

And his stream title was something like: Watch Dogs! 1080p QUAD Titans, 60fps

For those not in the know, the Titan video card goes for around $1,000 a pop, and he has 4 of them in his computer.

Also 1 of them would be enough to run anything thrown at it, let alone 2 of them. 4 would be the same as taking $2,000 and just stuffing it right up your rear end

NM: he's probably just fishing for viewers

DarthBlingBling has a new favorite as of 15:39 on May 25, 2014

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011

Sham bam bamina! posted:

I've been playing with this thing since it was first started, and it still cracks me up every time. :allears:

:wtc: posted:

What about the finest butt fan fiction
... but with bitcoins!

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

cowtown posted:

Given the thread that we're in, I'll assume you want to connect old Macs together and therefore I recommend Farallon PhoneNet:



Supporting a blistering theoretical maximum of 230 kbit/s, it can co-exist with your telephone wiring so long as you only have one line, since it uses the two wires that are unused with a single-line setup.

as long as you don't lose the loving terminators :argh:

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Collateral Damage posted:

He's still trying to fleece you by charging more for Cat6 though since the difference in cost for the actual cable is negligible.
Seconding this. How much is he charging for how many pulls and total length?

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

GWBBQ posted:

How much is he charging for how many pulls and total length?

:wiggle:

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

GWBBQ posted:

Seconding this. How much is he charging for how many pulls and total length?

I'm building around a 1800 sq foot house, and to put in cat5e with a 12 port punch down block with 1 ethernet port to each bedroom is currently $500. Having ethernet run to behind where the TV is going as well.

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Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

atomicthumbs posted:

as long as you don't lose the loving terminators :argh:

Just keep the PhoneNet and SCSI terminators in the same bag. One stop shop for terminating! :black101:

Now we get to hear from people that were tormented by SCSI chain management.

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